90's Hip Hop Rd. 2, East: #1: Illmatic (NaS) vs. #8: Reasonable Doubt (Jay-Z)

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Which is the better album?
#1: Illmatic - NaS 315 73.09%
#8: Reasonable Doubt - Jay-Z 116 26.91%
Voters: 431. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 4 years ago '12        #121
5E8FW 
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 1-MC said:
Are you fu*king kidding me?
Guess you haven't heard of, Gangstarr.
And how the fu*k did Reasonable Doubt beat Only Built 4 Cuban Linx?
That's what I'm screaming. Premo has tons of incredible tracks. He'll, 'A Million and 1' is messing with those tracks easily. That's how you know people are desperate to supplement their arguments. Saying some silly sh*t like that.
 4 years ago '11        #122
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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Illmatic easily
 4 years ago '04        #123
ess ell 
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I am a bigger fan of Jay-Z than Nas honestly, still I gotta go with Illmatic.
 4 years ago '11        #124
ChickBoss414 27 heat pts27
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-- 2 all that voted for Illmatic!!!



























 07-22-2013, 10:49 PM         #125
Verbal.JWK 
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MCHG > Illmatic
 07-22-2013, 10:51 PM         #126
bigbarcelona 
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 1-MC said:
Are you fu*king kidding me?
Guess you haven't heard of, Gangstarr.
And how the fu*k did Reasonable Doubt beat Only Built 4 Cuban Linx?
That sh*t is ridiculous! Criminology Rap along sh*ts on the entire RD album, except Brooklyn Finest.

Talk about getting that one wrong, along with Low End Theory losing out to Midnight Marauders.
 4 years ago '04        #127
Dash420 21 heat pts21
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illmatic even tho i love reasonable doubt and i probably bump it more than illmatic (iww > both of them)













i wonder if yall gonna throw miseducation of lauryn hill up there ???
 07-22-2013, 11:04 PM         #128
bigbarcelona 
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 Dash420 said:
illmatic even tho i love reasonable doubt and i probably bump it more than illmatic (iww > both of them)













i wonder if yall gonna throw miseducation of lauryn hill up there ???

 4 years ago '04        #129
Young_Deezy 
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Wait only buit for cuban linx lost to reasonable doubt................close thread

Yall don't remember hot 97 battle of the beats. New age dudes haaa
 4 years ago '04        #130
Dash420 21 heat pts21
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 Verbal.JWK said:
MCHG > Illmatic
yeah...okay n*gga
 07-22-2013, 11:46 PM         #131
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 Dash420 said:
yeah...okay n*gga
?? what? You gon tell me Im wrong?
 4 years ago '04        #132
Tic Toc 7 heat pts
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Not even a debate....Illmatic all the way

HOLD UP HOW DIDN'T THE SCORE GET A RANKING???
 4 years ago '07        #133
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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 Giovanni Cassa said:
I don't know either. Even the pic for this thread is the OB4CL cover.
I just peeped that
 4 years ago '04        #134
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 Nickel said:
Seeing as I for one have always liked "It Was Written" over "Illmatic" you can see where I'm going with this....call it what you want
I'm always surprised more people don't feel ^^^^ this way. It Was Written, was just special. So much thoughts behind it
 4 years ago '06        #135
hollyfield420 23 heat pts23
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 bigbarcelona said:
And I can't believe Midnight Marauders won over Low End Theory.
I think marauders is a more solid album personally
 4 years ago '13        #136
SWAYYZE 20 heat pts20
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I voted Ill, but both of those albums are the most overrated joints of all time. They both aged horribly . In before some dummy comes and say w/e, understand i didn't just say they aged . I said they AGED HORRIBLY.
 4 years ago '05        #137
WCIB 111 heat pts111
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This is destruction on a level I didn't think was possible on here.
 07-23-2013, 07:25 AM         #138
Vincent Vega 
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I'm still mad ob4cl lost to fu*kin rd.....but it is what it is, new jack city around here....oh illmatic>>>it was written
 4 years ago '12        #139
Mr Fujaveli 36 heat pts36
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 WCIB said:
This is destruction on a level I didn't think was possible on here.
and well deserved
 4 years ago '07        #140
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 Analytical One said:
Reasonable Doubt. Superior lyricism & rapping, and the soul-inspired production will never sound dated like the production on Illmatic.

Premier produced his greatest beats of all time on Reasonable Doubt.

The most recited and popular verse on Illmatic was AZ's verse, and it's nowhere near that of B.I.G.'s verse on "Brooklyn's Finest".

Comparing the lyricism, whether that be rhyme schemes, metaphors, entendres or imagery--Reasonable Doubt simply exceeds Illmatic.
First off,
Here's a few things to take into consideration:

Jays album was heavily jazz inspired. Blueprint was more of the "soul" album. Nas did have the harder album of the two sonically and impact-wise.

u gotta be kidding me bruh. AZ's verse on "Life's a bi*ch" IS one of the greatest verses of ALL TIME HANDS DOWN!! #factsonly

We're comparing a kid in his late teens/early 20s 1st album to a man, who at the time, approaching his 30s 1st album, that took his "whole life to make" (jay still says this). 2 albums with 2 totally different experiences.

I was just bumping RD a couple days ago. I love that album. Great for smoking with ya chick and vibing out to. Plus I can relate to it more these days than I did when it first dropped.

Illmatic is a young mans album with amazing lyricism and story telling that kids like me at the time were twisting our minds over, because we never heard sh*t like that before...


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