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Rolling Stone Magazine Rates Eminem Better Than Tupac and N.W.A.


 


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 04-19-2005, 09:00 PM         #1
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Rolling Stone Magazine Rates Eminem Better Than Tupac and N.W.A.
 

 
Just a few artist ratings from Hip Hop. From the April 21 Edition of Rolling Stone Magazine.

Dr.Dre #54
Beastie Boys #77
Eminem #82
N.W.A. #83
Tupac Shakur gets #86

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66 comments for "Rolling Stone Magazine Rates Eminem Better Than Tupac and N.W.A."

 14 years ago '04        #2
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i'll rate him over 2pac too

*waits for the hates*

 04-19-2005, 09:22 PM         #3
T.O.N.Y  OP
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it is Rolling Stone...what u expect

 04-19-2005, 09:27 PM         #4
Enyce  OP
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the list looks good i might have put tupac higher though .

 04-19-2005, 09:35 PM         #5
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 S.D.174 said
basically. fu*k other people's opinions.
Basically.....but ya'll gotta understand that outside of Hip Hop Eminem probably did have a bigger impact, people that know NOTHING about Hip Hop/Rap Music know about Em....the same can't be said about Pac....But inside of Hip Hop everyone, for the most par knows and understands Pac significance and ranking Em higher then Pac would be blasphemy.....

 14 years ago '04        #6
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lyrically eminem was better, and thats a fact if you know anything about lyrics.

but as far as the impact on the hiphop music and its listeners, 2pac takes it by a long shot.

 04-19-2005, 10:18 PM         #7
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 youngen said
lyrically eminem was better, and thats a fact if you know anything about lyrics.

but as far as the impact on the hiphop music and its listeners, 2pac takes it by a long shot.

I don't know about the lyrically part, but Em does have a better flow, it's just more adaptive. Pac never really changed it up, Like In the song he did with Bone "Thug Love", Pac basically kept the same flow (as opposed to Biggie who spit Bone style), but if you compare Em songs like "Stan", "My Name Is" and "Lose Yourself", you can see how adaptive his style is. But like I said earlier also Pac's impact within hip hop is FAR more significant.

 14 years ago '04        #8
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 04-19-2005, 10:36 PM         #9
ADrake22  OP
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They put the Beach Boys over Pac... yea... its official... they dont know sh*t about rap or hip-hop.....

 04-19-2005, 10:38 PM         #10
ADrake22  OP
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im surprise Micheal Jackson is that low... i think shoulda been in the top 20... everybody in the WORLD knows or like atleast one Micheal Jackson song... u can't say the same thing about any other artist... ever...

 04-19-2005, 10:46 PM         #11
backMJPIP2333  OP
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damn im white and i dont even agree with that Em over Pac sh*t.

 04-19-2005, 10:48 PM         #12
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 ADrake22 said
im surprise Micheal Jackson is that low... i think shoulda been in the top 20... everybody in the WORLD knows or like atleast one Micheal Jackson song... u can't say the same thing about any other artist... ever...
ya Mike Jack mosdefinately shoulda been top 10 or even top 5 imo......

 04-19-2005, 11:20 PM         #13
TheTruth  OP
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Lyrics?
Dear Mama, Keep Ya Head Up, If I Die 2Nite, Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Hit Em Up, Only God Can Judge Me, Old School, Brenda's Got A Baby, Streets Are deathrow, etc, etc> anything Eminem has done.

They both got lyrics, but there's always the ever-important subject matter...

 04-20-2005, 12:07 AM         #14
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Rolling Stone is full of sh*t - I'm pretty sure 90 percent of people with a regular type of brain knows that.

How are you gonna put Eminem simple butt in a category with 2pac?!?!? Mama, Kim, his infamous Daughter, Kim K, all knows it's biased.

Purposely overated pop-stars -- I tell you.

The boy lyrics is nothing ... atleast since his first album, and the lyrics on that is so overated that it's not funny; he had a couple nice songs that had a few good lines. But thats about it - the rest were simple and goofy.

Sure people know more about him then 2pac. sh*t, the Shady Convention come on, like, every damn month.

Let's see if the boy start hittin' channel 3.

I'm always up for a very, very good laugh, though. No matter who, or what, it is.

 04-20-2005, 12:13 AM         #15
BestDamnRapShow  OP
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think about rolling stone readers ... the target audience is alot different than source or vibe so im sure the sound that they are looking for is a bit different.

 04-20-2005, 12:15 AM         #16
allabout$  OP
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They think "The Beatles" are the no. 1 band to ever grace music.

they hardly ever mentioned 2pac on their mag until he dies

They are named after a ROCK AND ROLL GROUP FROM THE 80's

they gave Encore 4 whole stars and they gave "The Eminem Show" only 3.



so u really want to know or even care about the opinions of these stupid a.ss people?


