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 08-08-2013, 06:17 AM         #41
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 Impeccable said:

You just proved you don't know sht about economics.

1. It's irrelevant about how hard the job is. That doesn't determine the salary. That's still subjective.

2. How does economics brainwash our society?

Why don't we stop at 100 an hour? They work hard enough. Oh my gosh, being a cashier takes up so much effort. I need 1k an hour
When your speaking on economics (which asking for better pay HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH) perhaps you should stop asking open ended questions that don't have sh*t to do with sh*t. And in reality since your supposedly a economic specialist.........check out this information below.........its not a hand out, its not charity, the amount they are requesting is about right...........but keep in mind all other industries should be paying more also...........

The distribution of income in the United States has been the subject of study by scholars and institutions. Data from a number of sources[1] indicate that income inequality has grown significantly since the early 1970s,[2][3][4][5][6] after several decades of stability.[7][8] While inequality has risen among most developed countries, and especially English-speaking ones, it is highest in the United States.[9][10][11]

Studies indicate the source of the widening gap (sometimes called the Great Divergence) has not been gender inequality, which has declined in the US over the last several decades,[12] nor inequality between black and white Americans, which has stagnated during that time,[13] nor has the gap between the poor and middle class been the major cause—though it has grown.[14] Most of the growth has been between the middle class and top earners, with the disparity becoming more extreme the further one goes up in the income distribution.[15] Upward redistribution of income is responsible for about 43% of the projected Social Security shortfall over the next 75 years.[16] The Brookings Institution said in 2013 that income inequality was increasing and becoming permanent, reducing social mobility in the US.[17]

A 2011 study by the CBO[18] found that the top earning 1 percent of households gained about 275% after federal taxes and income transfers over a period between 1979 and 2007, compared to a gain of just under 40% for the 60 percent in the middle of America's income distribution.[18] Other sources find that the trend has continued since then.[19] In spite of this data, only 42% of Americans think inequality has increased in the past ten years.[20] Income inequality is not uniform among the states; as measured by the Gini coefficient: after tax income inequality in 2009 was greatest in Texas and lowest in Maine.[21]

Scholars and others differ as to the causes, solutions, and the significance of the trend,[22] which in 2011 helped ignite the "Occupy" protest movement. Education and increased demand for skilled labor are often cited as causes,[23] some have emphasized the importance of public policy; others believe the cause(s) of inequality's rise are not well understood.[18] Inequality has been described both as irrelevant in the face of economic opportunity (or social mobility) in America, and as a cause of the decline in that opportunity.[24][25]



Some of you people really need to stop with this snobbish attitude. America could use a face lift, and starting by paying people what they are worth would be a great help. And who cares what someones back ground is..........they STILL DESERVE TO LIVE.......ol judgemental f*ggots................
 4 years ago '06        #42
RAZAH CUTS 5835 heat pts5835
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 TheMindOf said:
Don't let the propaganda fool you. Do some research on the cost of living out there. You'll see that it all evens out.
I actually have a friend who lives out there.. It's not as much propaganda so much as it is their govt just coming to the realization faster that even ppl at the lower end of the employment section need a wage that is fair to get by.
 4 years ago '07        #43
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 TheMindOf said:
McDonalds wages aint supposed to be crazy high.

It's supposed to be pocket change for Teenagers before they move on to the next point in their life.

sh*t is not supposed to be a career. If you've put yourself in the position where McDonalds is the only career path you have, then it sucks for you.

The same way how low income housing aint supposed to be mansions. Cuz it aint where you're supposed to intend to live forever.

It's supposed to be a temporary stop, while you get on your feet.


People got sh*t all fu*ked up
so if teenagers go to school during the day,,,who keeps them open during those hours??

Some people have made mistakes that our society will hold against them for the rest of their lives..so options become limited. You can't blame a person for working ANY job...doesnt make any one better than one another. And how would you pick yourself up and get on ya feet with $chitt wages?
 08-08-2013, 09:10 AM         #44
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 Damagegadget said:
so if teenagers go to school during the day,,,who keeps them open during those hours??

