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 2 months ago '18        #1
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African Presence In America Before Columbus
 

 
A lot of cats from my last thread "Africa Before Europeans," were saying that there were Africans in the Americas that lived amongst the Native Americans before the European invaders/ settlers arrived. A few references of the Olmec were mentioned in a few posts, about these huge stone statues of heads with African facial features located in Mexico. Now I have heard of blacks mixing with the natives, as I have native bloodlines on both sides of my family, but never of Africans sailing over to the Americas, on their own, before the Europeans. After doing a little research I am a bit shocked. There has been a ton of research on the subject but it is kept in the dark. It makes you wonder why this type of history is not told. One reason could be because it is utterly false or on the other hand it is completely true. Use your own mind to form conclusions for yourself. Think critically that's all.


Bonus Video:
Dr. Ivan Van Sertima | Afrikan Presence in Early America


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101 comments for "African Presence In America Before Columbus"

 2 months ago '15        #3
2Cold 608 heat pts608
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glad you’re doing your googles bro


but them dudes in the other thread were od annoying.. talking about black americans were different from african american because black americans immigrated to america before slavery.. it doesnt matter if you forget your ancestors history.. your ancestors are still from africa




ancient people used to travel the seas and oceans alot and used to have trading routes everywhere so the history we are taught is not really accurate.. its been re-written many times


wikipedia aint always the best resource but here is some history of


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 2 months ago '15        #4
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I pretty sure I read from you something on the Olmec heads. And if I remember right you are educated on this subject and provided details, sources, ect that I found interesting.


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 2 months ago '18        #5
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That last thread went side ways pretty damn quick as I am sure this one will too lol fu*k it
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 2 months ago '15        #6
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They got a fu*kin elephant god in south America.
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 2 months ago '15        #7
DamianDragunov 
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So I’ve hung around plenty of Native Americans that were handed down knowledge on how to hunt, fish, butcher meat, smoke cuts of elk, track animals, trap animals. I’m just curious if anybody that believes this theory has been taught this by their ancestors like the Native Americans? Of course you’ll have some that were never taught it and didn’t grow up on the reservation... Is there black folks that grew up on reservations?
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 2 months ago '16        #8
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 DamianDragunov said
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I pretty sure I read from you something on the Olmec heads. And if I remember right you are educated on this subject and provided details, sources, ect that I found interesting.
There isn't research that's been kept in the dark because there isn't any hard evidence to it.

There isn't a single credentialed scholar or archaeologists that supports an African origin or influence on the Olmecs.

All of this traces back to Van Sertima and his shoddy scholarship on the subject, such as referencing outdated scholarship, misrepresenting his sources, and arguing through a*sertion without presenting hard evidence to support his arguments.

Literally nothing found at Olmec sites has ever tied back to Africa and nothing has been ever found in Africa that has provenance in Pre-Columbian America.


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 2 months ago '18        #9
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Saving all this for tonight
Gonna watch and rewatch later
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 2 months ago '18        #10
Realestatemane 
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Truth is spreading during info age.... it's been hidden on purpose....
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 2 months ago '06        #11
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Word to Dr Sebi! he talked about Olmecs and those of african ancestry sharing the same diets and other stuff. He learned from a mexican guy first.



My kids are Blaxican so im glad to recreate an ancient great race #BrownExcellence
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 2 months ago '18        #12
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 Aztlan said
There isn't research that's been kept in the dark because there isn't any hard evidence to it.

There isn't a single credentialed scholar or archaeologists that supports an African origin or influence on the Olmecs.

All of this traces back to Van Sertima and his shoddy scholarship on the subject, such as referencing outdated scholarship, misrepresenting his sources, and arguing through a*sertion without presenting hard evidence to support his arguments.

Literally nothing found at Olmec sites has ever tied back to Africa and nothing has been ever found in Africa that has provenance in Pre-Columbian America.
From what I saw in his lecture, Van Sertima, seemed to have gathered strong evidence of an African presence before Europeans. It seems as though a lot of his findings are dismissed by scholars because it goes against the narrative of Africans being a simple, unintelligent, and primitive man. It seems as if they want the history of Africans erased and our ancestors were only slaves. Our history is much more than that of a slaves, we have a deep and rich history as I have said before. I have learned so much in the last few days doing simple google searches about African history and I hope this encourages others to do so as well. Peace and love
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 2 months ago '18        #13
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 Aztlan said
There isn't research that's been kept in the dark because there isn't any hard evidence to it.

There isn't a single credentialed scholar or archaeologists that supports an African origin or influence on the Olmecs.

All of this traces back to Van Sertima and his shoddy scholarship on the subject, such as referencing outdated scholarship, misrepresenting his sources, and arguing through a*sertion without presenting hard evidence to support his arguments.

