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 3 months ago '06        #1
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LYTE 139 heat pts139
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FBI arrests CEO for customizing BBs...
 

 
Phantom Secure is a company known for selling customized BlackBerry models. To make the 'Berry even more secure than it is out of the box, the camera and microphones are removed and secure messages are sent only through private networks. While certain businesses and politicians might have an interest in such a device, it appears that a percentage of Phantom Secure's business is conducted with gangs, according to a report published on Saturday.

Papers filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California last week, charge Phantom Secure's founder and CEO Vincent Ramos with racketeering, conspiracy to conduct enterprise affairs, and allege that he took part in a conspiracy to distribute narcotics. Ramos was also charged with aiding and abetting. The complaint adds that the company was created to help hide criminal activity.

According to the report, besides the removal of the camera and microphone, the customized BlackBerry models each have their GPS system, internet browser, and normal messaging system removed. Added to these phones is the Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) software for encryption, and messages are sent through overseas networks. And if one of these devices is confiscated by law enforcement, it can be remotely wiped by Phantom Secure.

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Ramos was arrested last Thursday and the complaint, which was written by FBI Special Agent Nicholas Cheviron, includes some details about the use of Phantom Secure's customized BlackBerry phones by major drug cartels and multinational crime gangs. Over 20,000 units are said to be in use with half of those being used in Australia.


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 3 months ago '09        #2
WILLIAM 50 heat pts50
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Australia has cartels?
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 3 months ago '06        #3
bigkilla 24 heat pts24
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I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
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 3 months ago '10        #4
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
Seems like we're headed in that direction. If big brother can't watch you then you will be imprisoned and watched.
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 3 months ago '15        #5
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
At the very least they just wanna put the pressure on him and cost him a sh*t load of money in lawyer fees. U know how they do.
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 3 months ago '15        #6
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Nah fbi trapped him theyve been working him for a few years. They got him admitting the phones are for terrorist use. Even had a undercover ask him about erasing the phone because his buddy got caught with drugs and had the messages on his phone. They have servers in Panama which no govt can access so thats how secure it was. Pretty sh*tty they set the guy up but the govt doesnt want you to have privacy especially youre phone since they can pretty much get anytype of information about you from it almost instantly.
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 3 months ago '06        #7
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 Kden said:
At the very least they just wanna put the pressure on him and cost him a sh*t load of money in lawyer fees. U know how they do.
Yup... and ruin his image before he even gets into court.
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
In ohio I kno they passed a law a few years back about compartments just having one even if empty is illegal
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 3 months ago '04        #9
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 3 months ago '15        #10
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 UrZTrulY-KINg said:
In ohio I kno they passed a law a few years back about compartments just having one even if empty is illegal
Yo I swear they said some sh*t like 10 years
 3 months ago '18        #11
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 WILLIAM said:
Australia has cartels?

sh*t started as a prison colony so imagine smh ..

ive read all kinds of sh*t .. unfortunately
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 3 months ago '18        #12
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crazy how that Q [A N O
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DUDE WAS SAYING WATCH AUSTRALIA LAST WEEK
 3 months ago '15        #13
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This is a bogus control thing to keep wealth in certain hands because pre paid phones do the same sh*t
 3 months ago '06        #14
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 Fantastic said:
Nah fbi trapped him theyve been working him for a few years. They got him admitting the phones are for terrorist use. Even had a undercover ask him about erasing the phone because his buddy got caught with drugs and had the messages on his phone. They have servers in Panama which no govt can access so thats how secure it was. Pretty sh*tty they set the guy up but the govt doesnt want you to have privacy especially youre phone since they can pretty much get anytype of information about you from it almost instantly.
You aren't understanding the point. This is the beginning bruh... I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist and all that but that's how it always begins... someone gets arrested on some crazy sh*t to convince everyone else to give up their rights.

So when Sony admitted terrorists were using the Playstation to talk undetected that's ok?

It's always a snowball effect... look how they're trying to take down that telegram app or whatever.

Look at all the surveillance there is now... 20 years ago none of that woulda flew... but people get scared and say "I have nothing to hide it's ok"... but don't understand the repercussions.. the dude's business was to modify phones.
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 3 months ago '15        #15
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 bigkilla said:
You aren't understanding the point. This is the beginning bruh... I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist and all that but that's how it always begins... someone gets arrested on some crazy sh*t to convince everyone else to give up their rights.

So when Sony admitted terrorists were using the Playstation to talk undetected that's ok?

It's always a snowball effect... look how they're trying to take down that telegram app or whatever.

Look at all the surveillance there is now... 20 years ago none of that woulda flew... but people get scared and say "I have nothing to hide it's ok"... but don't understand the repercussions.. the dude's business was to modify phones.
Im just saying he blatently admitted to undercovers his phones were soley made for terrorist or drug activity I forgot but I know what you mean sh*t is mad spooky and hopefully there is a right way to have this product legally without any fuss.
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 3 months ago '06        #16
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 Fantastic said:
Im just saying he blatently admitted to undercovers his phones were soley made for terrorist or drug activity I forgot but I know what you mean sh*t is mad spooky and hopefully there is a right way to have this product legally without any fuss.
That dude is a goner either way.


Either he pissed off the government enough by showing people how it's done and he's locked up for life


Or he gets out and now his clients grow suspicious of him and have to get rid of him.
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 3 months ago '15        #17
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It’s like this, what he did wasn’t illegal at all, but once he says thats what it’s for it’s a different ball game. In my state weed isn’t legal so if you go to a smoke shop and want a bong or whatever you can’t say weed or they can’t sell you sh*t legally. Tobacco pipes would the legal way to say it, he got to comfortable and I’m a.ssuming friendly. Should have told customers never tell him why it’s to be erased. In all honesty he should of made that accessible thru the internet so they can do it on their own. As I say that I remeber the phones don’t have internet, maybe I’m tripping but techies if can still wipe the phone from far away then the info can still b accessed right?
 3 months ago '15        #18
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.


This has aleady happened in state and fed court and even making those compartments is illegal in some places, California specifically.
 3 months ago '16        #19
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
Pretty much all they gotta say is ur connected to gangs or criminals and they can arrest you welcome to america
 3 months ago '15        #20
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 bigkilla said:
I understand what the phones can be used for


But because people want to stay off the grid... it's illegal to modify your own device you paid them for?


Is this what we're leading to? that if you don't have tracking capabilities on your phone you will be arrested?


I can almost bet that all those other charges won't hold and they're tacking them on to make the guy look like a criminal.... did he probably know? yea probably... but was he a part of it? no. It was his business to modify phones... are we going to arrest everyone who knows how to design hidden compartments in cars? arrest people who make VPNs?

This is getting ridiculous.
why not arrest tim cook, or the head of samsung aswell?

i can guarantee more drug dealers use iPhones and galaxy's than BB's.
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