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Aug 19 - Here’s why Jeffrey Epstein surrounded himself with scientists
 

 
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The list of confidants and friends who were fêted by the late financier and alleged s*x trafficker Jeffrey Epstein included a number of prominent scientists. Among the eye-popping names that appeared on the list: the late cosmologist Stephen Hawking, Nobel-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould, physicist Frank Wilczek, neurologist Oliver Sacks, and geneticist George M. Church.

Wealth and power often beget one other, but they are not synonymous; moreover, those with one quite often crave the other. And so the wealthy financier Epstein sought to feel more powerful by surrounding himself with those whom he thought of as influential, whether politicians (like Bill Clinton), artists (like Matt Groening) or even prominent scientists. Unsurprisingly given the s*x trafficking charges Epstein faced at the end of his life, many of his a*sociates have been scrambling to downplay their a*sociations with him.

That Epstein was interested in cavorting with scientists does not bode well for the sciences at large — mainly, what it says about the culture of scientists is dangerous and antithetical to the process of science.

The term “star system” refers to a Hollywood phenomenon of the 1930s onwards, whereby studios both exploited and nurtured the celebrity of their actors. This was a change from the late nineteenth century, when starring actors were often not even credited in films.

The idea behind the star system is that consumers will go to see a movie not because they know it is well-acted, but because they follow the career of a specific actor or exhibit a fondness for them. In turn, the star system cultivates the image and appeal of these actors off-screen. Thus, the qualifications for working as an actor in the star system are not necessarily that one is a good actor; one merely needs to be attached to this celebrity PR apparatus.

Nowadays, the star system in Hollywood is so normalized that few of us see this strange system as an aberration. But if you compare it to any other industry, it makes no sense: when you’re hiring for a position, would you not choose the best candidate for the job, rather than a famous one who may not be particularly good at their job, but whom many people know by name due to a relentless celebrity news cycle?

And yet this is the modern norm in Hollywood: once an actor gains the imprimatur of “fame,” they become a marketable celebrity, sought-after to appear in big-budget films. An excellent sketch artist might demo her talents and get hired as a portraitist on the spot; but an excellent actor who isn’t famous can’t merely go down to Disney studios and get a leading role in the next Marvel film. It doesn’t work that way.

But the sciences — ideally — should. That’s because the main notion behind the academy is that it is a meritocracy: all scientists’ hypotheses should be weighed the same, and those that withstand repeated testing should be the ones that we keep around. Hence, Charles Darwin is a household name, but few know of Georg Ernst Stahl, promoter of the long-discredited phlogiston theory of chemistry.


“Overall, the star system is seen as a rarefied phenomenon applying to the academic rich and famous, separate from the normal and more staid careers and practices of work-a-day academics,” Jeffrey J. Williams wrote in the Minnesota Review in a 2011 issue dedicated to the topic of the star system in academia. Williams notes that the star system’s arrival was “seen as a popular cultural phenomenon imported to the academic sphere… criticized as a foreign or specious measure imposed on scholarly work.” He adds:

Most extremely, it is viewed as evidence of venal influences encroaching on the presumably purer academic realm, and condemned as one further sign of the decline of the academy and contemporary intellectuals therein.

Epstein, thus, was attracted to these specific scientists because of their star power: the media industry’s star system concept had leaked into the scientific academy.


That is not to say that the scientists Epstein invited to his house were “bad” scientists in any way: merely that they had attained a kind of celebrity status, and celebrity has the nasty side effect of reducing other people’s ability to criticize you. We saw this play out with Donald Trump in the public sphere in a severe way in the 2016 election: Trump is wealthy, and famous, and therefore successful and good, many rationalized. His celebrity status outshined the ability to think critically about his political qualities — not for all of us, but a significant portion of the American electorate was seduced to some degree by his celebrity. Think of celebrity as a sort of halo that surrounds someone — and the religious metaphor is apt, I think, because both religiosity and celebrity imply a degree of worship.

It is precisely that worship that will damn our ability as a civilization to progress scientifically. Hence, that the star system exists within the sciences bodes poorly for all of us. It means that bad or failed ideas might linger for longer than they should, because they have the imprimatur of fame — not a testable or scientifically rigorous condition if there ever were one. And it means that good scientists doing good science might miss promotions or recognition by virtue of not being stars, while middling scientists who have attained stardom might experience the inverse.

