90's Hip Hop Rd. 2, East: #1: Illmatic (NaS) vs. #8: Reasonable Doubt (Jay-Z)

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Which is the better album?
#1: Illmatic - NaS 315 73.09%
#8: Reasonable Doubt - Jay-Z 116 26.91%
Voters: 431. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 5 years ago '10        #141
Hovi Bryant 676 heat pts676
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RD is my sh*t, but Illmatic... That album speaks to my soul.
 5 years ago '04        #142
silentmurder2 1 heat pts
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 dopemental said:
I voted Ill, but both of those albums are the most overrated joints of all time. They both aged horribly . In before some dummy comes and say w/e, understand i didn't just say they aged . I said they AGED HORRIBLY.
Either you like early 90's rap or you don't. It's that simple. No true hip-hop fan with any sense of history or context would ever call these albums overrated. The truth is that you were probably 2 Years old when RD dropped. It's like someone criticizing The Beatles early albums. Recording techniques, sound quality, and styles change over time, but classic material doesn't "age horribly" if you actually enjoy the music. You clearly don't, but you're in this thread anyway.
 5 years ago '10        #143
VeX 
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easy...
 5 years ago '11        #144
DesolateOne 32 heat pts32
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 Giovanni Cassa said:
HOV LOSTTT!!! Double triple entendre don't even ask me how! LMAO! No impact, no influnece!

These last few days convinced me that camel stans are the worst!!! Worse than Eminem's legion of wiggers and emo f*gs! All 3 Pac albums barely got 185 votes combined, with all the stans on here and whatnot!!! Reasonable Doubt got 171 votes and some people have the nerve to say he doesn't have stans here!!! I'd shank you mental midgets! At least I know OB4CL got votes because it's a classic album. Stannery aside OB4CL got the most votes out of all the albums presented here, so there you have it: OB4CL GREATEST RAP ALBUM OF ALL TIME!

Reasonable Doubt beat OB4CL!!! BLASPHEMOUS!!! YOU CAMELS DON'T DESERVE HIP-HOP!!!

Hov's demographic:



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Jay fans, N'Sync fans. Same sh*t lol! No wonder Hov decided to capitalize on that by doing songs & tours with Justin Timberlake. And that whiny man-bi*ch from Coldplay!



I wish Eminem albums were somehow a part of these threads so his stans would battle with Jay-Z stans. You can only f!ght fire with fire lol!

So true, haha!



Why that n*gga laugh like that though?

 silentmurder2 said:
I know I phrased that like a question but let me be clear, Halftime is better than Cashmere Thoughts. Cashmere Thoughts is the most forgettable track on RD, Halftime was a hit 2 years before Illmatic even dropped.

Nas recorded it in 1992 and it's still lyrically better than Cashmere, which Jay recorded in 1995-96. The production isn't even comparable with Halftime being one of the most recognizable beats in hip-hop history, and Cashmere Thoughts being a Clark Kent throwaway.

So fu*k yes, it's better.
It must be hard to appreciate the songs if your were not old enough to have lived through the time it came out. I remember seeing the vinyl single as a song to Zebrahead and recognized the rappers name as someone I had been fiending to come out with a record, I was sooo suped! That summer, this song got mad play all day long, no question. It was kinda like a theme song for me.
 5 years ago '11        #145
DesolateOne 32 heat pts32
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We say "He got ethered", not, "He got Takeovered or Superuglied".

When we cite an album as a classic, we tend to say things like, "It's his Illmatic", not, "He just made a Reasonable Doubt".

Jay stays losing to Nas

 5 years ago '13        #146
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Yea it was written needs to be in this thread somewhere , production wise still sounds good, I think illmatic is slightly better but sounds dated , but iww> ill is a legit argument
 5 years ago '09        #147
bigscore 1690 heat pts1690
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Nasir....
 5 years ago '11        #148
Giovanni Cassa 48 heat pts48
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 DesolateOne said:
We say "He got ethered", not, "He got Takeovered or Superuglied".

When we cite an album as a classic, we tend to say things like, "It's his Illmatic", not, "He just made a Reasonable Doubt".

Jay stays losing to Nas


And we also say RENEGADED!!!













Another camel shaped L for the history books!
 5 years ago '05        #149
katalist 231 heat pts231
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Got a few suggestions for this for the westcoast part..


- Above The Law - Uncle Sams Curse
- DIgital Underground - s3x Packets
- Hieroglyphics - 3rd Eye Vision
- The Click - Game Related
- Comptons Most Wanted - Music To Driveby
- IMP - Ill Mannered Playas
- Dru Down - Can You Feel Me
- Mac Dre - Young Black Brotha
- RBL Posse - Ruthless By Law
- C-bo - Till My Casket Drops


Those are all classics that should be up


Last edited by katalist; 07-23-2013 at 01:43 PM..
 5 years ago '10        #150
alogan9225 82 heat pts82 OP
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 katalist said:
Got a few suggestions for this for the westcoast part..


- Above The Law - Uncle Sams Curse
- DIgital Underground - s3x Packets
- Hieroglyphics - 3rd Eye Vision
- The Click - Game Related
- Comptons Most Wanted - Music To Driveby
- IMP - Ill Mannered Playas
- Dru Down - Can You Feel Me
- Mac Dre - Young Black Brotha
- RBL Posse - Ruthless By Law
- C-bo - Till My Casket Drops


Those are all classics that should be up
Ahhh I've already put the West Coast ones up lol

But good suggestions though... I liked C-Bo's and Above the Laws... can't say I've ever been interested to hear RBL Posse's album, but I'll take a listen for sure
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