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eazyvaboy 58 heat pts58
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Apr 14 - Men Arrested at Starbucks For...Waiting
 

 
A viral video of two men being arrested in a Starbucks has raised questions about police procedure and created a firestorm of debate online.

Footage of the startling incident was shared on Twitter by writer Melissa DePino. The video of the event, which reportedly took place on Thursday inside a Philadelphia Starbucks, has been viewed almost two million times (as of this writing) since it was uploaded. DePino wrote in her tweet that “The police were called because these men hadn’t ordered anything.”


The clips show the two black men being removed from the restaurant as another man is seen talking to a police officer, telling him the situation is “ridiculous.”

The officer says, “We got called. We didn’t just come out here.”

But the man doesn’t back off, asking the officers, “What did they get called for? Because they were two black guys sitting waiting to meet me? What did they do? What did they do? Tell me what they did.”

You can hear a woman saying, “They didn’t do anything, I saw the entire thing,”

DePino claimed on Twitter that a Starbucks employee phoned police. A debate about the cause of the arrest started almost instantly, with DePino tweeting people have a.ssumed there “must be something more to this story.”


The a.ssociated Press reports that Philadelphia’s police commissioner is defending his officers’ decision to arrest the two men in Starbucks.

Commissioner Richard Ross, who is black, said police asked the men to leave three times but they refused. They were arrested and released. Ross said his officers “did absolutely nothing wrong.”

There was no mention of the white man in the video who said he was meeting with the men. He called the arrest “ridiculous” on video.

Starbucks tweeted an additional message, further apologizing for the incident.


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 5 months ago '11        #2
SomeOnesoN 206 heat pts206
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 5 months ago '16        #3
Aztlan 65 heat pts65
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Why call the police?

 5 months ago '05        #4
Da Gooneyz 5 heat pts
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Debate??? Really????? fu*king hell...

 5 months ago '04        #5
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There's more to this story too

Outrage is mounting after two men were arrested at a Philadelphia Starbucks, and an eyewitness said a manager escalated the situation by calling police instead of asking the men to buy something or leave.

Lauren, who asked that her last name not be used, shot video of the two men being arrested at the Starbucks just before 5 p.m. on April 12. She said the incident began after the men asked to use the bathroom and were told that it was only available for paying customers, which Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross later confirmed.

After the men had been "quietly hanging out, chatting and waiting for their friend," she said officers entered the restaurant and asked the two men to leave, saying that they would be trespassing if they did not leave.

"The two young men politely asked why they were being told to leave and were not given a reason other than the manager wanted them to leave," she told ABC in an email.

The men told the officer that they were waiting for a friend to arrive and offered to call that friend to prove that they had legitimate business at the restaurant, she said.

At that point, she said several officers began to move tables and chairs around the two men and take them into custody.

The friend for whom the men were waiting then arrived and attempted to intervene, but police told him the men "were not paying customers and thus were trespassing," Lauren recalled.

"The two men stayed calm and did not raise their voices once. Everyone else in the Starbucks, however, was appalled," she added.

Lauren said another woman had entered the Starbucks minutes before the men were arrested and was given the bathroom code without having to buy anything and that another person in the restaurant at the time of the incident "announced that she had been sitting at Starbucks for the past couple of hours without buying anything."

"These men were discriminated against and unjustly detained. Being a person of privilege, it's hard to believe things like this still happen in 2018," Lauren told ABC. "Sometimes you don't fully believe it until you see it with your own eyes."


 5 months ago '04        #6
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I’ve seen numerous people hangout at Starbucks before without ordering anything and never have they been asked to leave, this is clearly discrimination and the fact that they called the police on them shows that the employees profiled the men and Starbucks response isn’t good enough.

 5 months ago '16        #7
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They were asked to leave 3 times tho and didn’t

 5 months ago '05        #8
GST 
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I knew it ... thread title says it all

 5 months ago '14        #9
black cobra 596 heat pts596
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 3 bs said
They were asked to leave 3 times tho and didn’t
If they were two middle eastern men I bet you would have a different tone

 5 months ago '08        #10
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Hopefully they get an attorney good enough to get them a nice 7 figure settlement out of this. Starbucks will pay it too.

On another note, this is an excellent opportunity for Dunkin Donuts to start promoting a diverse welcoming environment.

Just a thought.

 5 months ago '12        #11
OldBusiness 166 heat pts166
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Me and my homie always talk about how the one in this area is a hangout spot. We've seen people take food into it and sh*t from other restaurants. People don't like going cause high school kids loiter there like he'll.

This sh*t is crazy

 5 months ago '12        #12
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 tdnupe3 said
Hopefully they get an attorney good enough to get them a nice 7 figure settlement out of this. Starbucks will pay it too.

On another note, this is an excellent opportunity for Dunkin Donuts to start promoting a diverse welcoming environment.

Just a thought.
The Fox News crowd gone start buying and then burning breakfast from Duncan Donuts.

Florida Man gone run up in there with a gun for his 'rights'.

 5 months ago '09        #13
UrbanEnterprise 110 heat pts110
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Can they sue?

 5 months ago '07        #14
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I don't even know what I want to say, man...

 5 months ago '15        #15
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I hate Starbucks, Dunkin 4 life

 5 months ago '08        #16
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 OldBusiness said
The Fox News crowd gone start buying and then burning breakfast from Duncan Donuts.