The point is, the star system is antithetical to the sciences — as it is to the academy as a whole. Jeffrey Epstein lived in a decrepit vortex of celebrity and power, taking scientists under his reign because of their celebrity. His a*sociation with them is tainting, but it speaks to how celebrity can distorts one’s perception.


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 1 month ago '14        #2
Ivorypillars  16 heat pts16
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Read somewhere dude had some weird underground lab on his property
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 1 month ago '15        #3
PolygonMafia  4 heat pts4
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Favorite take on this : The entire Epstein saga was a freemasonic ritual called Making Manifest that which is Hidden, in preparation for the dawning or the Age of Horus.

To be honest I’m not big in conspiracy, but this one is intriguing. We have verified evidence of a procurer of young children for the bizarre and extreme tastes of the ultra weird and wealthy — and it’s gonna drift away into obscurity. Same with Jimmy Saville and some of those other grand pedo schemes concerning the upper-crust of society.


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 1 month ago '16        #4
301216baller 
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i hope i become part of the 1% so i can really see whats going on
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 1 month ago '13        #5
North!!!  456 heat pts456
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 301216baller said
i hope i become part of the 1% so i can really see whats going on
Think to be in it gotta make like 450-500k
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 1 month ago '05        #6
Tha Boss  65 heat pts65
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 North!!! said
Think to be in it gotta make like 450-500k
sh*t I’m about 14 months away
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 1 month ago '16        #7
301216baller 
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 North!!! said
Think to be in it gotta make like 450-500k
thats honestly doable Americans are simple lol they choose the easy route..the harder something is the easier it is the less competition
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 1 month ago '15        #8
TheTrollPole  3 heat pts3
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 North!!! said
Think to be in it gotta make like 450-500k
Shiiiiit I'm 300K Plus Up So Far This Year

I'll let ya'll know what the other side is like at the end of the year
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 1 month ago '17        #9
Killaboy  18 heat pts18
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 301216baller said
i hope i become part of the 1% so i can really see whats going on
You really wanna know breh? You know they ain't just gonna be like hey watch me molest this kid then I'm going to skin him and make some leather loafers if you wanna come to the tailor!

Nah that's some incremental sh*t and you know they gonna have you participating and sh*t before you get put on. Like some gang initiation type sh*t. fu*k all that I'm good over here. 500k the cutoff for never having a peaceful nights rest ever again I'm donating every cent I make over 450k to friends family and charity just so I never come into contact with these creep a*s mothafu*kaz
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 1 month ago '16        #10
Boogie1790  9 heat pts9
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Article is basically saying that science is becoming rigged too but it does it in a round about way.
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 1 month ago '18        #11
Oswaldgatesjr  29 heat pts29
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 301216baller said
i hope i become part of the 1% so i can really see whats going on

U sure about that?
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 1 month ago '05        #12
Muggz  17 heat pts17
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all the mutha fu*kas above just openly admitted they want to be in a pedophile group like epstein....
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 1 month ago '19        #13
16z 
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 North!!! said
Think to be in it gotta make like 450-500k
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think it’s a little higher than that. That’s like saying every entertainer is a apart of the 1%, somebody is cutting their checks
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 1 month ago '04        #14
xbossxplayax 
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Oh for sure. Sensationalism is what the sheep want. The term popular science for example...
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 1 month ago '09        #15
ImAMonster  461 heat pts461
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 PolygonMafia said
Favorite take on this : The entire Epstein saga was a freemasonic ritual called Making Manifest that which is Hidden, in preparation for the dawning or the Age of Horus.

To be honest I’m not big in conspiracy, but this one is intriguing. We have verified evidence of a procurer of young children for the bizarre and extreme tastes of the ultra weird and wealthy — and it’s gonna drift away into obscurity. Same with Jimmy Saville and some of those other grand pedo schemes concerning the upper-crust of society.
We're all blinded by race issues and "social injustice." While these people get away with whatever they want to do. We f*ght each other so they can live like they want. Ridiculous.
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 1 month ago '18        #16
BrooklynDamien  5 heat pts5
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n*ggas asking for lanks to the Illuminati.
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 1 month ago '16        #17
kamal1978 
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That Neil deGrasse Tyson n*gga looks like a pedo to me

