''Truth About Hip Hop'' Dvd Says Jay-z And Other Artists Worship The Devil

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 05-14-2005, 09:13 AM         #21
MiK 
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about that 5% thing y'all goin on about. I think itss something to do with The Nation Of Islam (the fake muslims. Farrakhan is the leader of The Nation Of Islam). I read somwehere that a high percentage of people are mentally "deaf, dumb and blind" and the intelligent ones have to learn some long list of rules thing to keep peace mentally and you instantly become a 5 percenter.
 05-14-2005, 10:20 AM         #22
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 Nyse03 said:
This dude just seems a lil too obsessed wit gettin props for my blood.
hahahah
 05-14-2005, 08:46 PM         #23
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The Godz Among Us
BY KEVIN BRITTON



Busta Rhymes is one of a number of Hip Hop artists using Islamic references in socially-conscious songs.

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As long as you got mentally dead people/Who are living in a mental death/Meaning living in a mental grave/You need somebody to dig that grave up and bring them back to life ...


-- Prince Rakeem (The Ryzarector), "12 Jewels"

There are Hip-Hop godz walking among us. And by incorporating messages inspired by Islam within their lyrics, they're on a mission to resurrect the masses from the stupor that has consumed us since Hip Hop left the streets of uptown for the boardrooms of downtown.

Blues, R&B, Jazz and other genres of popular music often borrow from spiritual traditions to underscore the pleasure and pain of life. Hip Hop is no different in this respect. Yet, while rappers draped in platinum and diamond crucifix medallions have become the norm, artists who embrace the teachings of Islam are often at the forefront of the positive/political Hip-Hop movement.

Perhaps the most visible (and least understood) representation of Islam within Hip-Hop culture is that of the Nation of Gods and Earths (more commonly known as the 5 Percent Nation), an offshoot of the Nation of Islam founded in Harlem, circa 1963. Over the last 10 years, Hip-Hop artists such as Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Brand Nubian, Gang Starr and even Neo-Soul songstress Erykah Badu have included hints of 5 Percent philosophy in their songs. (It is critical to note that while many scholars and adherents of orthodox Islam reject the notion that the 5 Percenters practice true Islam, the impact of the 5PN's interpretation of Islam on Hip-Hop culture cannot be denied.)

The 5 Percenter belief system is based upon a complex series of philosophical lessons that describe the socio-spiritual hierarchy of the western world. The gods (men) and earths (women) of the 5PN teach that 85 percent of the population are the deaf, dumb, blind and spiritually dead masses led like sheep by the 10 percent, who represent the corporate elite. The remaining 5 percent are the poor, righteous teachers whose purpose is to enlighten the masses by "dropping science" about knowledge of self, history, culture and religion.

Watched MTV lately? Before you dismiss the theory as a crash course in Conspiratorial History 101, consider the abysmal state of entertainment and popular culture as well as the corporate interests that drive what we see and hear daily. Suddenly, the oversimplified statistics offered by the 5PN begin to sound much more plausible.

The union between Hip-Hop culture and Islamic doctrine (orthodox or otherwise) was bound to happen. Just over 10 years after the 5PN was formed in Harlem, a Bronx-bred, ex-gang member, Afrika Bambaata, would organize the Universal Zulu Nation, merging Hip-Hop culture with community outreach and social activism. Bam is often quoted as citing the teachings of Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey as the foundation for the Zulu Nation's operating philosophy which contains hints of Afro-Islamic cosmology and eastern spiritual tradition. Because early participants and members of the Zulu Nation claimed allegiance to the 5PN, their expressions and beliefs would eventually work their way into the lyrics of more socially conscious Hip-Hop songs of the '80s and '90s (like the classic Islamic call to prayer at the intro of Brand Nubian's 1993 hit "Allah U Akbar").

Ali Asadullah, in an article appearing on Beliefnet.com, adds, "Islam has long played a prominent role in Hip Hop. (By) the '90s ... references to the 5 Percent Nation of Islam were popping up on albums by the Wu Tang Clan and Busta Rhymes. Especially when the topic is social justice, an Islamic understanding has been a hallmark of socially-conscious Hip Hop."

The concept of spiritual, cultural or political awakening has always been a central theme within conscious Hip Hop. Recognizing a spiritual void in music and culture, 5 Percenters routinely chastise "85ers" for abandoning responsible lyrical content for the ubiquitous commercialism present in Hip-Hop music and culture. Despite their proclivity for aestheticism, even members of the 5PN are not immune to the trappings of an industry defined less by what you think than by how you live. A recent VH-1 documentary finds former Wu Tang Clansman/5 Percenter Ol' Dirty Bastard shopping for a mansion in upstate New York while complaining to the mothers of his 13 children about his lack of money. Certainly, not what we'd expect from a "civilized god."

