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Jul 9 - Here Are Six Reasons Why the Poor Are Much Better Off in Europe Than in the U.S.
 

 
Poverty can be much more painful in the U.S. than in European social democracies

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The name “Bernie Sanders” can inspire very different reactions in Germany, France or Sweden than it inspires in the U.S. While the Vermont senator and self-described “socialist” is considered hard-left or radical by Republicans and even by some neoliberal Democrats, Europeans tend to view him as simply a New Deal liberal rather than someone with genuinely Marxist ideas. And the Washington Monthly’s Gilad Edelman ponders just how far to the left Sanders and his supporters really are in the publication’s July/August issue and poses the question: are Sanders’ young supporters really just New Deal liberals?

One thing Sanders clearly has in common with many European politicians is the fact that he is extremely uncomfortable with countries having widespread poverty—and while he doesn’t necessarily believe poverty can be eliminated altogether, he favors programs that aggressively combat it. Unfortunately, the U.S. is moving in the opposite direction in the Donald Trump era, and the policies of the Trump administration and a Republican-controlled Congress are conducive to harming the poor rather than helping them.

Here are six reasons why poverty—although painful all over the developed world—can be much more painful in the U.S. than in the European social democracies that Sanders and his supporters admire.


1. Job Training

In Europe, there has been a heavy emphasis on education and job training; Germany, for example, is renowned for its apprenticeship programs. And according to Carl Melin of the Swedish think tank Futurion, Sweden’s system of retraining workers is “better than those in most countries.” But in the U.S., education can be cost-prohibitive. The U.S.’ poor simply can’t afford the educational programs they need to acquire new job skills, whereas in Germany or Sweden, the poor have easier access to job-training programs that will make their lives better.

2. Unions

The labor movement did a lot to expand the American middle class in the 1940s and 1950s, but in the Trump era, unionization rates are at historic lows: only 10.7% of the U.S. workforce is unionized, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But in Europe, unionization rates range from 67% in Sweden and 55% in Belgium to 37.3% in Italy—and union members are much less likely to be poor. As long as the U.S. continues embracing anti-union right-to-work laws, its working poor will be more likely to remain in poverty.

3. Health Care

Even with the gains of the Affordable Care Act of 2010—which President Trump and Republicans in Congress have fought to overturn—the U.S. is infamous for its medical bankruptcies and having millions of people without health insurance. Europe, however, has universal healthcare; so even the poorest Europeans can see a doctor when they need to. Until the U.S.’ brings about universal care health care, America’s poor will continue to be sicker and unhealthier than their European counterparts.

4. Taxes

When the Republican-crafted Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017—which lowered the U.S.’ corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 percent—was signed into law by President Trump, proponents of trickle-down economics argued that corporations would generously share the savings with employees. But according to economist Robert Reich, almost all the extra money has been going into stock buybacks instead of wage increases for employees. In other words, the tax cut does nothing for America’s poor or lower middle class—whereas in European countries, tax dollars are much more likely to go to social programs that help the poor. In Sweden, the top 15% of wage earners pay a marginal income tax rate of 56%, and those taxes fund education, job training and other things that help lift the poor out of poverty.

5. Incarceration

The U.S. incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than any other country in the world—and the private prison industry has been booming under President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The Prison/Industrial Complex has done a lot to promote poverty in the U.S.: poor Americans are likely to remain poor after facing incarceration and having a criminal record. But in Norway—a country Sanders and his supporters believes the U.S. should emulate—an emphasis on job training and rehabilitation for prisoners is making it less likely for them to become repeat offenders. In 2016, a study by the University of Bergen found that job training programs for Norwegian prisoners were making them 46% less likely to become repeat offenders.

6. Education

Education doesn’t have to mean attending a university and acquiring a college degree; trade schools that sharpen blue-collar job skills can also be an excellent educational tool. But in the U.S., education can carry a very high price tag—which is why so many millennials are buried in heavy student loan debt and why the poor don’t take more vocational courses. As long as America’s poor lack access to education, they are more likely to remain in poverty. Making education more accessible was one of the main themes of Sanders’ 2016 campaign. In Europe, quality education is more accessible, and that is one of the reasons why Europe now has greater upward mobility than the U.S.