When he get caught in the future y'all better remember I called it first lool
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 1 month ago '16        #18
MrNobody  1 heat pts1
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But if you compare it to any other industry, it makes no sense: when you’re hiring for a position, would you not choose the best candidate for the job, rather than a famous one who may not be particularly good at their job, but whom many people know by name due to a relentless celebrity news cycle?




what?

y'all gotta stop thinkin ppl get famous by accident. there is a demand and that person fills it.

examine the demand, not the person who fills it. i enjoy a certain artist's music that a lot of ppl hate, because every time i'm forced to listen to the radio, i hear a sea of music i can't stand.

then that artist comes on and it's at least listenable even if its not perfect.

there's so much nonsense out there. how can u think certain ppl are just a fluke?

like i don't think michael b jordan is a good actor based off the one role i've seen him in (bp), but does that mean his existence at that point is due to some conspiracy?

i never watched the wire a day in my life. maybe that perspective led to me not liking him, but if u like that show, and see dude graduate from there to BP, why would i be upset at you enjoying his career?

who am i to tell you who's good at their job or not in something as subjective as the entertainment industry?

i like watching stars go thru stages and take new roles that change with their identity throughout time. if it creates a compelling commentary to whats going on in the world today from my general perspective, u damn right im gonna see the next denzel or donald glover flick.

now i def think weird things go on, but don't let the conspiracies freeze you up. its not just happening in hollywood. it's happening at your job. u say to yourself, "i don't care what these ppl think of me," so its easy to ignore the conspiracy from your own perspective.

then u go home and point fingers.

a lot of these ppl in many industries dont have scruples, but don't tell me these guys who work their a*s off have no talent. u just big hating at that point. u don't really care about what's going on up there. u just mad that it's not u thats there.

there is a system that develops stars complete with some shady ritualistic process, im sure of it. but some turn out to be hollywood stars while others end up being pr0n stars.

turn on one and then the other, and tell me there's not a discernible difference between these ppl and their professions.
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 1 month ago '17        #19
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The round about way he set up his properties was slick.

Each house was owned by a different company of which he was a shareholder of 10,000 shares. I'm sure he was the only shareholder but maintained less than 50% with the rest belonging to a trust.

All 4 of the 5 of the companies are named after trees. Nautilus Inc. is the only one thats not.
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 1 month ago '15        #20
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 Killaboy said
You really wanna know breh? You know they ain't just gonna be like hey watch me molest this kid then I'm going to skin him and make some leather loafers if you wanna come to the tailor!

Nah that's some incremental sh*t and you know they gonna have you participating and sh*t before you get put on. Like some gang initiation type sh*t. fu*k all that I'm good over here. 500k the cutoff for never having a peaceful nights rest ever again I'm donating every cent I make over 450k to friends family and charity just so I never come into contact with these creep a*s mothafu*kaz
You know what's funny I always thought I needed millions to be content, but once I crossed the 6 figure mark, being honest sh*t was different then, long as my bills are always covered I realized lot of things we think we need we really don't, like at 100K I didn't feel any financial stress, at 300k...nothing at all. So a n*gga don't gotta be a multimillionaire...I'm just going to do it cause I can. One thing that is an issue though when you start making more money, crazy how many people find clever ways to spend it for you. Mo money mo problems


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 1 month ago '09        #21
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A lot of BX is not so bright.
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 Muggz said
all the mutha fu*kas above just openly admitted they want to be in a pedophile group like epstein....

 1 month ago '16        #23
Ill800  12 heat pts12
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Wow I had to read multiple paragraphs just for garbage raw story to slip trumps name in with Epstein for the100th time

What a garbage sourdeof I formation you shill for @

That article was terrible


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 1 month ago '14        #24
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 Boogie1790 said
Article is basically saying that science is becoming rigged too but it does it in a round about way.
Is it that far fetched though? Imagine the top tier of society financially speaking pushing the boundaries of science covertly

Meanwhile science at the ground level progresses moderately in certain directions
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 ImAMonster said
We're all blinded by race issues and "social injustice." While these people get away with whatever they want to do. We f*ght each other so they can live like they want. Ridiculous.
You're dumb if you think social Injustice isn't an issue and part of the reason they're able to move the way they do without any repercussions. The s*x trafficking and pedophilia accusations are a social justice issue.
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