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 04-20-2005, 12:30 AM         #17
TaXeS  OP
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 T.O.N.Y said
it is Rolling Stone...what u expect


..........
Hal Blaine has been a session drummer on recordings by Elvis Presley, Phil Spector, the Beach Boys and many others.

Nathan Brackett is a senior editor at Rolling Stone, where he edits the record-reviews section.

Jackson Browne was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. Cliff Burnstein is the founder of QPrime Management, which handles Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Garbage.

Chuck D is a musician, writer and activist who founded Public Enemy in 1982.

Anthony DeCurtis has written for Rolling Stone for more than twenty years.

Neil Diamond's thirteen Top Ten hits include "Sweet Caroline," "Cherry, Cherry" and "Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon."

Bo Diddley, one of the inventors of rock & roll, began his career with Chess in 1955.

Dr. John has released nearly thirty albums of New Orleans funk, jazz and R&B.

The Edge started U2 with schoolmates Bono, Larry Mullen Jr. and Adam Clayton in 1978. They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame this year.

Jason Fine is an a.ssistant managing editor at Rolling Stone.

Bill Flanagan is a writer as well as senior vice president and editorial director of MTV Networks International.

David Fricke is a senior editor at ROLLING STONE, where he has worked since 1985.

Gil Friesen was president of A&M Records for twenty-seven years and worked with Sting, Janet Jackson and the Carpenters.

Art Garfunkel had his first hit with Paul Simon -- a doo-wop song, "Hey, Schoolgirl" -- under the name Tom and Jerry in 1957.

David Geffen began his career managing artists including Laura Nyro and Crosby, Stills and Nash. He founded Asylum Records in 1971 and Geffen Records in 1977.

Billy Gibbons is a guitarist with ZZ Top, who were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2004.

Mikal Gilmore has been a writer for ROLLING STONE for more than twenty years.

Albert Hammond Jr., guitarist for the Strokes, lives in New York.

James Henke is the chief curator for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. He was music editor at ROLLING STONE from 1981 to 1993.

Don Henley launched his career in 1970 as the drummer in the Texas rock band Shiloh. He is a founding member of the Eagles.

Robert Hilburn is a pop-music critic and editor at the Los Angeles Times.

Chrissie Hynde worked as a rock critic for London's New Musical Express in 1974 before founding the Pretenders.

Don Ienner is the president of Sony Music Label Group U.S. He started working in the Capitol Records mailroom while in high school.

Lenny Kaye compiled Nuggets, a classic garage-rock anthology, in 1972. He plays guitar for the Patti Smith Group.

Jon Landau began his career at ROLLING STONE in 1967. He has produced albums for the MC5, Jackson Browne and Bruce Springsteen, whom he has managed for twenty-six years.

Joe Levy is a deputy managing editor at ROLLING STONE.

Kurt Loder is a correspondent at MTV and a ROLLING STONE contributing editor.

Greil Marcus was ROLLING STONE's first record-reviews editor. His books include Mystery Train, Lipstick Traces and Dead Elvis.

Joe McEwen is an A&R consultant who has worked with Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, Wilco and the Beastie Boys.

Moby released his first record with the punk group Vatican Commandos in 1983. His 1999 breakthrough, Play, sold 10 million copies.

Doug Morris wrote the Chiffons' 1966 hit "Sweet Talkin' Guy." He is now chairman and CEO of Universal Music Group.

Ric Ocasek was the lead singer for the Cars and has produced albums by Iggy Pop, Weezer and No Doubt.

Joe Perry has been playing guitar with Aerosmith since the band formed in 1970.

Antonio "LA" Reid, along with his partner Babyface, founded LaFace Records, home to TLC and OutKast. He is currently chairman of Island Def Jam Records.

Keith Richards started his career singing in a boys' choir that once performed for the queen of England. He has played guitar for the Rollling Stones since 1962.

Smokey Robinson had eighteen Top Thirty hits with the Miracles on Motown Records, and wrote and produced songs for Mary Wells and Marvin Gaye.

Rick Rubin co-founded Def Jam Records in 1984 from his New York University dorm room. He has produced albums for Run-DMC, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Johnny Cash.

Carlos Santana's band Santana debuted at Bill Graham's Fillmore West in 1968. The guitarist's 1999 album Supernatural sold 10 million copies and earned nine Grammys.

Mike Shinoda is a vocalist in Linkin Park, which won a 2001 Grammy for Best Hard Rock Performance for "Crawling."

Slash was the lead guitarist for Guns n' Roses and now plays with Velvet Revolver.

Bruce Springsteen has won ten Grammys and an Academy Award since he began releasing albums in 1973.

