Cam or Kaepernick?

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Cam 142 57.26%
Kaepernick 106 42.74%
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 5 years ago '12        #161
fcm415 
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 Maroon_Tiger said:
kaep excells because of his team alot... if dude played in carolina, with no running backs, only one wr... terrible defense... dude wouldnt snif the playoffs..

it works well in SF b/c kaep has good wrs.. a great TE, and a beast in frank gore... his defense is top 3 in the league...

kaep is nice... dont get me wrong but cam on a good team would prolly go to a superbowl now
Yet Kaepernick's SuperBowl appearance and 10 games played in the league is greater than Cam's 2 seasons playing in a division that doesn't play defense.

Like I said... All you got is if Kaep this and if Cam that. Kaep played big under the big lights of the playoffs, Cam QB'd all 16 games twice and couldn't reach .500. Luck had a 2-14 team, RG3's Redskins weren't all that good the year before and they did what Cam hasn't yet done. Win.
 5 years ago '12        #162
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So let me get this straight, Cam's the pick because of his potential to win even though he hasn't

Winning > Potential

2nd round pick noone wanted, and still being doubted. Chip on his shoulder should keep him hungry
 5 years ago '04        #163
ghettofied 357 heat pts357
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 fcm415 said:
So let me get this straight, Cam's the pick because of his potential to win even though he hasn't

Winning > Potential

2nd round pick noone wanted, and still being doubted. Chip on his shoulder should keep him hungry
Poll says otherwise.
 07-31-2013, 05:58 AM         #164
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 fcm415 said:
Kaep has a SuperBowl team because HE took them there as the QB.

Luck led a 2-11 team to the playoffs, it can be done... What exactly has Cam done that makes him that much better than Kaep? 1st overall pick and all the hype and he's not even a .500 record QB.

I'm not really out to sh*t on Cam but people like to knock on Kaep for things that neither QB has control over. Kaep played good enough to be MVP of those playoff games to get to the SuperBowl and he damn near brought the trophy home with that near comeback.

Cam played more games, I give him that... Does his division even play defense?
Because he took them there? So was Alex Smith a top 3 qb in the nfc since he took them to the nfc championship game and kyle bungled the game away???
 5 years ago '08        #165
VerbalAssassin 105 heat pts105
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 Tha Problum said:
Because he took them there? So was Alex Smith a top 3 qb in the nfc since he took them to the nfc championship game and kyle bungled the game away???
Same argument can be made for Brady since that 2001-2005 defense got him there

...and Vinatieri copped him 2 rings.
 5 years ago '04        #166
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 VerbalAssassin said:
Same argument can be made for Brady since that 2001-2005 defense got him there

...and Vinatieri copped him 2 rings.
NOOOOOOOOOO, no.
 07-31-2013, 07:20 AM         #167
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 VerbalAssassin said:
Same argument can be made for Brady since that 2001-2005 defense got him there

...and Vinatieri copped him 2 rings.
When in doubt, change the argument. We had a pro bowl qb veteran qb that won the afc 6 or so years prior, and despite that we were losing games fast before tom came in. Quite the opposite situation.

& Adam is the goat kicker
 5 years ago '04        #168
djinferno 1 heat pts
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Cam is better imo
 5 years ago '07        #169
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The teams they play for right now, doesn't even apply to the question . Kaep also needs to play a full season anyway.
 5 years ago '12        #170
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All the people saying Kaep's situation shouldn't matter:

2012

Alex Smith 104 QB rating
Kaepernick 98 QB rating

In 2011 Smith was a couple of plays from making the super bowl, in 2012 the 49ers were a play away from NOT making the Super Bowl.

So Kaepernick is really just a couple plays better than Alex Smith's bum a.ss.
 5 years ago '06        #171
Kjizzle03 38 heat pts38
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 ScroogeMcDuck said:
All the people saying Kaep's situation shouldn't matter:

2012

Alex Smith 104 QB rating
Kaepernick 98 QB rating

In 2011 Smith was a couple of plays from making the super bowl, in 2012 the 49ers were a play away from NOT making the Super Bowl.

