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Jun 13 - $466K a year to wash trucks? :iseeyou5:
 

 
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ON THE WATERFRONT, there’s a longshoreman on the books who washes trucks.

He gets paid $465,981 a year. To wash trucks.

Fired when his bosses discovered he wasn’t actually showing up when he claimed to be working, he nevertheless regained his job—after an arbitrator concluded it was not unusual in the industry for employees to be paid “without being expected to work all the hours for which they are being paid.”

The Port of New York Harbor is the busiest on the East Coast and the third largest in the nation. From the marine terminals in Port Newark and Port Elizabeth—where hulking gantry cranes that wait to load and unload ships from all over the world stand sentinel—to the terminals in Bayonne, Staten Island and Brooklyn, more than 6.7 million cargo containers came through the sprawling seaport last year. Ships carrying everything from food and clothes to furniture, machinery and coffee make port every day.

But labor costs here are the highest in the nation, making consumer goods more expensive and the port less competitive, officials say.

Part of the reason for those high labor costs, claim waterfront regulators and federal prosecutors, include $117 million in lucrative pay packages that go to more than 400 longshoremen in New Jersey and New York, some of whom are never, ever officially off the clock, every day of the year.

The top 100 dockworkers alone at the marine terminals on both sides of the river each get more than $300,000 a year, according to salary data obtained through public records requests by NJ Advance Media.

One makes $516,996, based on an hourly rate that pays him 24 hours a day, seven days a week, through a formula of straight time, overtime, double-time, as well as weekend and holiday pay. Another, who works as a timekeeper, is paid every hour that any union member is working. He received $513,382 last year.

The pay scales are all set in the dockworker union's collective bargaining agreement. But in March, longshoreman Paul Moe Sr., who made $493,029 a year, was sentenced to 2 years in federal prison for submitting false timesheets. While he was also paid for every hour of the day, prosecutors with the U.S. Attorney’s office in Newark said he was required to at least be physically at the job at least 40 hours a week.

Investigators who followed him testified that he was often seen fishing on his boat in Atlantic Highlands, at the movies, at home or on vacation in Florida or Aruba when his timesheets indicated he was at work.

When a dockworker prepared to testify against him, a not-so-subtle message was left for him. A plastic rat was placed on his front porch, federal prosecutors disclosed in court.

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Policing the waterfront
Earlier this year, New Jersey moved to k!ll the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, the bi-state enforcement agency created by New York and New Jersey more than 60 years ago to police much of what goes on at the port—including who gets to work on the docks. It was the Waterfront Commission that gathered the evidence in the case against Moe.

The state's Democratically controlled Legislature argued the agency was a relic of the past.

But two weeks ago, U.S. District Judge Susan Wigenton—citing the need to reform corrupt and discriminatory hiring practices in the port, and continued mob influence there—said “it is in the public interest for the commission to continue its investigatory and regulatory work.”

In court filings, the Waterfront Commission officials, who challenged New Jersey's action, said the need for oversight was hardly over. They said the International Longshoremen’s a.ssociation, the powerful labor union that holds sway over the port, “still exerts control over hiring in the port, that waterfront employers have been forced to hire those that the ILA wants hired, and that the prime positions on the waterfront are given to those individuals with connections to the mainly all-white union leadership.”

In an interview, Walter Arsenault, the commission’s executive director, charged that the union’s ranks are replete with high-paying no-show or low-show jobs. Many, he said, go to insiders, relatives and friends.

“Why do we have a port where special deals are made?” asked Arsenault, a former a.ssistant district attorney who once headed the Manhattan District Attorney’s elite special homicide unit. “That’s the question.”

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'That's not a lot of money today...'
ILA officials declined comment. But during a 2010 hearing on hiring practices at the marine terminals, Harold Daggett, now president of the union, defended the salaries paid to his members.

"I wish all the members earned more than $400,000," said Daggett. "Forget about $400,000. That's not a lot of money today. These guys work their a.sses off out there."

Daggett himself makes more than $400,000. As president of the national union, he is paid $523,566, according to filings with the Department of Labor. As president emeritus of Local 1804 in New Jersey, he is paid another $156,781, for a total $680,347.

Working on the docks, though, can indeed be a dangerous job. In 2015, Judy Jones, 49, of Newark, was struck and k!lled by a fellow longshoreman while he was moving shipping containers around the docks at the APM Port Elizabeth terminal along Newark Bay. Later found to be drunk while operating a top loader, Victor M. Belo, of North Arlington was sentenced to three years in prison earlier this year for second-degree manslaughter. Earline Brundage, 47, of Phillipsburg, died in February 2012 after being pinned between two shipping containers at the Port Newark Container Terminal.

Those earning in excess of $300,000, however, are not typically the ones working on the docks, said Arsenault.

The ILA, through its spokesman, referred questions about its contract and salaries to the New York Shipping a.ssociation, which represents the marine terminal operators, stevedores and shipping companies that operate in New York and New Jersey—who do the hiring of the longshoremen under a collective bargaining agreement with the union. The industry group is currently in extension talks with the union and John Nardi, the a.ssociation’s president, also declined comment, citing the ongoing labor negotiations.

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145 comments for "Jun 13 - $466K a year to wash trucks? :iseeyou5:"

 4 months ago '10        #2
datguyjr 2 heat pts
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How do I apply?