Seymour Stein is co-founder of Sire Records. He helped launch the careers of Madonna and the Ramones, and was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame this year.

Stephen Stills formed Buffalo Springfield in 1966. Two years later he joined Crosby, Stills and Nash, with whom he still tours.

Quentin Tarantino is a filmmaker and aficionado of soul, surf and obscure rock music.

Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson produces and plays drums for the Roots. He has played on albums by John Mayer, Joss Stone, D'Angelo and many others.

Pete Townshend began his career in the 1950s playing banjo in a Dixieland band with John Entwistle. Both were founding members of the Who in 1964.

Little Steven, guitarist for Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, hosts the radio show Little Steven's Underground Garage.

Butch Vig, drummer for Garbage, produced Nirvana's Nevermind and the Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream.

Bob Weir is a singer, songwriter and rhythm guitarist for the Dead.

Jann S. Wenner is the editor and publisher of ROLLING STONE. Last year, he was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Jerry Wexler is a producer and former vice president of Atlantic Records, where he guided the careers of Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin.

Lucinda Williams started writing songs as a teenager. Her music has earned three Grammys and has been covered by Tom Petty, Emmylou Harris and others.

Peter Wolf often visited Harlem's Apollo Theater as a kid to see Otis Redding and James Brown perform. He formed the J. Geils Band in the late 1960s and has recorded six solo albums.

Adam Yauch is a member of the Beastie Boys and a co-founder of the Tibetan Freedom Concerts.


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 04-20-2005, 12:40 AM         #18
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 allabout$ said

they gave Encore 4 whole stars and they gave "The Eminem Show" only 3.


so u really want to know or even care about the opinions of these stupid a.ss people?
They only do that type of sh*t to diss/make fun of rap music. If Eminem would of been rappin' about 'ketchup' on the entire album, they would of gave it five stars. They would of hated rock-n-roll if my people stuck with it. And yup, pure lusers they are.

 04-20-2005, 12:57 AM         #19
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How come nobody cares that the Beastie Boys are so high on there?
Maybe they could be switched with Pac to make it a little better.

Eminem has had a huge influence over the music industry, so did Pac, but Pac's was more localized to hip hop, same with NWA. As far as skill goes, I would have a hard time putting Em above Pac, but I could make a case either way.

However, I couldn't make a case for Beastie Boys >> Pac or Em in influence or in skill.

 04-20-2005, 01:12 AM         #20
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If anything, Bone Thugs should be at the top, as far as groups. [But like I said] in previous statements...

 14 years ago '04        #21
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Michael Jackson should be top 5. How many of yall n*ggas can name three Bob Dylan songs...????

dat sh*t is wack. just cuz he's on trial n' he fu*ks kids doesnt make him less great as a musician. MJ is the sh*t.

<<<<< i'll sh*t on all ya tracks..

 04-20-2005, 01:32 AM         #22
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Datz fu*kin Bullsh*t. Eminem Is Horrible fu*k Dat sh*t

 04-20-2005, 03:06 AM         #23
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 dumb_ass23 said
How come nobody cares that the Beastie Boys are so high on there?
Maybe they could be switched with Pac to make it a little better.

Eminem has had a huge influence over the music industry, so did Pac, but Pac's was more localized to hip hop, same with NWA. As far as skill goes, I would have a hard time putting Em above Pac, but I could make a case either way.

However, I couldn't make a case for Beastie Boys >> Pac or Em in influence or in skill.
I think the list had more to do with influence rather then skill, I definately wouldn't rank Eminem over Pac in terms of skill, Eminem doesn't even rank Eminem over Pac in skill, but in terms of influence to the wider musical world, you gotta give it to Eminem, I remeber flippin through radio stations and hearing ROCK radios stations playing Eminem. I don't think that EVER happended with Tupac. Then you look at record sales, Em has more there too.

You all gotta remember Rolling Stone magazine is a Rock/Pop magazine, it's not exactly Source, XXL or Vibe, magazines that deal specifcally with Hip Hop world. So while Tupac definately had a bigger impact within Hip Hop, Em had more of an impact outside of Hip Hop. The save the reasons why for WHY Em had more of an impact for another thread. Look at the other Hip Hop artists that they ranked higher then Pac, the SAME argument can be made with them, with the exceptions Of Public Enemy and Run DMC, we would even be listening to Pac if it wasn't for those too groups.

 04-20-2005, 11:07 AM         #24
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Where in the HELL was E-40 ? ha ha ha ha ha ! No Fresh Prince ? Ha ha ha ha ! Rolling Stone is wack !

 04-20-2005, 11:17 AM         #25
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notice on the list of who made this list the only one that is black (as far as i know) and the only one involved in hip hop is chuck d.... old white guys only know old white music

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