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 5 months ago '14        #1
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Nardy Global 1 heat pts
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Spotify royalties breakdown (personal experience)
 

 
Ok so a couple months back I released a remix with a popular EDM producer, Sound Remedy. I reached out to him on twitter to check out my single I was promoting and he sent me a message saying he wanted to remix it.

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I wasn’t familiar with him or his work at the time, but upon further review I came across some of his work. He has some pretty big remixes.

visit this link https://soundcloud.com/so .. dys-soundcloud

So I sent him the vocal track and he remixed it.



visit this link https://itunes.apple.com/ .. soundcloud.com




We put it out Sept. 3, 2018 and since then it’s gotten 46.7k streams on Spotify, 27k on Soundcloud, and more on Apple music, but the stats haven’t come in yet. We both use Distrokid as our distributor which gives you the option to create teams. We created a team for the release and they split the royalties 50/50 for us. This makes it easy when it comes to the business and no one has to worry about somebody trying to get over.

Now to the money!!!

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Spotify pays*about $0.006 to $0.0084 per stream. We split the royalties 50/50.

46,700 streams X $0.006 = $280.20 / 2 = $140.10 (minimum royalty payout)

46,700 streams X $0.0084 = $392.28 / 2 = $196.14 (maximum royalty payout)

Keep in mind Spotify releases sales reports to the distributor at a 2 - 3 month delay. For instance, The royalties for the month of September won’t be issued to Distrokid until December. That means the amount of streams I had by the end of September is the portion of money Spotify will pay me in December. We may have a total of 46.7K streams but lets say at the end of September we had 15K streams. That’s how much Spotify will pay me for the September royalties. Just some game I wanted to share.

This is my new record I’m promoting.

visit this link http://hyperurl.co/nard.ifudare

**UPDATE**

The numbers came in for my first royalty payment and this is what they're looking like:

Soundcloud: Sound Remedy received 317,194 total plays on Soundcloud in September. Of those plays 13,622 were for the I Hurt Remix

They paid him $446.86 for Septembers plays.

(13,622 plays / 317,194 total plays) x $446.86 / 2 = $9.59

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Spotify: We got 33,180 total streams for the month of September and they paid us $132.72

33,180 streams x 0.004 Spotify pay rate = $132.72 / 2 = $66.36

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Spotify is still low balling indie artists and the reports that they pay 0.006 - 0.0084 is straight lies. They pay 0.004 for most of us and when I looked on the Hit sales chart for major artist they were getting 0.006. I've yet to see anyone get 0.0084 per stream, major or indie.

There wasn't much else movement. Spotify is clearly where we made the bulk of our royalties.

This got me thinking and I started a group chat with fans, artists, producers, bloggers, playlist curators, YouTubers, etc. The only requirement is you have to have a phone that can receive texts and you have to have a twitter account. Once a month I'll drop a single and post the link to the group chat. When the group receives the text they will engage with it within a 15 minute window. This plays into the algorithm of twitter which promotes content that gets engagement in a short amount of time.

My goal is to start with 100 people in the group chat and expand. We all help each other get engagement and if it's a single release we all spend the $1 to get the person sales up. Like @lilh305 mentioned earlier, "they (industry people) have "pods" which are IG/Twitter DM groups with 100s or 1000s of members to interact with their ig/fb/Twitter post the moment it goes live so they meet the algorithm threshold and goes viral to the rest of their followers."

Why don't we take this model and duplicate it. We can work out the particulars together but if you want to join, PM me and I'll add you to the list.


Last edited by Nardy Global; 12-17-2018 at 02:28 PM..
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 5 months ago '13        #2
mikejuheard 44 heat pts44
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Let me get a $1

Rich man
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 5 months ago '14        #3
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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I aint got it bruh
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 5 months ago '04        #4
bmack940 7 heat pts
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Appreciate the insight bro. How much did it cost you in money and time to create the track?
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 5 months ago '11        #5
X_WunderKind_X 910 heat pts910
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dope thread fam, I always wondered how that sh*t works from first hand experience
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 5 months ago '17        #6
Lonny Breaux 550 heat pts550
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maybe artists should have their own streaming services kinda like Blogspot and YouTube channels more money that way?
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 5 months ago '14        #7
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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 bmack940 said
Appreciate the insight bro. How much did it cost you in money and time to create the track?
Got you! I produced the track and engineered it myself so no money spent on that end. As far as time I'd say it was a concentrated effort of 2 weeks from recording to mixing.
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 5 months ago '16        #8
postemupndunkit 6 heat pts
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Y'all need to revolt

getting a sixth of a penny fam?

this is why i quit music

that sh*t is for the fu*king birds

joe budden was right.