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 4 months ago '04        #2
erickonasis 22 heat pts22
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 hitalik said
european countries are MUCH more liberal mostly because their populations are almost completely white. as soon as people of color start migrating and start making up a sizable portion of said populations, the majority of white people in said countries will all of a sudden become conservatives.

it’s the same thing that happened in america from the early 1900s to the 1980s when the majority of whites became conservatives.

white people love liberalism and it’s subsequent political policies UNTIL people of color start getting the same liberal benefits.

modern day conservativism is simply the result of white people by & large having unprovoked fear of dark skinned people.

if you break down conservative values/policies it become obvious they are mostly based on fear & paranoia.

conservatives (and all of its off shoots) = fascists & xenophobes

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In Sweden, the top 15% of wage earners pay a marginal income tax rate of 56%

Thats insane

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Raza cuts u beenpn bx making threads for the last 12 years and i just realized u get paid to make threads to like phantom nation. Dam i cant believe i missed that

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 hitalik said
european countries are MUCH more liberal mostly because their populations are almost completely white. as soon as people of color start migrating and start making up a sizable portion of said populations, the majority of white people in said countries will all of a sudden become conservatives.

it’s the same thing that happened in america from the early 1900s to the 1980s when the majority of whites became conservatives.

white people love liberalism and it’s subsequent political policies UNTIL people of color start getting the same liberal benefits.

modern day conservativism is simply the result of white people by & large having unprovoked fear of dark skinned people.

if you break down conservative values/policies it become obvious they are mostly based on fear & paranoia.

conservatives (and all of its off shoots) = fascists & xenophobes
You really think the entire world is against you and afraid of you at the same time life must be hard.

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 hitalik said
european countries are MUCH more liberal mostly because their populations are almost completely white. as soon as people of color start migrating and start making up a sizable portion of said populations, the majority of white people in said countries will all of a sudden become conservatives.

it’s the same thing that happened in america from the early 1900s to the 1980s when the majority of whites became conservatives.

white people love liberalism and it’s subsequent political policies UNTIL people of color start getting the same liberal benefits.

modern day conservativism is simply the result of white people by & large having unprovoked fear of dark skinned people.

if you break down conservative values/policies it become obvious they are mostly based on fear & paranoia.

conservatives (and all of its off shoots) = fascists & xenophobes
THIS

that's why Tiki worshipers will vote against their best interests as long as non whites get hurt in the process...

 4 months ago '04        #7
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 yolaboy said
THIS

that's why Tiki worshipers will vote against their best interests as long as non whites get hurt in the process...
Basically....

 4 months ago '04        #8
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 hitalik said
nope not the entire world. but i think it’s hilarious how you keep having to resort to extreme reaches or straw man arguments just to refute the points that I make....just further confirmation that i’m right.

and just to entertain your extreme reach of a statement, no i don’t think the whole world is against me, just a large portion of a certain type of people, you included.. my life is pretty great actually

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 dc3003 said
Raza cuts u beenpn bx making threads for the last 12 years and i just realized u get paid to make threads to like phantom nation. Dam i cant believe i missed that
Look, group home guy commented. And he said something retarded.

 4 months ago '04        #10
erickonasis 22 heat pts22
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 Ymmot said
Look, group home guy commented. And he said something retarded.
whats this group home thing about

 4 months ago '17        #11
Ymmot 8 heat pts
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 erickonasis said
whats this group home thing about
This kid definitely lives in a group home or something. He has some mental disabilities.

 4 months ago '04        #12
erickonasis 22 heat pts22
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 Ymmot said
This kid definitely lives in a group home or something. He has some mental disabilities.

 4 months ago '06        #13
imthatinfamous 40 heat pts40
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this is all jokes...bumms on the street in the U.S have Medicare...go to the ER on a super cold night and claim to have chest pains, when they dont...get some of the best care in the world, warm bed, a hot meal....will never see a bill

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 hitalik said
nope not the entire world. but i think it’s hilarious how you keep having to resort to extreme reaches or straw man arguments just to refute the points that I make....just further confirmation that i’m right.

and just to entertain your extreme reach of a statement, no i don’t think the whole world is against me, just a large portion of a certain type of people, you included.. my life is pretty great in spite of it actually
hilarious seeing your write about extreme reaches

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 imthatinfamous said
this is all jokes...bumms on the street in the U.S have Medicare...go to the ER on a super cold night and claim to have chest pains, when they dont...get some of the best care in the world, warm bed, a hot meal....will never see a bill
you have obviously never volunteered at a shelter...

