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Black Panther’ Editor Reveals Two ‘Painful’ Scenes Cut From Film
 

 
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Even a juicy, global sensation like "Black Panther" had some fat to trim -- not that anyone involved in the blockbuster was happy about leaving moments on the cutting room floor.

The film's editor and frequent Ryan Coogler collaborator Michael Shawver spoke with ThewWrap about his latest gig, a cultural phenomenon that on Sunday crossed the billion-dollar mark at the worldwide box office.

"Hands down the most painful scene to cut was [one] with Danai Gurira and Daniel Kaluuya," Shawver said of the actors, who play Wakanda's armed forces General Okoye and tribe ambassador W'Kabi, respectively. They're also onscreen lovers.

"Toward the end, after things go bad and k!llmonger [Michael B. Jordan] is in control and all that, we're talking about, what are they going to do? What is Wakanda going to become?" Shawver recalled.

"Those are two powerhouse actors and it was an incredible scene with so many layers to it -- boyfriend and girlfriend, it was general and her advisor, all those things. That was painful," he said.

In his role as editor, Shawver said his priority was to "have your finger on the pulse of what the audience is feeling. At that point in the movie, it's about two thirds through, and that's when most movies drag. Ours was taking a while to get to that point."

The other cut scene was a grounding moment for Chadwick Boseman's T'Challa and Forest Whitaker's Zuri, the latter serving as an elder statesman for the fictional African country under the black panther's rule.

"There's a scene between Chadwick and Forest's characters which sets up their relationship. It sort of lets you attach yourself to their father-son dynamic so that later on in the film ... you really feel more," he said.

Shawver confirmed that the scenes would be included on the forthcoming home entertainment release of "Black Panther," available as DVD extras.

The editor and director met as film school students at the University of Southern California, where Shawver said he gravitated toward Coogler's bold and personal filmmaking style. Shawver never imagined they would reach this level of success, he admitted.

"Ryan and I have been a team for five years, it's honestly hard to wrap my head around it," said Shawver, who said Coogler approached Marvel executives with the same determination and heart he had for their indie "Fruitvale Station."

"It was a great excuse as an adult male to read as many comics as I could. I got a sense of it, Ryan brought me to Marvel and they asked me everything from 'Will you be able to handle this?' to, 'What is your favorite Marvel movie?" Shawver said. "Ryan likes to be able to trust everybody he works with."

In his job interview, Shawver told the executives his favorite Marvel film was "The Avengers." We dare say he's got a new favorite now.

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34 comments for "Black Panther’ Editor Reveals Two ‘Painful’ Scenes Cut From Film"

 9 months ago '09        #2
ahmadou1 47 heat pts47
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Definitely getting the full directors cut.

 9 months ago '06        #3
LeMar G 247 heat pts247
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Did they ever explain why they removed his intelligence and gave it to shuri?


Why is BP a mandingo f!ghter now?

 9 months ago '17        #4
1Oh 6 heat pts
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 LeMar G said
Did they ever explain why they removed his intelligence and gave it to shuri?


Why is BP a mandingo f!ghter now?
So you missed the part when T'Challa said he designed the Civil War armor, when T'Challa strategized Nakia's rescue in the beginning of the movie, when T'Challa bugged Agent Ross during the Klaw interrogation on the low, and when T'Challa strategically deactivated Erik & his own armor in the great mound.

There's more than one way to be intelligent. You don't have to be an obvious computer whiz (Shuri's character). T'Challa is a subtle, calm, strategist and leader; and plays at least one step ahead.