Literally nothing found at Olmec sites has ever tied back to Africa and nothing has been ever found in Africa that has provenance in Pre-Columbian America.
So the fact that there are pyramids in South America as well isn't enough, or the FACT that trade winds will carry a boat from Africa towards South America with no need for navigation? So that giant head that you see doesn't resemble a black man? You know how long ago these heads were created? Long before we started to intermingle to where someone from South America would have African features.

How about the symbols that the Olmecs used being similar to a language spoken in West Africa.

Use your common sense and STOP being in denial.
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 2 months ago '15        #14
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I hate this type of stuff isn't taught I school. Like Africans being the 1st humans and the traveling to America thru Russia, etc. They talk evolution but skip that part about Africans. Then these DNA commercials be like, "I just found out I was 8% Italian" but never say, "I just found out I was 8% Nigerian" when showing these white people
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 2 months ago '15        #15
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All this sh*t is a theory, people can't even play the telephone game without fu*king up
But y'all believe these stories are accurate from over 500 years ago

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 2 months ago '16        #16
Aztlan 84 heat pts84
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 Dyslexicredaer0 said
From what I saw in his lecture, Van Sertima, seemed to have gathered strong evidence of an African presence before Europeans. It seems as though a lot of his findings are dismissed by scholars because it goes against the narrative of Africans being a simple, unintelligent, and primitive man. It seems as if they want the history of Africans erased and our ancestors were only slaves. Our history is much more than that of a slaves, we have a deep and rich history as I have said before. I have learned so much in the last few days doing simple google searches about African history and I hope this encourages others to do so as well. Peace and love
Useless and irrelevant rhetoric.
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 2 months ago '16        #17
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 Reazonero said
So the fact that there are pyramids in South America as well isn't enough, or the FACT that trade winds will carry a boat from Africa towards South America with no need for navigation? So that giant head that you see doesn't resemble a black man? You know how long ago these heads were created? Long before we started to intermingle to where someone from South America would have African features.

How about the symbols that the Olmecs used being similar to a language spoken in West Africa.

Use your common sense and STOP being in denial.
I see your kicking that pseudoscience as well.

Those sculptures look like the natives that are still in the region. African people don't have a monopoly on thick lips and wide nostrils. Plus, the epicanthic eyelids wouldn't fit your argument. There isn't a single genetic study done on Indigenous Americans or on the corpses of ancient Indigenous civilizations that shows a significant African presence.

You can find evidence all throughout the Americas of pyramid-building civilizations literally developing the technology on their own.

If pyramid building was imported, you wouldn't see evidence of Indigenous Americans literally building over previous structures and improving on their own techniques.


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 2 months ago '05        #18
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RIP to Dr. Ivan Van Sertima


Learned alot when I was on my search in college in 2010 from him and "They Came Before Columbus"

 2 months ago '17        #19
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I always wondered why spanish is the english origin of black...negra...negro
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 2 months ago '16        #20
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 AmillionMo said
I hate this type of stuff isn't taught I school. Like Africans being the 1st humans and the traveling to America thru Russia, etc. They talk evolution but skip that part about Africans. Then these DNA commercials be like, "I just found out I was 8% Italian" but never say, "I just found out I was 8% Nigerian" when showing these white people
Those were Siberian hunter gatherers, not Africans.

Genetic studies on Naia, the oldest skeleton ever found in the Americas had genetic studies done on it that linked it to Siberian hunter gatherers.
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 2 months ago '15        #21
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The same reason they defiled all the statues @.

Same reason they say Columbus 'discovered' America. Same reason Egyptians are shown as white. Same reason they f*ght that fact man was started in Africa. Same reason almost every colonized area ended up like America, k*lling the native men and raping the women to create lighter seeds.

If you know you know.
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 2 months ago '16        #22
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 Drewsmit said
I always wondered why spanish is the english origin of black...negra...negro
Because the Portuguese were the first to use it to describe African peoples and the Spanish simply followed suit. Then the English followed.
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 2 months ago '17        #23
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i need to see actual evidence these ships exist

why go to S, Americia when there was trade in Europe and Asia?

just sounds like sad afrocentirc mumbo jumbo
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 lucifershammer said
i need to see actual evidence these ships exist

why go to S, Americia when there was trade in Europe and Asia?

just sounds like sad afrocentirc mumbo jumbo
Its very possible that Africans were sailing to the Americas prior to Columbus, but it is not possible that it occured at the scale and for the duration that these guys are claiming. There simply isn't enough trace evidence to show that any African definitely made the voyage, so you can't make this gigantic claim just because it's possible to make the voyage.

 2 months ago '16        #25
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There was a youtube video I watched a year or so ago about Africans sailing to America prior to Columbus. They were allegedly doing trade with the Natives. I dont believe any of them stayed. I do believe they were running through those Native v*ginas. Let me see if I can track it down.

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