Florida Man gone run up in there with a gun for his 'rights'.
What did Eazy say: "they can do what they want with em'. They bought them muffakas".

And the majority of the fox news crowd can't even afford dunkin donuts, let alone starbucks. They have to brew their coffee on the stove because they threw all their keurigs off their 2nd story apartment balconies and out their trailer park windows.

 5 months ago '14        #17
DUENASnoches 5 heat pts
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sh*t is damn sad. I applaud how the two men handled it as written in the story above. Brings more of the right type of attention to these ridiculous occurrences and terrible treatment.

 5 months ago '08        #18
tdnupe3 11 heat pts11
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 UrbanEnterprise said
Can they sue?
Hell yeah they can sue. They didn't do anything but wait on a friend before ordering. And ask to use a bathroom. The manager clearly was biased because she let others loiter and use the bathroom according to other employees and witnesses. All they have to say is that they were waiting on a friend before ordering and have one of the witnesses or employees back up their story. I don't think they can sue the police dept though. I mean the cops were d!cks, but I don't see how the police broke the law.

@ would know better than me though. I could be completely wrong.


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 5 months ago '08        #19
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This is riduculous

I bet tho idiot who called the cops on’em “felt unsafe”

Same shiet happened to me in a nice area around VA beach on the street by the beach houses. I was riding a motorcycle looking electric bike and some dumbf*k called the cops because they felt some type of way. Oddly, my homie owns 5 houses over there and i was just chillin in one of them. The callers were likely vacation renters from wherever the f*k they came visiting from

I was confronted by the cops who were more than ready to make sh*t happen, especially this “chief” but i dismantled his useless argument as my engine was under 500watts, so there was no need for a helmet or a license plate (that was their excuse for stopping me btw), as he realized he wasn’t dealing with an idiot he calmed down reeaaall quick for some reason and suddenly became a ‘gentleman’

After they left and of course 100 eyes stared at me from every direction, i get back in the house as everyone asks me what happened, and after they were surprised, the white family friend who was doing THE SAME DAMN THING told me that he did ride by a police car, and he told me that they waved at him, and he waved back so you KNOW whoever called specifically described my azz

I get that the police have to address an issue especially when called, but useless attitude is uncalled for, and whoever the hell the caller is, fuk’em. Call the popo when you witness a potential REAL danger not some “oh they MUST” be doing something wrong

 5 months ago '16        #20
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 Black Anaconda said
If they were two middle eastern men I bet you would have a different tone
Nope, if manager/cops told them to leave since they didn’t buy anything thems the rules. Wait outside

 5 months ago '08        #21
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I hope they sue and get their $$’s worth. The embarrassment they had to endure boils my blood

 5 months ago '07        #22
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 3 bs said
They were asked to leave 3 times tho and didn’t
Don’t be an idiot.....even online just don’t

 5 months ago '16        #23
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 FeedTheBeast said
Don’t be an idiot.....even online just don’t
What’s the problem? They were loitering

 5 months ago '05        #24
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I agree with the arrest if the reason they were waiting is to be a grown man and meeting up to hear a Herbalife pitch.

 5 months ago '05        #25
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 tdnupe3 said
Hell yeah they can sue. They didn't do anything but wait on a friend before ordering. And ask to use a bathroom. The manager clearly was biased because she let others loiter and use the bathroom according to other employees and witnesses. All they have to say is that they were waiting on a friend before ordering and have one of the witnesses or employees back up their story. I don't think they can sue the police dept though. I mean the cops were d!cks, but I don't see how the police broke the law.

@ would know better than me though. I could be completely wrong.

What do you think the legal basis is for them to sue?

 5 months ago '05        #26
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The only time I ever fcuked with Starbucks was if my mom asked me to bring her a coffee when I came over. Since she don’t drink the sh*t anymore I have no reason to patronize this sh*thole. My only concern is that we as blacks will only boycott this bullsh*t and be right back in this bi*ch Monday morning.

 5 months ago '07        #27
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 3 bs said
What’s the problem? They were loitering
The manager was pus*y and probably scared of black people. They should have been approached by the manager before the police were called. sh*t I have seen white people chilling hard af in Starbucks just for the WiFi and ain’t bought a damn thing. They don’t get arrested.

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 5 months ago '15        #29
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Man listen I've walked in so many spots and presence alone has people giving off so many funny vibes...def not surprising. I was in a restaurant the other day literally waiting for my food takeout and like three waitresses some black whispering and snickering what does he want whys he just standing there guess we don't look like we belong or are making patrons uncomfortable...rough out here

 5 months ago '08        #30
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 Gully Reloaded said
What do you think the legal basis is for them to sue?
I would say descrimination or profiling in the broad sense of the terms. I mean, they would have to prove certain things to be true (that the police were called because of race, or they were asked to leave when other weren't for doing the exact same thing).

Like I said though, I would ask @. He is much more versed in legal jargon than myself, so I'll defer to him on this one.

But, I would definitely contact a lawyer and try to get them to settle out of court. It's almost more beneficial for starbucks to settle this than to let it go all the way to a judgement. Even if starbucks wins the case, they lose in the court of public opinion for supporting racist behavior (well, what appears to be racist behavior anyways). Imagine if just 10% of their PAYING customers decided to go elsewhere for a month. The power of internet videos/pictures and public perception is strong.

They don't have to worry about me stepping foot in one of their stores or purchasing their nasty drinks for my son, sister, mom, gf, etc. until they provide an acceptable response to this.

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