 9 months ago '16        #5
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 ahmadou1 said
Definitely getting the full directors cut.
I need that full 4 hour cut that was rumored...fu*k deleted scenes as extras...put them sh*ts in the edit and give me the full thing, I don't care if the run time bloats to 6 hours it'll be worth it

 9 months ago '14        #6
mumbosauce 271 heat pts271
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 1Oh said
So you missed the part when T'Challa said
Over his head like bird sh*t

 9 months ago '04        #7
ATLDOPEBOI30 76 heat pts76
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Yea when that 4hr cut go on preorder

 9 months ago '06        #8
LeMar G 247 heat pts247
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 1Oh said
So you missed the part when T'Challa said he designed the Civil War armor, when T'Challa strategized Nakia's rescue in the beginning of the movie, when T'Challa bugged Agent Ross during the Klaw interrogation on the low, and when T'Challa strategically deactivated Erik & his own armor in the great mound.

There's more than one way to be intelligent. You don't have to be an obvious computer whiz (Shuri's character). T'Challa is a subtle, calm, strategist and leader; and plays at least one step ahead.
This goes against his character tho

He IS probably top 3 smartest individulas in the Marvel universe.

So what he can strategize, even cap can do that.

If you only know MCU miss me with that commentary


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 9 months ago '17        #9
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Yeah sign me up for the 4 Hour cut too not just the same fu*king Deleted Scenes and Gag Reel Bullsh*t

It will likely break records when it releases Blu Ray and Digital as well

 9 months ago '07        #10
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This n*gga @ be having the funniest avy's


That said, MCU has cut down the IQ(at face value) of 2 prominent black superheroes in both Falcon and Black Panther. and that said they are both supposed to be as smart as Tony, arguably smarter in the case of T'Challa.


Something i personally noticed and i'm FAR from the heavy comic head. So if I can see this, not sure how ppl can question comic heads who have more knowledge than me

 9 months ago '17        #11
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 LeMar G said
This goes against his character tho

He IS probably top 3 smartest individulas in the Marvel universe.

So what he can strategize, even cap can do that.

If you only know MCU miss me with that commentary


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Your probably new to Marvel comics but the top 3 smartest earth based characters canon wise are Reed, Doom, and Valeria. Cho is 7 so T'challa is btwn 4-6 or 8-10. You take your pick.

 9 months ago '06        #12
LeMar G 247 heat pts247
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 CJ Schwarz said
Your probably new to Marvel comics but the top 3 smartest earth based characters canon wise are Reed, Doom, and Valeria. Cho is 7 so T'challa is btwn 4-6 or 8-10. You take your pick.


Im not new to sh*t,

and that's your opinion since intelligence isnt ranked in cannon.

And you didnt even mention Pym



FOH

 9 months ago '07        #13
Rico23 25 heat pts25
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 CJ Schwarz said
Your probably new to Marvel comics but the top 3 smartest earth based characters canon wise are Reed, Doom, and Valeria. Cho is 7 so T'challa is btwn 4-6 or 8-10. You take your pick.

Thanks for keeping up with the real issues in this thread

 9 months ago '17        #14
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This is like star wars for black people. GOD DAMNNNNNNN

 9 months ago '17        #15
1Oh 6 heat pts
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 LeMar G said
This goes against his character tho

He IS probably top 3 smartest individulas in the Marvel universe.

So what he can strategize, even cap can do that.

If you only know MCU miss me with that commentary
So in the context of this movie's plot, what exactly did you want him to do to prove that he's super intelligent?

You needed a montage of him in a lab coat with test tubes and tinkering with wakandan technology to prove he's smart?


 9 months ago '17        #16
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 LeMar G said


Im not new to sh*t,

and that's your opinion since intelligence isnt ranked in cannon.

And you didnt even mention Pym



FOH
You said T'challa was top 3 and this the only site I've seen it stated as so. It's just an understanding that the top 3 is Reed, Valeria, and Doom.

1. REED
2. DOOM
3.Valeria
4. Pym
5. Banner
6. T'challa

 9 months ago '06        #17
LeMar G 247 heat pts247
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 CJ Schwarz said
You said T'challa was top 3 and this the only site I've seen it stated as so. It's just an understanding that the top 3 is Reed, Valeria, and Doom.