Some people have made mistakes that our society will hold against them for the rest of their lives..so options become limited. You can't blame a person for working ANY job...doesnt make any one better than one another. And how would you pick yourself up and get on ya feet with $chitt wages?
Dude lives in a fairytale world..........he thinks everyboyd should abide by these laws of mary poppins movies and sh*t. Real life doesn't allow everyone to walk the same path......and there is no one size fits all solution...increasing their pay is just part of the problem
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Keep in mind Australia's cost of living is high af...
 4 years ago '08        #46
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I say go for it....and done of y'all need to stop being crybabies cuz mcd workers will eventually make more than u. Yall want everyone to suffer like you did. Let the youth live
 4 years ago '10        #47
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my only problem with raising minimum wage is it doesnt mean ppl that have salary jobs at other jobs will get an increase as well so what makes them want to go to college or work at a shirt and tie job when they could go make the same or a buck less an hour with the option of overtime at a fast food joint?


i agree it should be higher since the cost of living is much higher but there would have to be a guidline where every job gets a certain percentage raise to even it out.
 08-08-2013, 09:35 AM         #48
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 UcantCme said:
my only problem with raising minimum wage is it doesnt mean ppl that have salary jobs at other jobs will get an increase as well so what makes them want to go to college or work at a shirt and tie job when they could go make the same or a buck less an hour with the option of overtime at a fast food joint?


i agree it should be higher since the cost of living is much higher but there would have to be a guidline where every job gets a certain percentage raise to even it out.
This I agree with, with the exception of college......look college has it benefits, but as of lately the only people who benefit are the boards who run the colleges......not the students, and certainly not the work field.
 4 years ago '10        #49
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 Dos-effect said:
This I agree with, with the exception of college......look college has it benefits, but as of lately the only people who benefit are the boards who run the colleges......not the students, and certainly not the work field.
alot of jobs nowadays wont even consider you if you dont have that slip of paper tho. thats moreso what i meant.


think about it: if i know i can go make $15 an hour at mcdonalds starting off, whats the point of going to college for atleast 4 years and taking a entry level position at a credited job for $16 a hour but yet have thousands of dollars to pay back for my schooling.


thats the thing that pisses me off when i hear ppl complain about minimum wage. yes you arent getting paid what you probably deserve, but who does?! I work at a well established company but dont get paid nearly what i think im worth and for some ppl to think minimum wage should be worth $15 an hour and knowing that wont give me a raise but yet be making the same thing as the guy that handed me my breakfast is beyond frustrating.

thats the easiest solution.....they want minimum wage to be higher like $15 an hour......then find out what percentage raise that is from where minimum wage is now and give that percentage across the board to every job in the US.
 08-08-2013, 10:57 AM         #50
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 UcantCme said:
alot of jobs nowadays wont even consider you if you dont have that slip of paper tho. thats moreso what i meant.


think about it: if i know i can go make $15 an hour at mcdonalds starting off, whats the point of going to college for atleast 4 years and taking a entry level position at a credited job for $16 a hour but yet have thousands of dollars to pay back for my schooling.


thats the thing that pisses me off when i hear ppl complain about minimum wage. yes you arent getting paid what you probably deserve, but who does?! I work at a well established company but dont get paid nearly what i think im worth and for some ppl to think minimum wage should be worth $15 an hour and knowing that wont give me a raise but yet be making the same thing as the guy that handed me my breakfast is beyond frustrating.

thats the easiest solution.....they want minimum wage to be higher like $15 an hour......then find out what percentage raise that is from where minimum wage is now and give that percentage across the board to every job in the US.

The problem is these peoel who feel they can determine what certain people deserve, which usualy equates to those same people feeling they deserve more based on their "hardships" and others deserving less based on thier "decisions in life" its all selfish bullsh*t.....the dollar and economics is a human concept, created and molded by us.....people get confused and start thinking money it this uncontrollable entity that shall not be persecuted or changed or the whole system will collapse......its ludacris.......the rich keeps getting richer because they basically get skimming off the top while taking from the bottom.......its not about what it could mean to the economy......especially if we just start paying people what they are worth and what they need survive...the ecomony would see huge spikes in sales and spending...........but people want to or feel like they need to protect the rich....or the wanna be rich.....as if they are some holy grail of America......we need to evaluate our job market if anyone is serioulsy endorsing someone surviving on $7 dollars an hour they need to get off the sh*t.......especially when we all know fast food job potentially is one of the hardest and busiest jobs out there......and this is coming from a man who has done everything from flip burgers.......to running a cleaning service.......to working customer service in call centers...........fast food is still one of the craziest jobs Iv'e ever worked......I remember nights where we had screens and screens of order that went back at least 5 pages......order just kept coming in......and employees were just walking out left and right because we were too busy......this was high school though........


