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Sep 13 - Millions of Water Bottles Found in Puerto Rico 1 Year Later
 

 

The stockpile of bottled water stretches down an unused runway in Ceiba. Case after case, pallet piled upon pallet, blue tarps and plastic glinting in the sun.

The emergency supplies were brought in by FEMA in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, which smashed the island and left its residents without power, without roofs and without running water.

Federal officials commandeered the area in the far east of the island last fall as a staging ground, collecting the water and containers full of tarps to patch damaged and destroyed roofs in surrounding neighborhoods.

And there the supplies sat. And sat. Storm survivors were collecting spring water from the mountains for cooking and bathing, even with the threat of disease that brought.

And apparently, the supplies were just left there, lost perhaps in poor communication and collaboration.

FEMA handles getting the supplies to the state or commonwealth, who in turn handle distributing those items at a local level, said Jeff Byard, FEMA a.ssociate Administrator for Response and Recovery. "Obviously with Maria, we had not a supply issue, we had distribution issues," he said during a briefing about Hurricane Florence.
visit this link https://www.cnn.com/2018/ .. eir/index.html

Just more proof Puerto Rico failed at the local level.
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96 comments for "Sep 13 - Millions of Water Bottles Found in Puerto Rico 1 Year Later"

 2 months ago '14        #2
TheRiverStyx 14 heat pts14
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Is the new talking point changing to "Ok thousands of people did die...but it's their own fault."?
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 2 months ago '16        #3
Boogersugar 54 heat pts54
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Passing the buck to the highest degree. FEMA is responsible for coordinating the effort, they are the ones that have experience dealing with these issues and training to handle it. They're the experts. A mayor or governor is not likely to be an expert in storm preparedness or response and shouldn't be expected to be.

FEMA should've confirmed that's where they wanted the delivery, that they had a way to access and then distribute the supplies. They can't just drop supplies anywhere and say, "Welp, we did our job!" This administration refuses to take responsibility for anything it's absurd

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 2 months ago '07        #4
iswerve 169 heat pts169
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 TheRiverStyx said
Is the new talking point changing to "Ok thousands of people did die...but it's their own fault."?
u already see how they're blaming the victim in that dallas case..

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 2 months ago '17        #5
Naga Sadow 10 heat pts10
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 Boogersugar said


Passing the buck to the highest degree. FEMA is responsible for coordinating the effort, they are the ones that have experience dealing with these issues and training to handle it. They're the experts. A mayor or governor is not likely to be an expert in storm preparedness or response and shouldn't be expected to be.

FEMA should've confirmed that's where they wanted the delivery, that they had a way to access and then distribute the supplies. They can't just drop supplies anywhere and say, "Welp, we did our job!" This administration refuses to take responsibility for anything it's absurd
Maybe Trump needs to talk to the president of Puerto Rico about this.

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 2 months ago '16        #6
OWPE 73 heat pts73 OP
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 Boogersugar said


Passing the buck to the highest degree. FEMA is responsible for coordinating the effort, they are the ones that have experience dealing with these issues and training to handle it. They're the experts. A mayor or governor is not likely to be an expert in storm preparedness or response and shouldn't be expected to be.

FEMA should've confirmed that's where they wanted the delivery, that they had a way to access and then distribute the supplies. They can't just drop supplies anywhere and say, "Welp, we did our job!" This administration refuses to take responsibility for anything it's absurd
They coordinated just fine. It was the local government that didn't distribute the water where it was needed. USA army was even there helping clear roads and even transporting supplies.

People were in dire need of water after hurricane and Puerto Rico just let it go to waste. It's still sitting there.


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 2 months ago '11        #7
Sin 1731 heat pts1731
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@ do you have a more informative article that actually says fema passed or informed local officials

And apparently, the supplies were just left there, lost perhaps in poor communication and collaboration.