1. REED
2. DOOM
3.Valeria
4. Pym
5. Banner
6. T'challa
reread what i wrote, I said probably,

but regardless i'm not mad at that

Although there is no understanding on anything thats not cannon. I could argue moon girl is smarter than all of them.

But, I would argue that Stark and Tchalla should be on that list over banner

Reed's intelligence is overrated AF

But thats the nice thing about comics. I can make that claim anytime I want.

 9 months ago '17        #18
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 LeMar G said
reread what i wrote, I said probably,

but regardless i'm not mad at that

Although there is no understanding on anything thats not cannon. I could argue moon girl is smarter than all of them.

But, I would argue that Stark and Tchalla should be on that list over banner

Reed's intelligence is overrated AF

But thats the nice thing about comics. I can make that claim anytime I want.
Respect bro Black Panther hit a billy that's all that matters, Wakanda forever
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 9 months ago '08        #19
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 1Oh said
So you missed the part when T'Challa said he designed the Civil War armor, when T'Challa strategized Nakia's rescue in the beginning of the movie, when T'Challa bugged Agent Ross during the Klaw interrogation on the low, and when T'Challa strategically deactivated Erik & his own armor in the great mound.

There's more than one way to be intelligent. You don't have to be an obvious computer whiz (Shuri's character). T'Challa is a subtle, calm, strategist and leader; and plays at least one step ahead.
Based on the actual character from the comics, he in the movie is kind a dumb dumb when compared to.

 9 months ago '17        #20
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 1Oh said
So you missed the part when T'Challa said he designed the Civil War armor, when T'Challa strategized Nakia's rescue in the beginning of the movie, when T'Challa bugged Agent Ross during the Klaw interrogation on the low, and when T'Challa strategically deactivated Erik & his own armor in the great mound.

There's more than one way to be intelligent. You don't have to be an obvious computer whiz (Shuri's character). T'Challa is a subtle, calm, strategist and leader; and plays at least one step ahead.
Damn !!!😲
But true !

 9 months ago '06        #21
LeMar G 247 heat pts247
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 Kewop Decam said
Based on the actual character from the comics, he in the movie is kind a dumb dumb when compared to.
They dont even know

 9 months ago '15        #22
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 LeMar G said
reread what i wrote, I said probably,

but regardless i'm not mad at that

Although there is no understanding on anything thats not cannon. I could argue moon girl is smarter than all of them.

But, I would argue that Stark and Tchalla should be on that list over banner

Reed's intelligence is overrated AF

But thats the nice thing about comics. I can make that claim anytime I want.
"Future" Trunks

 9 months ago '17        #23
1Oh 6 heat pts
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 Kewop Decam said
Based on the actual character from the comics, he in the movie is kind a dumb dumb when compared to.
True, but MCU T'Challa is most certainly not dumb or just a "mandingo f!ghter". You have to ignore A LOT to come up with that conclusion.

Even in Civil War, T'Challa showed signs of being one step ahead (Ex: secretly tailing Tony Stark to get to Bucky) and made good/sound decisions (Ex: choosing not to be consumed by vengeance like Tony, Cap, Zemo). All of these signs of his personality are further defined in the Black Panther movie; T'Challa is different kind of intelligent.

The "science geek" aspect of T'Challa in the comics is a worthy sacrifice to make Shuri a more unique character, and more vital to T'Challa on & off the field of battle. T'Challa doesn't necessarily NEED Shuri to be Black Panther, to solve problems for him, or to get him out of trouble; but he delegates her as his tech sidekick to make him more effective at his job. I like the James Bond & Q teamwork. Plus it also sets Shuri up to be a more distinctly different kind of Black Panther if/when becomes she Queen of Wakanda in future films.

 9 months ago '13        #24
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This is why I hate this movie biz sometimes if it actually helps the story and the film then keep that sh*t in the fans will not give a damn about a lenghtly movie if it's good and the scenes actually help the story move

 9 months ago '14        #25
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You n*ggas are nerds

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