yall need to sit down together and just stop creating for six months and let them n*ggas feel it
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 5 months ago '14        #9
Gio Trappertoni 9 heat pts
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Is you nard of nard&b?
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 5 months ago '18        #10
Blaffy 132 heat pts132
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Playing it now
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 5 months ago '14        #11
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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 Lonny Breaux said
maybe artists should have their own streaming services kinda like Blogspot and YouTube channels more money that way?
I'm with ownership but something like building your own streaming company would take time to establish. At the beginning of the year I decided I wasn't going to release music on any platform other than YouTube and Soundcloud. If someone wanted to download they could deal with me directly and I would send them a download. What I found out is that it wasn't convenient for the listener and they weren't willing to stray from the norm of how they receive their music. I ended up compromising by putting my music on the major platforms but building my email list as well.
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 5 months ago '16        #12
Papi 614 heat pts614
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 postemupndunkit said
Y'all need to revolt

getting a sixth of a penny fam?

this is why i quit music

that sh*t is for the fu*king birds

joe budden was right.

yall need to sit down together and just stop creating for six months and let them n*ggas feel it
The only problem is that it will always be the next 17 year old kid that’s next and labels can promote to the masses

Rihanna lowkey been doing that but we live in a era that we realllllllly don’t care


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 5 months ago '14        #13
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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 postemupndunkit said
Y'all need to revolt

getting a sixth of a penny fam?

this is why i quit music

that sh*t is for the fu*king birds

joe budden was right.

yall need to sit down together and just stop creating for six months and let them n*ggas feel it
I hear you. Payouts could be better, but instead of complaining take the opportunity to build a brand. If you're on any social platform and you post a pic, video, song, whatever, all of it is intellectual property, but only music seems to be getting paid for it. Not disregarding youtube videos but one would have to be a partner with YouTube before they draw a payment. No one questions why Social networks don't pay royalties to their users when they sell their company for billions. It was the users activity that made the company valuable, but they relinquish their right to royalties the moment they sign up. They do it because that's where the people are. You can't have a problem with a Spotify / Apple music and at the same time have no problem with Instagram / Facebook.
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 5 months ago '14        #14
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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 Gio Trappertoni said
Is you nard of nard&b?
Nah fam
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 5 months ago '14        #15
Nardy Global 1 heat pts OP
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 Blaffy said
Playing it now
Good Looking!
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 5 months ago '11        #16
bosslife11 26 heat pts26
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So you get .0084 per stream. I'm curious to what is considered a stream. Listening to a track for more than a minute? What if you download the song to your phone, are they still tracking those streams? Do you get more money If they download the album?

I really feel bad for artists because there's no way out unless you all ban together. The tech companies have figured out how to screw you. The talent can't even make money off their talent until 10 other people eat off it.

And now within your own genre, people are complaining about albums being longer than 10 songs. It's simple economics, why would I put 10 songs or less on my album when I'm paid per stream?
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 5 months ago '18        #17
DrizzyStan06 47 heat pts47
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BSB records streaming app coming soon.
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 5 months ago '11        #18
GrindPOWER$ 465 heat pts465
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congrats box breh
i hope to see the same with my artist too..CHRIS COKE CLEAN...not even gonna promo on boxden if you guys get a chance he's on all platforms.

thank you
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 5 months ago '14        #19
Gio Trappertoni 9 heat pts
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 DrizzyStan06 said
BSB records streaming app coming soon.
bsb the brand u can believe in

Imagine a troy ave and drake collab
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 5 months ago '05        #20
qajuan 2 heat pts
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Playing now, it costs nothing for one candle to light another.
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 5 months ago '08        #21
Kewop Decam 92 heat pts92
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 Lonny Breaux said
maybe artists should have their own streaming services kinda like Blogspot and YouTube channels more money that way?
Brings up an interesting point, but I feel the music industry would crush anyone trying to get in on this. You'd probably only get independent folks and then people are soo like, "oh, it's not on Spotify? Pfff, fu*k that" and won't listen.
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 5 months ago '17        #22
Lonny Breaux 550 heat pts550
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 Nardy Global said
I'm with ownership but something like building your own streaming company would take time to establish. At the beginning of the year I decided I wasn't going to release music on any platform other than YouTube and Soundcloud. If someone wanted to download they could deal with me directly and I would send them a download. What I found out is that it wasn't convenient for the listener and they weren't willing to stray from the norm of how they receive their music. I ended up compromising by putting my music on the major platforms but building my email list as well.
nah fam that's not what I meant. just that with all of the tech savvy app creators these days, it shouldn't be a stretch to create a platform like that.

like for example Onlyfans for the instagram girls who do pr0n on the side. They completely own the channel, the owner takes a subscription fee monthly I suppose depending on how much revenue they pull as a percentage figure.

that's what soundcloud etc should have been. not saying that it's the only way, just that if people would want to support theur favourite artist in a bigger way that that coulf be a way to do it. granted there's a platform for it.

listen to spotify and tidal for the wide range of music, support your favourite artist on their own outlet.
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 5 months ago '05        #23
WCIB 123 heat pts123
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So essentially 1 million streams is about $5,000 to you...

Good insight
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 5 months ago '10        #24
kingblock 11 heat pts11
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n*ggas should just start creating their own apps to stream their sh*t....if they have a following
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 5 months ago '17        #25
My Back Hand 79 heat pts79
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prop and added to itunes.

Didn’t even listen.
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