Jay-Z & Kanye West Got Into An Argument Over “Oceans” & “Holy Grail”

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 4 years ago '04        #1
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Jay-Z & Kanye West Got Into An Argument Over “Oceans” & “Holy Grail”
 

 
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Last week The-Dream revealed that the track he produced, “Holy Grail,” for Jay-Z’s Magna Carta Holy Grail album was actually created during the time Watch The Throne was being put together. Now NME is reporting that Jay tells BBC Radio 1′s Zane Lowe that “Holy Grail” and the song “Oceans” were at the center of an argument between he and Kanye West over which album should host the two tracks.

“We had this whole plan when me and Kanye did [the] Watch The Throne album that we would go right into our solos after that,” says Jay. “Soon as I thought we had wrapped up Watch The Throne, I made two records. I had ‘Holy Grail’ and ‘Oceans’.”

Jay-Z says he played the “Holy Grail” track, which did not have any lyrics yet, and “Oceans” for Kanye who suggested they put both songs on Watch The Throne.

“[Kanye] was like, ‘No those have to go on Watch The Throne, so we spent four days arguing about those records and I was explaining to him why it wasn’t right for this project and I had a whole idea for making this album called ‘Magna Carta Holy Grail’,” explains Jay.

Apparently the argument between Jay and Kanye never got out of hand, but the Roc Nation boss does say it got physical between some other people involved in the process.

“Four days, four days literally arguing, not like f!ghting. Well, there was some pushing at one point but not between us, just everyone else got a little excited,” recalls Jay.

This is not the first time a musical a.ssociate of Kanye has talked about how he is very passionate about the tracks he likes. G.O.O.D. Music emcee Pusha T spoke about having to steal the track “Who I Am” from Kanye who wanted the record for himself.

“I ran in the studio real quick and laid a verse to it. I was like, ‘Man nah, this is my record already. I already rapped to it. What are you talking about?’ We just went back and forth, and he ended up giving me the record,” Pusha told Danny Diaz of Power 98.

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 4 years ago '05        #2
WCIB 111 heat pts111
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Those two tracks would have made WTT an automatic classic in my eyes. Maybe replace those with That's My bi*ch.
 4 years ago '12        #3
TheThreadLord 1776 heat pts1776
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Good

I'm glad those songs wasn't on watch the throne
 07-15-2013, 10:54 AM         #4
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 4 years ago '06        #5
O-King 1 heat pts
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 4 years ago '04        #6
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 4 years ago '08        #7
bkid 126 heat pts126
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n*ggas from both camps pushing each other lol
 4 years ago '11        #8
Blue Dream 8 heat pts
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Both were sharper lyrically around WTT, could've made em both better though I think it would've overall hurt both projects in the end.
 4 years ago '07        #9
cankstoochie 48 heat pts48
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wait so jay-z had these tracks at least 3 years ago? wow
 4 years ago '07        #10
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 cankstoochie said:
wait so jay-z had these tracks at least 3 years ago? wow
WTT came out August 2011. Thats not even 2 years.
 4 years ago '08        #11
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 cankstoochie said:
wait so jay-z had these tracks at least 3 years ago? wow
yea those two were made 2 years ago... Jay said Oceans was the first song he made for the album and The-Dream said Holy Grail was made around that time too... but they put Justin on the hook only this year... before that it was The-Dream on the hook
 4 years ago '07        #12
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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link please or dismissed as bs
 4 years ago '04        #13
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 KnicksLost said:
link please or dismissed as bs


Smh you Bx ninjas k!ll me! As if i have time to make up stuff to stuff to impress you but heres the link


 4 years ago '10        #14
Bandito 92 heat pts92
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 KnicksLost said:
link please or dismissed as bs
The interview is being aired live on BBC Radio 1 right now. It's suppose
to be aired in 4 parts, not sure where he speaks on these two tracks.

 4 years ago '13        #15
MannyAces 10 heat pts10
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Watch the throne 2 gotta drop soon.. people just reachin like Ye and Jay beefin.. siblings disagree on sh*t all the time
 4 years ago '04        #16
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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might as well do an ep with frank
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cool...
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 07-15-2013, 03:01 PM         #19
SleepTight 
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it aint like Jay had these tracks WITH THE LYRICS wit em..........he just had the beat
 4 years ago '05        #20
Nickel 118 heat pts118
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damn...I would've loved to be in the studio to see that "BBC" recording session....especially how Jay just described how it came about
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