Even in Hip Hop, it all comes down to the eternal battle between good and evil. And while most Hip Hop continues its descent into the fiery abyss, the gods and earths of the 5 Percent Nation are poised to rescue us -- the 85ers -- from the nescience that defines today's entertainment industry. Clearly, members of the 5 Percent Nation of Islam are not the sole keepers of the solution for all that ails Hip-Hop culture. But a little knowledge goes a long way.



THATS SOME INFO FOR YALL a.ssES. LOL
 05-14-2005, 08:53 PM         #24
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OMFG, I cannot believe this many hip hop fans haven't heard of 5 percenters before. I'm as white as you can get and a Christian, and I've known about them for a while now. And I really don't see what they have to do with the devil at all.
 05-14-2005, 09:11 PM         #25
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its music...
 05-14-2005, 09:25 PM         #26
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the 5% refer to a small percent of people who were slaves that were smart enough to not follow christianity when the slave masters were trying to convert the slaves... its a belief system... not worshipping the devil... basically under this belief anybody/everybody is god... hence the God MC
 05-14-2005, 09:28 PM         #27
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fu*k off virgin boy
 05-15-2005, 03:40 PM         #28
DaVirginiaBoy 
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shut the hell up strider i'm jus tryin to tell people what i've seen and i'm tryin to find out if its true so if you aint got no info shut the fu*k up.
 05-15-2005, 03:45 PM         #29
topcontender 
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 Nyse03 said:
This dude just seems a lil too obsessed wit gettin props for my blood.
forreal, homeboy's fiendin for that eGreen.....chill homie, you'll get it when you deserve it......stop beggin
 11 years ago '05        #30
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You know i went to that christian site n read pretty extensively n i can agree from an unbiased stand-point to some extent but completely disagree n argue from another.

If u flip the script on him n get a bit deeper hes glorifying himself as a "god" regardless if its holy or unholy hes trying to judge n speak out on the hip hop community n almost trying to speak for Rappers.
In all actuality his site is nothing more than a collection of a.ssumptions n misconceptions which may only be half right if hes lucky.

On one hand hes putting down the image of hip hop which i can co-sign n say well okay in the negative sense you have a point.
But on the other hand he's going to far by a.ssuming that' That is a Constant n daily mental intent or mind state of these rappers to be negative.
and this is the problem i have with religious figures
Their all pretending to be angels when their only servants

Our human life here on Earth as "children of God" I believe is to go through Trial n tribulation, we are not jesus nor did God give us the talent to perform real life miracles so to compare the Jesus n his abillities to those of a regular Human being is ludacris

I mean we all know god is forgiving but i think lines are crossed when u know that, n perform sin on the backbone of thinking it won't matter n u will be forgivin, because then your concious of the evil your doing n then still doing it anyway because you feel you'll be redeemed. that is where i think people are fooling themselves.

But then if "hip hop is from hell" where does death metal sit?
now is he just trying to exclusively protect black folks?
I mean he does mention that its affecting black and white youth so maybe not.
So he must just be bashing Hip hop in general.
death metal is by far worse than hip hop in "representing Evil" or being labeled "Secular Music" but i guess he won't even touch that since some black folks see white folks as being devils anyway. <---"Ooooooh"

I hope you guys get what im saying.

Im more concerned with why our children are being rebelious or self indulged. its deeper than hip hop or any kind of entertainment it starts with the injusticeness of our Government.
It roots back to Cops being power crazy and stereotypical
It goes back to the whole school system environment where fashion n Acceptance is more important than equality and education
it goes back to the generation before the children which might have bred unqualified parents.
I believe your parents actions and way of life are far more influential than some entertainer.

Seems to me hes trying to create his own "Star" by feeding this shallow bullsh*t to the faithful followers of the christian community n profiting off of hip hop by selling dvds that degrade it n mispercieve it.

You wanna really know what really seperates n breaks people down as a whole?
Religion
How can u believe in ONE god n restrain him to ONE personal belief-(religion)

God is One For ALL!!!!!!

One love - One Heart - One Destiny
 05-15-2005, 05:28 PM         #31
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this fool who made this post said 'uppin' and 'props' way too many fu*kin times
 11 years ago '04        #32
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Damn, mad props for the info!! I've heard of the 5%'s once before but never really thought twice of them. I didn't realize Busta was part of the group. Also I did a google on the group and came up with this website that had a lot of interesting info on the group, .
This I especially found interesting:
What We Teach
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1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to
understanding man's relationship to the universe.

4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self
sufficient as a people.

6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm,
Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.


8. That our children are our link to the future and they
must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of
the nation.
Now I'm not black (Arab/Persian) nor am I religious at all but number seven still caught my attention.


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 05-16-2005, 12:55 PM         #33
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sh*t sounds kool is this dvd out now and whats it called might have to check this
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