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 yolaboy said
you have obviously never volunteered at a shelter...
many times...99% of the population are just individuals who want to be street people...they come in get a warm meal. if its winter they get a warm place to sleep. in the summer the leave after their meal. 1% of that population are truly people who need help. Single mothers, etc. The injustice in all that...is when someone like a single mother, who truly needs help, gets turned away because the shelter is full...full of people who been have been living the majority of their lives strung out on drugs and living on the streets the past 10+ years....its truly sad when you see the manager of the shelter giving directions to a person to another shelter 20minutes away and that person has no vehicle or means to get there

 4 months ago '16        #17
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 RAZAH CUTS said

1. Job Training
The U.S.’ poor simply can’t afford the educational programs they need to acquire new job skills, whereas in Germany or Sweden, the poor have easier access to job-training programs that will make their lives better.
This is bull sh*t. Who wrote this?

If you live in NJ, if you're unemployed, you can go to truck driving school free.

I went to truck driving school FREE. Company paid for it. Had to stay with the company for a year. Never saw a weekly paycheck less than $1050 in 6 years now.

So when people say they can't move up in life, the system is so against them, blah blah blah... you have REAL rejects with felonies, REAL as*holes and screwballs making 60k in their first year of trucking.

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 imthatinfamous said
many times...99% of the population are just individuals dealing with a mental illness
fixed that for ya...

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Take your broke a.ss the europe then op

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 erickonasis said
Do u think its cool to make fun of disabled people or something ? (Im not disabled) but it isnt cool

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ItAlY2BkLyN 240 heat pts240
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 hitalik said
nope not the entire world. but i think it’s hilarious how you keep having to resort to extreme reaches or straw man arguments just to refute the points that I make....just further confirmation that i’m right.

and just to entertain your extreme reach of a statement, no i don’t think the whole world is against me, just a large portion of a certain type of people, you included.. my life is pretty great in spite of it actually
I'm not against you playa. I just feel sorry that your go-to is to a.ssume that I (and a large portion of a certain type of people) are against you. It ain't as bad as you think. But glad you're enduring.

 4 months ago '04        #22
ItAlY2BkLyN 240 heat pts240
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 hitalik said
NO. it’s much worse than you know or care to acknowledge. the ONLY reason you disagree is because of the insecure thoughts that seep into your mind whenever this subject is brought up.

there's absolutely no logic that can lead anyone to believe that whitesupremacy isn’t one of the if not THE biggest threats to humanity in the world. it exists on various levels that you simply wouldn’t notice unless you honestly looked for them since you’re not the target.

but my existence isn’t dependent on white approval. i could give a damn whether you buy into it or not. there are plenty of white people alive today & historically who get it. you’re not one of those people.

I've done more to f!ght for equality than you know. I'm deeply familiar with the social constructs in place. I also know that there are FARRR more tolerant certain types of people than bigoted racists. But you choose to look for what you want in this world. All you've been taught is racism so how could you be expected to see anything else? I just hope that one day you can be proud of your accomplishments without even worrying white approval at all.

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 hitalik said
european countries are MUCH more liberal mostly because their populations are almost completely white. as soon as people of color start migrating and start making up a sizable portion of said populations, the majority of white people in said countries will all of a sudden become conservatives.

it’s the same thing that happened in america from the early 1900s to the 1980s when the majority of whites became conservatives.

white people love liberalism and it’s subsequent political policies UNTIL people of color start getting the same liberal benefits.

modern day conservativism is simply the result of white people by & large having unprovoked fear of dark skinned people.

if you break down conservative values/policies it become obvious they are mostly based on fear & paranoia.

conservatives (and all of its off shoots) = fascists & xenophobes

 4 months ago '17        #24
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Nah n*gga, I seen them homeless people in London and that sh*t was looking depressing as fu*k. Much, much worse than my state.

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 hitalik said
european countries are MUCH more liberal mostly because their populations are almost completely white. as soon as people of color start migrating and start making up a sizable portion of said populations, the majority of white people in said countries will all of a sudden become conservatives.

it’s the same thing that happened in america from the early 1900s to the 1980s when the majority of whites became conservatives.

white people love liberalism and it’s subsequent political policies UNTIL people of color start getting the same liberal benefits.

modern day conservativism is simply the result of white people by & large having unprovoked fear of dark skinned people.

if you break down conservative values/policies it become obvious they are mostly based on fear & paranoia.

conservatives (and all of its off shoots) = fascists & xenophobes
Eh, that's just humans in general.

Go into China, South Korea, Japan, India, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Somalia, Iran, Pakistan, pretty much anywhere and those sentiments are gonna be true. If anything, White countries are ahead of many because they'll actually let you immigrate to their country.

Humans are tribal creatures.

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