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Sep 28 - El Cajon, CA officer fatally shoots African-American man
 

 
El Cajon, California (CNN)A black man has died after police shot him in El Cajon, California, sparking protests in the suburb northeast of San Diego.
On Tuesday afternoon, El Cajon police responded to a 911 call regarding an African-American man in his 30s who reportedly was behaving "erratically" behind a restaurant at the Broadway Village Shopping Center, Lt. Rob Ransweiler said.

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'Not acting like himself'

According to the call, the man was "not acting like himself" and had been walking in traffic in a manner that endangered himself and motorists, police Chief Jeff Davis said.

"When (officers) contacted him, he failed to comply with the directives that he was given," Ransweiler said.

Instead, Davis said the man kept his hands concealed in his pockets while pacing back and forth. As a second officer prepared a Taser, the man "rapidly drew an object," placed both hands on it "like you would be holding a firearm" and stood in a "shooting stance," according to police.

In response, one officer fired his gun at the man, while a second officer discharged his Taser, Davis said. It's not clear if the man was armed. According to Davis, investigators did not find a firearm at the scene of the shooting. Investigators did not say what object was found -- or if it was a weapon.

In the aftermath of the shooting and the man's death, Rumbie Mubaiwa began filming on Facebook Live.

In the video, a distraught woman says she called 911 to get help for the man she says is her brother. She describes him as "sick." Several police are on the scene. One interviews a witness and two put up yellow police tape. Several officers can be seen congregating in the background as the sister sits on a rock wailing.


"You guys k*lled my brother in front of me," she cries, as Mubaiwa records the scene. "Why couldn't you guys Tase him? Why? Why? Why? Why?"

Police say they have not been able to confirm whether she is related to the victim. As a result, police have not released the name of the man, because they want to notify family members first.

Ransweiler encouraged El Cajon residents to be patient as investigators looked into the shooting. Per county protocol, Davis said El Cajon police would not release video footage collected from witnesses and local businesses until the district attorney has had a chance to review the evidence.

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99 comments for "Sep 28 - El Cajon, CA officer fatally shoots African-American man"

 3 years ago '07        #2
dloc757 11 heat pts11
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Damn I just moved out of that city not too long ago.

fu*king unfortunate though. We need more info on this

 3 years ago '16        #3
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cops literally have 0 clue on how to deal with somebody with a mental illness. just cause someone isn't "obeying" the officer doesn't mean he's dangerous

when is the police force gonna have a reform

 3 years ago '16        #4
wesleypipes 43 heat pts43
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 3 bs said
cops literally have 0 clue on how to deal with somebody with a mental illness. just cause someone isn't "obeying" the officer doesn't mean he's dangerous

when is the police force gonna have a reform
How to deal with minority

 3 years ago '04        #5
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 3 years ago '11        #6
DoobieSnax213 11 heat pts11
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Another case of negrophobia

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 wesleypipes said
How to deal with minority
they do it to white people too


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The three cops facing a wrongful-death suit in connection with the death of a man with Down syndrome will argue that his death was the result of pre-existing medical conditions, according to filings with the U.S. District Court.
Tell me if youíve heard this one before.
Police approach an individual regarding an extremely trivial matter. When the he doesnít immediately comply with the commands of law enforcement heís taken to the ground and roughed up by numerous cops. In the course of the altercation, the man dies from asphyxiation.
Although this sounds very similar to the manner in which Eric Garner was k*lled by NYPD cops after an altercation about selling single cigarettes, this is actually the case of Ethan Saylor.

Saylor, a 26-year-old with Down syndrome, was at a movie theater with a health care aide watching ďZero Dark Thirty.Ē The movie had finished, but Ethan didnít want to leave the theater after the film ended, hoping to watch it again.
The cinema manager, angry that the mentally-handicapped man didnít quite understand that one ticket is only good for one viewing, called three off-duty-deputies who were moonlighting as security guards. The cops decided to forcibly evict Saylor from the theater, refusing to listen to his aide, who had already contacted Saylorís mother in an effort to defuse the situation.
Instead, as is all too common the case, the cops got violent, taking Saylor to the ground and piling on top of him as they attempted to handcuff him. In the process, this young manís trachea was fractured, and he died of asphyxiation.
The autopsy report indicated that Saylor died from asphyxiation, and had sustained a fracture to his larynx, with the coroner listing his cause of death as homicide.

While Saylorís death was ruled a homicide, an internal ďinvestigationĒ cleared the three officers, Lt. Scott Jewell, Sgt. Rich Rochford and Deputy First Class James Harris, of any wrongdoing. No charges were brought against any of the officers involved in his death.

Much to the dismay of almost everyone involved in the case, a Frederick County grand jury declined to indict the deputies after their review of the case.
After the failure of the state to hold these officers criminally accountable for Saylor death, as is often the case when law enforcement k*lls a citizen, the family filed a wrongful-death suit against the deputies.
According to a report in The Frederick News Post:
In the initial complaint, filed in October 2013, Saylorís family alleged violations of his civil rights and of the Americans with Disabilities Act by the state, county sheriffís deputies and the companies that employed the men as security guards at the Regal Cinemas Westview Stadium 16 theater.
A year later, a federal judge dismissed all of the claims against the theater company, and also dismissed a simple negligence claim against the deputies and a wrongful-death claim against the state.
Claims that the deputies ó Richard Rochford, Scott Jewell and James Harris ó were grossly negligent and that the state failed to train them were allowed to go forward.