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 4 years ago '05        #51
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this doesn't mean anything, 15 an hour in AUS is the equivalent to minimum wage.
 4 years ago '05        #52
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 TheMindOf said:
This guy...

Miss me with the self righteous sob story. I got parents who came to this country with nothing and worked sh*t jobs for years.

When one job wasn't paying enough, they got another one. Not one to replace the first job at a higher wage, but another job to supplement the first one.

Both my parents worked 2 full time sh*t jobs each in this country (Maid, factory work, cleaning this and that) until Me and my siblings were able to become teenagers and get our own money and buy our own sh*t (which we did).

They both OWN their own Houses (cuz they divorced now). Own their own cars and living comfortable now.

The aint have no criminal records, nothing like that. They just came to this country and had to work hard or be homeless. No inbetween. Neither of them EVER went on welfare or a.ssistance (cuz African folks look down on that sh*t). Never lived low income housing. None of that.

So, No I dont believe people who had all the opportunities in this country but chose to PUT THEMSELVES in a position where they gotta work at McDonalds forever should be making as much as a Registered Nurse

Thats not a good enough reason for a McDonalds employee to be making the same amount as somebody who did everything right in life. Then where's the incentive for people to do well for themselves?

Who gon wanna go to school or act right if they can do all type of fu*k sh*t and McDonalds is the fallback plan because they gon pay $20/hr anyway.

Don't mean to sound harsh but McDonalds aint payin enough, Apply for a second job at the Wendy's across the street. Lord forbid people should have to work a little harder
to believe in and living the American Dream all your posts seem bitter as fu*k
 4 years ago '10        #53
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 chi town hustla said:
to believe in and living the American Dream all your posts seem bitter as fu*k
n*gga. Im chillin. Living good

sh*t dont affect me.

1) I dont eat fast food cuz my girl is a vegetarian (which pretty much makes me one)

2) I never put myself in a position where I had to worry about wages at a burger flipping joint.


n*ggas gotta just chalk it up to the game. You tell kids at a young age that life is about choices.

Make the right ones and you can be a Lawyer or Doctor and live good FOREVER. Make the wrong ones and you will suffer your whole life.

It's not like it wasn't already known. When people was doing the things that ended them up at McDonalds with NO other options, that should have been a thought on their mind.

Sounds harsh, but it is what it is. It's all in the game

Im not gonna tell a private corporation how much to pay their employees.

Also, fu*k yall coming at McDonalds for? If yall so serious, why aint y'all writing letters to your congressmen about having the minimum wage raised in your state? Or starting petitions for these people yall care so deeply about.
 4 years ago '10        #54
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 Dos-effect said:
The problem is these peoel who feel they can determine what certain people deserve, which usualy equates to those same people feeling they deserve more based on their "hardships" and others deserving less based on thier "decisions in life" its all selfish bullsh*t.....the dollar and economics is a human concept, created and molded by us.....people get confused and start thinking money it this uncontrollable entity that shall not be persecuted or changed or the whole system will collapse......its ludacris.......the rich keeps getting richer because they basically get skimming off the top while taking from the bottom.......its not about what it could mean to the economy......especially if we just start paying people what they are worth and what they need survive...the ecomony would see huge spikes in sales and spending...........but people want to or feel like they need to protect the rich....or the wanna be rich.....as if they are some holy grail of America......we need to evaluate our job market if anyone is serioulsy endorsing someone surviving on $7 dollars an hour they need to get off the sh*t.......especially when we all know fast food job potentially is one of the hardest and busiest jobs out there......and this is coming from a man who has done everything from flip burgers.......to running a cleaning service.......to working customer service in call centers...........fast food is still one of the craziest jobs Iv'e ever worked......I remember nights where we had screens and screens of order that went back at least 5 pages......order just kept coming in......and employees were just walking out left and right because we were too busy......this was high school though........