FEMA handles getting the supplies to the state or commonwealth, who in turn handle distributing those items at a local level, said Jeff Byard, FEMA a.ssociate Administrator for Response and Recovery. "Obviously with Maria, we had not a supply issue, we had distribution issues," he said during a briefing about Hurricane Florence.
Looks like fema has a distribution issue
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 2 months ago '11        #8
Sin 1731 heat pts1731
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 OWPE said
They coordinated just fine. It was the local government that didn't distribute the water where it was needed. USA army was even there helping clear roads and even transporting supplies.

People were in dire need of water after hurricane and Puerto Rico just let it go to waste. It's still sitting there.
Did you read your article? Fema took responsibility for not distributing

FEMA a.ssociate Administrator for Response and Recovery. "Obviously with Maria, we had not a supply issue, we had distribution issues,
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 2 months ago '18        #9
Gang Sht 549 heat pts549
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Lol at being America’s territory
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 2 months ago '16        #10
OWPE 73 heat pts73 OP
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 Sin said
Did you read your article? Fema took responsibility for not distributing
I read the article. You guys always claim that the Puerto Rican government was PERFECT. They didn't make any mistakes at all, and you put all the blame the federal government instead. Yet here is proof of wasted supplies that they Still didn't get to! They just left it there.

You have no explanation other than more excuses claiming it's the federal governments failt. The power grid in Puerto Rico is also their fault and not the federal government. There have been many articles about the debt Puerto Rico was in despite getting billions of dollars in support from the federal government.

Where did all that money go? They didn't use it to improve their island.....
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 2 months ago '16        #11
Boogersugar 54 heat pts54
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 OWPE said
They coordinated just fine. It was the local government that didn't distribute the water where it was needed. USA army was even there helping clear roads and even transporting supplies.

People were in dire need of water after hurricane and Puerto Rico just let it go to waste. It's still sitting there.
The army WAS there? They left? Why? They're much more equipped to access an unused airport strip than the local government which probably doesn't have all-terrain vehicles like the Army does. I'm sure PR would've welcomed the a.ssistance. Would've been nice if the Army engineers helped restore their electrical grid instead of leaving them without power for months which dramatically exacerbated the fatalities related to the storm.

You want people to believe that the local government could've easily distributed all these supplies despite the terrestrial difficultly which you'd have to be a stupid person to believe. PR has fewer than 4m people and it's not a wealthy commonwealth. They're poor and have had budget issues so leaving them to fend for themselves is irresponsible. We already know they didn't have the money to address this because Congress just passed a law to help them address it less than 2 years ago.

FEMA, on the other hand, has the money and the staff and the expertise. So does the Army! And the Coast Guard! All of these groups had able-bodied people with EXPERTISE dealing with natural disasters AND they have the special equipment needed to traverse tough terrain.

But it makes more sense to Trumpanzees like you to pile onto a governor or mayor managing 4m people or fewer like that's some incredible tax base and seat of power

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 2 months ago '16        #12
Boogersugar 54 heat pts54
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 Naga Sadow said
Maybe Trump needs to talk to the president of Puerto Rico about this.

Hey now, Trump is a stupid motherfu*ker but let's not go making things up



It was the US Virgin Islands that he didn't know was a US territory
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 2 months ago '16        #13
OWPE 73 heat pts73 OP
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 Boogersugar said
The army WAS there? They left? Why? They're much more equipped to access an unused airport strip than the local government which probably doesn't have all-terrain vehicles like the Army does. I'm sure PR would've welcomed the a.ssistance. Would've been nice if the Army engineers helped restore their electrical grid instead of leaving them without power for months which dramatically exacerbated the fatalities related to the storm.

You want people to believe that the local government could've easily distributed all these supplies despite the terrestrial difficultly which you'd have to be a stupid person to believe. PR has fewer than 4m people and it's not a wealthy commonwealth. They're poor and have had budget issues so leaving them to fend for themselves is irresponsible. We already know they didn't have the money to address this because Congress just passed a law to help them address it less than 2 years ago.

FEMA, on the other hand, has the money and the staff and the expertise. So does the Army! And the Coast Guard! All of these groups had able-bodied people with EXPERTISE dealing with natural disasters AND they have the special equipment needed to traverse tough terrain.