While the family is certain that the fractured larynx was a result of the violent altercation, defense attorneys for the cops claimed in their latest court filings that the injuries found on Saylor were from the paramedicís efforts to save his life, and not their brutal attack.

One of the experts identified by the defense was Dr. Jeffrey Fillmore, the emergency department physician who treated Saylor at Frederick Memorial Hospital. According to court filing by the defense, Fillmore would testify that the autopsy and other evidence are not consistent with asphyxia as the cause of Saylorís death.

On Tuesday, attorney for Saylorís family, Joseph Espo, told the AP that his expert witnesses disagree with almost everything in the filing by the deputiesí attorneys. Records indicate that those witnesses include a disabilities expert, a police liabilities expert, a pathologist and another medical doctor.
Perhaps one of the most heartbreaking aspects of this case is the fact that Saylor was an avid fan of law enforcement and was reportedly fascinated by police. Some may argue that the cops did not intend to k*ll Ethan, but the fact that they couldnít de-escalate a simple situation over a movie ticket, and instead resorted to deadly violence speaks to the corrupting sickness that is prevalent in policing today.

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 3 years ago '16        #8
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 3 years ago '11        #9
Lee Wizzle 6 heat pts
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Why shoot him then taze him


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 3 years ago '15        #10
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 datboy|e said

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Yea that looks like suicide by cop

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 Ham Sandwich said
I'm going to give police a pass on this one

For pointing his hands at the officers?

If police can't determine whether or not someone is armed, they need to find another occupation. You can't execute someone just because they "look" like a threat. If he had no weapon, what necessitated the officers having their weapons drawn on him?

 3 years ago '16        #13
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 fdot said
For pointing his hands at the officers?

If police can't determine whether or not someone is armed, they need to find another occupation. You can't execute someone just because they "look" like a threat. If he had no weapon, what necessitated the officers having their weapons drawn on him?
U serious too thats the fu*ked up thing

 3 years ago '11        #14
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I seen that picture too, but they haven't find any weapon on scene. At least yet though.

 3 years ago '11        #15
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 DarkEternalHell said
Let me guess. This African-American man, was just walking down the street. Eating an ice cream cone and minding his own business. When the cops stopped him for no reason. He was respectful and placed his hands behind his head, only to be executed in cold blood
Spoken like a bi*ch n*gga

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 Lee Wizzle said
Why shot him then taze him
this.

 3 years ago '04        #17
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 fdot said
For pointing his hands at the officers?

If police can't determine whether or not someone is armed, they need to find another occupation. You can't execute someone just because they "look" like a threat. If he had no weapon, what necessitated the officers having their weapons drawn on him?
Umm......These cops have been fu*king up on the regular lately but this sh*t right here I have no issue with. I always say "what would I do in that situation?" and if a dude put up his hands like that then you dont have time to wait and see what he has in hands before you react. All guns are not chrome desert eagles that you can make out in a split sec.

 3 years ago '08        #18
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Execute ask questions later...seems like that's the protocol lately

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 fdot said
For pointing his hands at the officers?

If police can't determine whether or not someone is armed, they need to find another occupation. You can't execute someone just because they "look" like a threat. If he had no weapon, what necessitated the officers having their weapons drawn on him?
Because he was endangering others and himself by walking out into traffic and he was not following any orders, you idiot. It was unclear whether or not he was armed but if you reach into your pockets when police are trying to detain you then of course they are going to see it as a threat. How long do you really think it takes to draw your weapon and shoot someone? Have you ever been thoroughly trained with a gun? I consider myself an expert with an M9. I can draw it out of my holster, safety off, punch out and unload in less than a second. I know every single component of that weapon and don't even have to look at it to see where everything is at and there are others that can do the same. If you're still trying to figure out what im reaching for as im reaching for my gun then you're a goner.

 3 years ago '15        #20
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the guy was clearly mentally ill or on some sh*t...no reason to k*ll him, def when his family called the police for help. Looks like he's imitating the cops.

 3 years ago '12        #21
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She's a piece of sh*t for calling police to "help" her brother

They got help for him

 3 years ago '12        #22
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 Ham Sandwich said
ur an idiot

If that is a gun then the police officer is dead

In this situation They don't have the time to decide
Thats why police officers are, supposed to be, considered heros though. Because they, in theory, take that risk. Yes, in a split second an officer can be k*lled, but thats the job they chose. Thats why theyre respected, thats why theyre an authority. Because, again in theory, a police officer is a person of a higher moral character than the average citizen, therefore must be held to a higher standard. No one is forced to be a cop, that was their choice. A hero is someone who sacrifices for others, not someone who k*lls because they want to see another day.

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 Mattaveli said
Thats why police officers are, supposed to be, considered heros though. Because they, in theory, take that risk. Yes, in a split second an officer can be k*lled, but thats the job they chose. Thats why theyre respected, thats why theyre an authority. Because, again in theory, a police officer is a person of a higher moral character than the average citizen, therefore must be held to a higher standard. No one is forced to be a cop, that was their choice. A hero is someone who sacrifices for others, not someone who k*lls because they want to see another day.

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All you agreeing are stupid... 1 cop used the right technique by TASING HIM the other k*lled him.... How can you agree with k*lling a handicap?

 3 years ago '15        #25
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the logic in these threads are priceless


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