So Kaepernick is really just a couple plays better than Alex Smith's bum a.ss.
all that said how close has Cam been to a Super Bowl




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 5 years ago '05        #172
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 fcm415 said:
So let me get this straight, Cam's the pick because of his potential to win even though he hasn't

Winning > Potential

2nd round pick noone wanted, and still being doubted. Chip on his shoulder should keep him hungry
2nd round pick nobody wanted?.....You stupid as fu*k I can understand if he was a 7th round pick or undrafted but 2nd round pick?....n*ggas and they overhyping....
 5 years ago '09        #173
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 CM Punk said:
imagine k!lla on the Niners
 5 years ago '08        #174
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 Kjizzle03 said:
all that said how close has Cam been to a Super Bowl
Cam riders are just salty that the talk of the '11 QB class is no longer him. Biggest factor for me between Cam and Kaep on the field is maturity in the face of adversity.

Examples:

Cam vs. the Giants
Kaep vs. the Falcons

Cam was acting all sorts of a brat sulking and keeping to himself and while they're getting blown out by NYG, he scores a TD and celebrates it like they're the ones winning.

To me, while Cam has talent (nobody denies that), he's got that frontrunner mentality.
 5 years ago '04        #175
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 VerbalAssassin said:
Cam riders are just salty that the talk of the '11 QB class is no longer him. Biggest factor for me between Cam and Kaep on the field is maturity in the face of adversity.

Examples:

Cam vs. the Giants
Kaep vs. the Falcons

Cam was acting all sorts of a brat sulking and keeping to himself and while they're getting blown out by NYG, he scores a TD and celebrates it like they're the ones winning.

To me, while Cam has talent (nobody denies that), he's got that frontrunner mentality.
You do know you're comparing a game in week 3 to the NFC Championship right?
 5 years ago '08        #176
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 ghettofied said:
You do know you're comparing a game in week 3 to the NFC Championship right?
And? Were they preseason games? Tell me Kaep's demeanor in week 16 vs. Seattle. Was he sulking on the sidelines like a brat? Was he celebrating TDs in garbage time like it's all about him?

Please, answer that for me since you felt I was being unfair using a postseason game as an example.
 5 years ago '08        #177
VerbalAssassin 105 heat pts105
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 djinferno said:
Cam is better imo
All I read from this post:


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 5 years ago '04        #178
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 VerbalAssassin said:
And? Were they preseason games? Tell me Kaep's demeanor in week 16 vs. Seattle. Was he sulking on the sidelines like a brat? Was he celebrating TDs in garbage time like it's all about him?

Please, answer that for me since you felt I was being unfair using a postseason game as an example.
Neither was Cam. He got hurt in Week 17, which looked like a brutal injury. Came back after two plays off, and lead his team to the victory. Guess everybody forgets that though right . You're comparing once again, an a.ss raping of bibical proportions........to a game the 9ers were in the whole time. Not a fair comparison, lets also forget Alex Smith's sorry a.ss was leading the 9ers at that time too.
 5 years ago '04        #179
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Either way, 108-81. BX has spoken.
 5 years ago '08        #180
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 ghettofied said:
Neither was Cam. He got hurt in Week 17, which looked like a brutal injury. Came back after two plays off, and lead his team to the victory. Guess everybody forgets that though right . You're comparing once again, an a.ss raping of bibical proportions........to a game the 9ers were in the whole time. Not a fair comparison, lets also forget Alex Smith's sorry a.ss was leading the 9ers at that time too.
Couldn't have been that brutal coming back after 2 plays. Guess you missed my second post. I compared Cam's demeanor in the blowout loss vs. NYG and asked you to tell me Kaep's demeanor in the blowout loss vs. SEA. But nice of you to duck my a.ssessment of Cam's frontrunning a.ss.


Oh and that "Sorry a.ss" Alex Smith suffered a legit concussion and with blurry vision led the team downfield for a TD score. It didn't "look like a brutal injury," it was one.
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