But it makes more sense to Trumpanzees like you to pile onto a governor or mayor managing 4m people or fewer like that's some incredible tax base and seat of power




Puerto Ricoís public debt has ballooned because of a failing economy and an inefficient government that has spent more than it has taken in for years, often borrowing to close the gap.


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Go ahead and google Puerto Rico 72 billion in debt. You gonna blame the federal government for that debt too?
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 2 months ago '16        #14
Boogersugar 54 heat pts54
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 OWPE said


Puerto Ricoís public debt has ballooned because of a failing economy and an inefficient government that has spent more than it has taken in for years, often borrowing to close the gap.


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Go ahead and google Puerto Rico 72 billion in debt. You gonna blame the federal government for that debt too?
No, dummy. The point is that the government KNOWS that PR doesn't have money and still left them to fend for themselves after dropping supplies in hard to access areas like abandoned runways. That is extremely negligent.
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 2 months ago '11        #15
Sin 1731 heat pts1731
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 OWPE said
I read the article. You guys always claim that the Puerto Rican government was PERFECT. They didn't make any mistakes at all, and you put all the blame the federal government instead. Yet here is proof of wasted supplies that they Still didn't get to! They just left it there.

You have no explanation other than more excuses claiming it's the federal governments failt. The power grid in Puerto Rico is also their fault and not the federal government. There have been many articles about the debt Puerto Rico was in despite getting billions of dollars in support from the federal government.

Where did all that money go? They didn't use it to improve their island.....

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What happened to trump infrastructure plan to make America great again
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 2 months ago '07        #16
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 2 months ago '04        #17
Fresh Beats 1 heat pts
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Send it back to the US. We're gonna need it with this hurricane about to hit.

 2 months ago '16        #18
Boogersugar 54 heat pts54
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 Fresh Beats said
Send it back to the US. We're gonna need it with this hurricane about to hit.
It would probably be cheaper to send new bottles of water to those areas. Transporting this water would be extremely expensive, water is heavy as fu*k.

 OWPE said
I read the article. You guys always claim that the Puerto Rican government was PERFECT. They didn't make any mistakes at all, and you put all the blame the federal government instead. Yet here is proof of wasted supplies that they Still didn't get to! They just left it there.

You have no explanation other than more excuses claiming it's the federal governments failt. The power grid in Puerto Rico is also their fault and not the federal government. There have been many articles about the debt Puerto Rico was in despite getting billions of dollars in support from the federal government.

Where did all that money go? They didn't use it to improve their island.....
You are fu*ked up in the head man. Even if there was malfeasance by PR's reps that led to that money being wasted... let's imagine that were true... does that mean the federal government should leave the citizens to die? Because the mayor or governor misspent funds several months prior, which citizens don't have a say in? They deserve to die because of their rep's decisions?

And it turns out those were excess water bottles anyway as @ helpfully pointed out. So this narrative you're trying to push is bunk anyway.
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 2 months ago '15        #19
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 OWPE said


Puerto Ricoís public debt has ballooned because of a failing economy and an inefficient government that has spent more than it has taken in for years, often borrowing to close the gap.


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Go ahead and google Puerto Rico 72 billion in debt. You gonna blame the federal government for that debt too?
Yes actually, Puerto Rico has to try to live up to being a state without the benefits you get for being one. You have us territories that must enact our federal laws even if they canít live up to it, such as our federal minimum wage
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 2 months ago '17        #20
Ymmot 8 heat pts
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 Naga Sadow said
Maybe Trump needs to talk to the president of Puerto Rico about this.

This will be trump supporters next talking point. They've already forgotten trump's blunder a year ago.
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 2 months ago '17        #21
Ymmot 8 heat pts
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Just more proof Puerto Rico failed at the local level.
And also more proof trump and fema failed too. Remember when trump tried to claim this a huge success for him and fema? What a joke.
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 2 months ago '15        #22
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Damn fema fu*ked up on all fronts. Regardless of government this is literally they one job. Even if something got lost they should of realized that water was never distributed.

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 I bleed GREEN said
@ coward a.ss was in this thread every two seconds until this post was made

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Didn't Katrina teach us anything about FEMA?
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