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 regulate said:
Duuude you're like almost there but haven't quite reached the logic yet. Think about it. If demand for suit & tie jobs go down due to minimum wage going up, then that would FORCE companies to pay higher salaries to get people to want to attain a college degree and to want those jobs again. Simple supply & demand. Mcdonald's workers being paid more would ultimately increase pay all across the work force. Like a trickle up effect. It simply would have to. THAT'S ECONOMICS.
yea i get that, i was just stating a fact of how it "should" be. like i remember last time here in nc, the minimum wage amount went up and i know for sure i didnt get a raise. Im just saying that someone that gets a job that doesnt require skills or a trade shouldnt be on or damn near the same pay grade as someone that has worked for their job.


ya i know we are both basically on the same page here, i just had to get that out.
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 regulate said:
Duuude you're like almost there but haven't quite reached the logic yet. Think about it. If demand for suit & tie jobs go down due to minimum wage going up, then that would FORCE companies to pay higher salaries to get people to want to attain a college degree and to want those jobs again. Simple supply & demand. Mcdonald's workers being paid more would ultimately increase pay all across the work force. Like a trickle up effect. It simply would have to. THAT'S ECONOMICS.
You hit it perfectly.

I would imagine though that if a huge raise in minimum wage ever does happen, there'll be a pretty long transitional phase to allow companies to conform.
 4 years ago '13        #56
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n*ggas really don't understand the affects of minimum wage
 4 years ago '13        #57
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 Dos-effect said:
Why not? They work hard, often times having to work from the time they get there to the time they leave. I mean if you have ever worked a real job and I mean a real job, then you would know that most times the lowest paying jobs are the jobs where the employees have to work the hardest.......this has nothing to do with economics or the brainwashed bullsh*t they preach in our society. When it comes down to it the grill worker at McDonalds works just as hard if not harder than the CEO of McDonalds.......but we are not talking about compensation for hard work.......we are talking about class warfare aren't we. It has nothing nothing to do to with the actual complexity of the job, but more so the status of what the job represents. And of course McDonalds is at the bottom of the totem pole so those people don't deserve to get more pay.



you can't fault someone that works hard just because you consider what they do to be socially below you. Mcdonald's is one of the most iconic and profitable corporations on this earth, it should be a privilege to work there and workers should be compensated accordingly. Yeah they may sell cheap food, but guess what, they were one of the pioneers of global marketing and one of the few products that literally exists in every country on the planet. And its not like they dont know that, in countries where the government actually protects its citizen's rights, they have no problem paying fair wages and still turning a huge profit.

Corporations that rake in massive profits while treating their employees like sh*t are actually BAD for the world.

I don't think anyone in this thread would deny that Wal-Mart is actually doing much more harm than good on this planet....... yet you argue in favor of other companies adopting those types of policies.
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Here's what would happen if they were "forced" to raise their wages.

All they would do is just fire a bunch of people and double the workload of the people who still work there.

The one rule is business is that the SHAREHOLDERS (above all) always win.

Reminds me of when I worked for Bank of America from 2009-2011 (when all the regulating was still going on and they started losing profits)

2 Things happened.

1) The cost were passed down to the customer (sneaky new fees, surcharges etc)

2) They cut a bunch of jobs and just doubled everybody's workload at the same pay rate and told us to be "glad that you have a job in these tough economic times"


Yall the ones who gon be mad when they raise wages over there then You gotta pay 0.50 cents for extra catchup and gotta pay for extra napkins
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chi town hustla 194 heat pts194
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 TheMindOf said:
n*gga. Im chillin. Living good

sh*t dont affect me.

1) I dont eat fast food cuz my girl is a vegetarian (which pretty much makes me one)

2) I never put myself in a position where I had to worry about wages at a burger flipping joint.


n*ggas gotta just chalk it up to the game. You tell kids at a young age that life is about choices.

Make the right ones and you can be a Lawyer or Doctor and live good FOREVER. Make the wrong ones and you will suffer your whole life.

It's not like it wasn't already known. When people was doing the things that ended them up at McDonalds with NO other options, that should have been a thought on their mind.

Sounds harsh, but it is what it is. It's all in the game

Im not gonna tell a private corporation how much to pay their employees.

Also, fu*k yall coming at McDonalds for? If yall so serious, why aint y'all writing letters to your congressmen about having the minimum wage raised in your state? Or starting petitions for these people yall care so deeply about.
first off I aint ya n*gga miss me with that bs

from my experience in life somebody that is living that good life don't have to always express how they are living that good life.........

example nobody asked about your girl being a vegetarian you could just said you were a vegetarian

just little things like that make it seem like you fronting
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