LL Cool J Talks Jay-Z's #MCHG Sales 'I Like To Know That A Million People Went Out & Bought My Album

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 4 years ago '04        #61
RYLNYC|m 5 heat pts
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What LL is saying is valid, I can respect it. But Jay is doing both: Moving 1M units to a corporation and then another 1M to loyal fans. He's already at 500+K first week; how many other artists can accomplish that after giving away their album for free a week before?

I know the question was asked, but LL doesn't have much room to talk about loyal fans when he hasn't touched platinum in over 15 years. Respect a legend though.
 07-16-2013, 06:12 PM         #62
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My thing is this, if 1.3 million downloaded the app to get the album, that means that there was 1.3 million people were to some degree or another, are fans of his music. Even if 70-80 percent or less were actual fans, the fact remains that there were 1.3 million people who were willing to wait out the deadline and download the app to get the music right to their phone-so how is that not "touching" people when his brand provided instant gratification through a middleman of sorts (Samsung). Not only that, the fact the app had over 20 million hits, and there were reported crashes to the app due to the overwhelming amount of people trying to download it as soon as the deadline hit should say something as far as how much did his plan "touch" the fans.
 4 years ago '11        #63
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 gimmethat said:
FYI :the best fans dont always buy music ,some of u cheap mofos havent bought an album in the last 10 years

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We've seen people like LL Cool J have longevity and we respect the heritage of what he's done but it's not like right now he's competing on the same level as Lil' Wayne so for me to still be able to compete at that level at my age, that's rarefied air, it's never been done.
Who's teaching that n*gga new words, you know he ain't smart like that.



Weakest fu*king legend in hip hop when you look at his catalog: LL Cool J.
Are you high on bath salts? You are a fu*king retard, it's official.
 4 years ago '09        #64
bigscore 1632 heat pts1632
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LL is correct...
 4 years ago '12        #65
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Diet Shade.....


What LL talking bout in general terms is true and i'll give him that but he's not taking into account that the album DID get to a million people. They just didn't buy it

 4 years ago '11        #66
BtMkRs 12 heat pts12
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dafuq Cool James talking about
 4 years ago '13        #67
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LL been mad ever since he lost that battle to an unsigned Jay at the nightclub lol. But all jokes aside, I didnt hear anything out of hate in this interview
 4 years ago '13        #68
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LL said nothing but facts
 4 years ago '04        #69
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well is it jay fault no company ever wanted to buy 1. Million of any one elses aalbums?
 4 years ago '10        #70
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jay z played his music for his uncle. his uncle told him he'd never be as good as ll cool j. hov took it to heart and made it a lifetime goal to prove to his uncle he was better than cool j. i even heard he ran up on l and smashed him in a battle. these two got history that go back further than hovs def jam presidency days, it's a shame these interviewers don't have the balls to ask either of them to talk about battling in the past
 4 years ago '10        #71
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mr i'll forgive you for slavery if you forgive us for wearing gold chains has spoken
 4 years ago '13        #72
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 dblockallday said:
wait so it counted as a million sales because a million people downloaded it for free via the app? that doesn't make any sense at all.
SAMSUNG bought the 1st 1 Million digital copies to give away free to it's users.


that's a million sold to SAMSUNG & it was smart & better than just paying Jay-Z to do a ad campaign for the same price.


So Jay won , SAMSUNG won & the people getting free music without stealing it won only people who lost was the haters.


why y'all mad?

#NewRules
 4 years ago '12        #73
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so after 1 week Jay sold half that million huh
 4 years ago '05        #74
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I love Jay for everything he is... So as LL, but when yall come in and say... "Its Great Marketing" yall sound like Dave Chapelle impersonating a Cracker, yeah it's great marketing but LL not trying to sound like a Hater its... selling your album to a company like samsung and then claiming "Platinum Status" is the definition of a sellout!

sh*t bX's popular opoinion is that 50 a sellout, while if u look back to his last album... hip-hop wise is better then Jay MCHG but it's jay.. THE ultimate hustler so we don't dare calling the flaws in his shennanigans.

IM a Jay stan since I bought his Vol 1 in 97... U cant argue with me that this guy doesnt have all the flows, Ill beat u down with a library of the best flows he got, wich is HIP-HOP 101 to me. But I see this move as selfish... I own an Iphone... and I do have the album, but what about me... How do not get a free MCHG... cause I dont roll with Samsung... It's not being salty... it's being real. A million half a.ssed fans who will download the app to not appreciate JAY.


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 4 years ago '10        #75
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Probably already been asked but,

When's the last time "a million people went out and bought" and LLCoolJ album?
 4 years ago '13        #76
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 YARKONE said:
I love Jay for everything he is... So as LL, but when yall come in and say... "Its Great Marketing" yall sound like Dave Chapelle impersonating a Cracker, yeah it's great marketing but LL not trying to sound like a Hater its... selling your album to a company like samsung and then claiming "Platinum Status" is the definition of a sellout!

sh*t bX's popular opoinion is that 50 a sellout, while if u look back to his last album... hip-hop wise is better then Jay MCHG but it's jay.. THE ultimate hustler so we don't dare calling the flaws in his shennanigans.

IM a Jay stan since I bought his Vol 1 in 97... U cant argue with me that this guy doesnt have all the flows, Ill beat u down with a library of the best flows he got, wich is HIP-HOP 101 to me. But I see this move as selfish... I own an Iphone... and I do have the album, but what about me... How do not get a free MCHG... cause I dont roll with Samsung... It's not being salty... it's being real. A million half a.ssed fans who will download the app to not appreciate JAY.
Now understand why this was a win for SAMSUNG & Jay-Z.
 4 years ago '05        #77
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 Im Soo Special said:
LL is not mad

Jay initially hated on LL

Cause he destroyed him in battles and he is/was the face of Def Jam. Jay wanted to be what LL was
jay-z beat LL in the battle not the other way around
 07-17-2013, 02:55 AM         #78
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 WCIB said:
Too easy.



 gimmethat said:
LL hates j.


i get the logic but the people got the music,thats the most important thing...and the best way for an artist to know if he "touched the people" is to go on tour
And thats what hes doing

FYI :the best fans dont always buy music ,some of u cheap mofos havent bought an album in the last 10 years
difference between fan & listener


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 4 years ago '05        #79
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If any of ya'll watched The Dreams Revolt interview then this wouldnt even be a discussion. His main point was that if you selling for example 200k for your music, you know FOR A FACT more than 200k are actually listening to it, these dudes aint dumb enough to go in with a business model and sell themselves short.

Why wouldnt you want to maximize profit knowing that people gonna listen to for free anyways, so might as well get some money for the music your offering, end of the day its the music BUSINESS. Jay guaranteed a sale of a million, which is something that just doesnt happen in todays music business period due the climate and what the internet is.

at this "real fans were deprived" bullsh*t, so real Carter 1 Wayne fans were the majority of Carter III fanbase? GTFOH. Lollipop and A Milli were monster singles that the average fan caught onto and went on to buy the album off the back of those singles.

Ya'll looking for reasons to hate on Jay instead of applauding him, and what even worse is that Jay is stating FACT, he sold a million albums before the album dropped. Nowhere did he say he sold a million to real fans, people etc.
 4 years ago '05        #80
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 trill jackson said:
mr i'll forgive you for slavery if you forgive us for wearing gold chains has spoken
Greatest post in the thread, by far.

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