90's Hip Hop Rd. 2, East: #1: Illmatic (NaS) vs. #8: Reasonable Doubt (Jay-Z)

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Which is the better album?
#1: Illmatic - NaS 315 73.09%
#8: Reasonable Doubt - Jay-Z 116 26.91%
Voters: 431. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 5 years ago '09        #81
messy marv stan 4696 heat pts4696
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both cd suck
 5 years ago '05        #82
JuiceDigaho 
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I might be in the minority on this but I listen to RD a lot more often than IllMatic


Can I live?
 5 years ago '05        #83
FlamboyantOne 1 heat pts
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 ByrdManJR. said:
oh boy...


I ain't afraid to say it so Resonable Doubt IS A BETTER ALBUM than Illmatic...
Illmatic might of had the bigger impact but reason doubt is a BETTER ALBUM



THERE I SAID IT!!!


Nas is that dude....but this album is overrated. Folks see the name, and like....Oh snap.....old heads say this is a classic....so it must be
 5 years ago '11        #84
Giovanni Cassa 48 heat pts48
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 KnicksLost said:
Goat album period....Dont even know how RD made it by OBCL

I don't know either. Even the pic for this thread is the OB4CL cover.
 5 years ago '05        #85
ebcrew 2 heat pts
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 Ghost Writer said:
RD but Ill will win (double entendre don't ask me how...)
my exact words
 5 years ago '10        #86
Mocking Mind 2 heat pts
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@ those poll numbers.



Feel bad for the Jay stans. They were just feeling themselves after that win over Cuban Linx and now this .


It's a cold cold world



Meanwhile, Illmatic about to go all the way
 5 years ago '13        #87
HipHopFactz 452 heat pts452
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Is IWW in this tourney?

IWW>>Illmatic

I been said this for years
 5 years ago '12        #88
diggins1272 
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Illmatic although reasonalble doubt had some hits
 5 years ago '12        #89
ThePainkiller 356 heat pts356
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It was written
 5 years ago '04        #90
silentmurder2 1 heat pts
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 Nickel said:
fu*k no
I know I phrased that like a question but let me be clear, Halftime is better than Cashmere Thoughts. Cashmere Thoughts is the most forgettable track on RD, Halftime was a hit 2 years before Illmatic even dropped.

Nas recorded it in 1992 and it's still lyrically better than Cashmere, which Jay recorded in 1995-96. The production isn't even comparable with Halftime being one of the most recognizable beats in hip-hop history, and Cashmere Thoughts being a Clark Kent throwaway.

So fu*k yes, it's better.
 5 years ago '09        #91
MakaveliToDon91 13 heat pts13
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illmatic sold more than 5 copies its first year out :jayhah2:
 07-22-2013, 04:23 PM         #92
Kreemy 
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
illmatic sold more than 5 copies its first year out :jayhah2:
What are you implying?

Reasonable Doubt went gold in 3 months
 5 years ago '07        #93
Bkjj11 3745 heat pts3745
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n*ggas do these tournaments every 4 years lol
 5 years ago '04        #94
silentmurder2 1 heat pts
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 HipHopFactz said:
Is IWW in this tourney?

IWW>>Illmatic

I been said this for years
IWW is not in the tourney, which fu*ks the whole thing up in my opinion.
 5 years ago '09        #95
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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I like Cashmere Thoughts more then Aint No n*gga and Coming of Age
 5 years ago '07        #96
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 Analytical One said:
Reasonable Doubt. Superior lyricism & rapping, and the soul-inspired production will never sound dated like the production on Illmatic.

Premier produced his greatest beats of all time on Reasonable Doubt.

Illmatic has no five-track sequence that can compete with that of Reasonable Doubt which extends from "Dead Presidents II" to "Can I Live".

The most recited and popular verse on Illmatic was AZ's verse, and it's nowhere near that of B.I.G.'s verse on "Brooklyn's Finest".

No song on Illmatic matching the honesty of "Regrets" and "Can I Live", nor the maturity of "D'Evils" and "Can't Knock The Hustle".

Comparing the lyricism, whether that be rhyme schemes, metaphors, entendres or imagery--Reasonable Doubt simply exceeds Illmatic.
I agree. We also need to keep in mind jay had like 10 years on nas. Even then it's still a better album to me :kanyeshrug:
 5 years ago '10        #97
alogan9225 82 heat pts82 OP
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 silentmurder2 said:
IWW is not in the tourney, which fu*ks the whole thing up in my opinion.
I got something for IWW... it's not in the tourney, but I didn't think more than one person was going to be lobbying for it to be in the tourney either. I'll throw it in there somewhere. Just not directly into the tourney. I'll probably just make a poll for it to face the champ after the tourney.
 07-22-2013, 04:36 PM         #98
The Dark Kn1ght 
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 alogan9225 said:
I got something for IWW... it's not in the tourney, but I didn't think more than one person was going to be lobbying for it to be in the tourney either. I'll throw it in there somewhere. Just not directly into the tourney. I'll probably just make a poll for it to face the champ after the tourney.
.......
 5 years ago '04        #99
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Reasonable Doubt
 5 years ago '05        #100
dahabi 90 heat pts90
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 WCIB said:
The poll results are interesting.

Jay fans must still be asleep.

Don't worry. Once it gets that HT they'll show up like they did in the 8/9 matchup.
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