 4 months ago '15        #3
The Flyin Lion 155 heat pts155
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 datguyjr said
How do I apply?
Word I'm in a construction union and our pay comes out to $66/hr. I thought we were overPaid Jesus Christ

 4 months ago '08        #4
tdnupe3 11 heat pts11
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That's straight union and mafia action right there.

 4 months ago '11        #5
Sin 1674 heat pts1674 OP
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 The Flyin Lion said
Word I'm in a construction union and our pay comes out to $66/hr. I thought we were overPaid Jesus Christ
 datguyjr said
How do I apply?
Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, the bi-state enforcement agency created by New York and New Jersey more than 60 years ago to police much of what goes on at the port—including who gets to work on the docks.
you gotta know somebody

 4 months ago '08        #6
tdnupe3 11 heat pts11
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 The Flyin Lion said
Word I'm in a construction union and our pay comes out to $66/hr. I thought we were overPaid Jesus Christ
What part of the country, and which union. If you don't mind me asking. That's REALLY good, and much better than some of my friends in construction.

Even the HEAVY machine operators here aren't anywhere close to that type of pay scale. I think one of my boys makes around $35/hour, but that's not on every contract.

 4 months ago '16        #7
BossTonMA 16 heat pts16
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Sign me up.

 4 months ago '16        #8
BobbiHeadRagTop 31 heat pts31
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Bet

 4 months ago '15        #9
gaapplewood 
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Going to get on one day soon



Hard to get in, but good once you’re in

 4 months ago '11        #10
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 HughyBaby said
Damn I need ins
im thinking about hitting up the bars around the docks to make some new friends

 4 months ago '08        #11
tdnupe3 11 heat pts11
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 Sin said
im thinking about hitting up the bars around the docks to make some new friends
You just have to get in the union. I don't know what the dues are, or if you have to have so many years experience, but as you can see, it's worth it.

 4 months ago '14        #12
Aries 90 heat pts90
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 tdnupe3 said
You just have to get in the union. I don't know what the dues are, or if you have to have so many years experience, but as you can see, it's worth it.
Nah getting in the longshoreman union over here is like the hardest construction/labor union to get into...You got a better chance playing the lotto. They don't open up like the other unions at all... and as he said, you really gotta be family or close friends to get in.

 4 months ago '06        #13
jeffery225 1 heat pts
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Man, I have 2 college degrees, an a.ssociate degree, and I don't even make nowhere close to that amount. Geez, I'm going to have to make a move back home to NYC.

 4 months ago '17        #14
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Unions were created to safeguard Jobs for white workers, after American slaves were freed and begun looking for employment. I wonder what color the Longshoremen are.



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 4 months ago '12        #15
The Consultant 371 heat pts371
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Bruh

 4 months ago '08        #16
tdnupe3 11 heat pts11
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 Aries said
Nah getting in the longshoreman union over here is like the hardest construction/labor union to get into...You got a better chance playing the lotto. They don't open up like the other unions at all... and as he said, you really gotta be family or close friends to get in.
I can see why. With them having this type of hustle. You could have your family straight for GENERATIONS. Daddy gets son in the union, who then eventually gets his son in the union.

 4 months ago '15        #17
kami 26 heat pts26
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they dont hire n*ggas at construction sites you not getting in there.

 4 months ago '05        #18
HARBINGER 457 heat pts457
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No thanks. I'd rather be my own boss. Don't be a slave to money.. or society for that matter.

 4 months ago '11        #19
Sin 1674 heat pts1674 OP
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 Belize123 said
Unions were created to safeguard Jo's for white workers, after American slaves were freed and begun looking for employment. I wonder what color the Longshoremen are.

i sent this article to two cousins who are longshoremen in VA one said crane operators don't even make $46K in his area

 4 months ago '11        #20
Sin 1674 heat pts1674 OP
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 HARBINGER said
No thanks. I'd rather be my own boss. Don't be a slave to money.. or society for that matter.
one year of work here and you can open your own business with your own startup cash

and this article says you can work both because they barely go to work

 4 months ago '04        #21
eazyvaboy 58 heat pts58
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 Aries said
Nah getting in the longshoreman union over here is like the hardest construction/labor union to get into...You got a better chance playing the lotto. They don't open up like the other unions at all... and as he said, you really gotta be family or close friends to get in.
This


My pops is a longshoreman in the 757. When I came outta highschool, he said he can get me in and I said no thanks, I'll pass. Errbody was looking at me like I was crazy talmbout how hard it is to get in it there and you have to kinda be related to someone or have a connect.

He's retiring next year and he has great benefits and a great pension but his body and health is all f*cked up from doing that sh!t his whole life. He's been a super for long time and he hasn't done heavy lifting for a while but that sh!t took a toll on his body when he was in his 40s.


 4 months ago '05        #22
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 Belize123 said
Unions were created to safeguard Jo's for white workers, after American slaves were freed and begun looking for employment. I wonder what color the Longshoremen are.

Waters wet
Fish swim
REM is a stage of sleep

Thats about as on topic as you are.

 4 months ago '14        #23
El Caballero 73 heat pts73
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 HARBINGER said
No thanks. I'd rather be my own boss. Don't be a slave to money.. or society for that matter.
fu*k all that how I join this union

 4 months ago '05        #24
projectd06 2 heat pts
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 HARBINGER said
No thanks. I'd rather be my own boss. Don't be a slave to money.. or society for that matter.
What do you do?

 4 months ago '14        #25
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 projectd06 said
Waters wet
Fish swim
REM is a stage of sleep

Thats about as on topic as you are.
REM is a great band to me

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