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 06-24-2013, 12:23 AM         #161
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 r.burgundy said:
ross is a product of todays society.i personally dont digg it,but it is what it is.i done kicked it out there wit ross,and dudes out there swear by him

i dont think their has been a more detrimental figure to tha black community than tupac.i will use this thread as proof.we got a guy in hiphopfactz who accuses big and jayz of bein rapists,u got 1 guy threatinin to f!ght a guy in a whole nother city,all this dude music inspires is violence and ignorance




n*gga im blaming you and not pac for this out of control a.ss sh*t in here
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 bigree61 said:



n*gga im blaming you and not pac for this out of control a.ss sh*t in here
i can dig it.for tha record,i feel pac made some of tha greatest music in any genre,but it doesnt change tha fact that he inspires alot of hate.people dont gravitate towards tha positive.all people wanna talk about his he shot this guy,and dissed this guy.aint nothin gangsta bout none of that sh*t
 06-24-2013, 12:26 AM         #163
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 HipHopFactz said:
BIG and his click left guns in Pacs room

Pac room got raided by the feds and he was arrested

Pac tried to argue in court that he was licensed to carry and that why would he need illegal guns...anyways to cut a long story short Pac was convicted of that during the s3xual abuse trial and it was part of the sentence he received

Thus Pac was extra mad since he was taking on charges for Biggie and never ratted on him.


1.38 onwards he mentions the guns..2.28, he mentions he doesn't know who owns the guns...

sh*t i see why Pac fu*ked faith
 4 years ago '10        #164
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as for jay-z it happens

after all pac went from mr. political to gangster rap with a political outlook

/thread

pac was just talking sh*t
 4 years ago '13        #165
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 r.burgundy said:
whats all that got to do wit pac lol

he actually is.he is in there directly cause pac said he was part of tha robbery on against all odds lol.feds brought him in because of that,couldnt find nothin on him,then charged him wit 3 random robberies.sh*t is fu*ked up.thats tha definition of dry snitch

everywhere is full of rats my poofster.thats life
Stop it, ur man Tut is in jail because he committed robberies, don't try and put that on Pac.

Tut was a lame who was caught slipping, Pac shud have put a bullet in him, but that fat phony Biggie saved him when Pac pulled the blicky on'em.

Ur man Jack is a rat and ur man Jimmy is a rat

Pac took on gun charges for Piggy and co, Pac been had FEDs on his case since 10 years old, in the interview room asking where his uncles and step father was, this kid never ratted, never cracked unlike ur NY frauds Jimmy and Jack

Pac>>>any of them rats and snakes/police informants
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 HipHopFactz said:
BIG and his click left guns in Pacs room

Pac room got raided by the feds and he was arrested

Pac tried to argue in court that he was licensed to carry and that why would he need illegal guns...anyways to cut a long story short Pac was convicted of that during the s3xual abuse trial and it was part of the sentence he received

Thus Pac was extra mad since he was taking on charges for Biggie and never ratted on him.


1.38 onwards he mentions the guns..2.28, he mentions he doesn't know who owns the guns...

whooooooooooooaaaaaa.did u watch that interview?
"the only time there was an act of sodomy was when she did it to me.she admitted she did it to me.they should be puttin charges on this girl who sodomized me on the floor of a dance club"
1:40 - 1:50
 06-24-2013, 12:36 AM         #167
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whooooooooooooaaaaaa.did u watch that interview?
"the only time there was an act of sodomy was when she did it to me.she admitted she did it to me.they should be puttin charges on this girl who sodomized me on the floor of a dance club"
1:40 - 1:50
Pac had a forearm a lot of bi*ches sodomized him
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 HipHopFactz said:
Stop it, ur man Tut is in jail because he committed robberies, don't try and put that on Pac.

Tut was a lame who was caught slipping, Pac shud have put a bullet in him, but that fat phony Biggie saved him when Pac pulled the blicky on'em.

Ur man Jack is a rat and ur man Jimmy is a rat

Pac took on gun charges for Piggy and co, Pac been had FEDs on his case since 10 years old, in the interview room asking where his uncles and step father was, this kid never ratted, never cracked unlike ur NY frauds Jimmy and Jack

Pac>>>any of them rats and snakes/police informants
why are u all of a sudden typin like u from tha hood lol.u wasnt typin like dat 3months ago son.
yall see tha sh*t pac inspire.got this wigoid switchin up his vernacular

pac was acquitted on 1 charge of illegal firearm possesion and that firearm came out that hotel room he molested that girl in.piggy wasnt there that night hombreso if pac took some charges for biggie,where tha charges at?
 4 years ago '13        #169
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 r.burgundy said:
whooooooooooooaaaaaa.did u watch that interview?
"the only time there was an act of sodomy was when she did it to me.she admitted she did it to me.they should be puttin charges on this girl who sodomized me on the floor of a dance club"
1:40 - 1:50
You born in 2001 lame, showing ur age again

She preformed fellatio on Pac in the club, I thought you would know the in's and outs of the case since ur a so called dude who was born in the 80's?



You over here taking Pac in the literal sense intentionally? or is it because u were born in 2001 ?
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 curlyd said:
Pac had a forearm a lot of bi*ches sodomized him
do u know what sodomize means young man?
 4 years ago '07        #171
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 HipHopFactz said:
You born in 2001 lame, showing ur age again

She preformed fellatio on Pac in the club, I thought you would know the in's and outs of the case since ur a so called dude who was born in the 80's?



You over here taking Pac in the literal sense intentionally? or is it because u were born in 2001 ?
so let me get this straight,tha meaning of sodomy has changed from 1994 to 2001 to 2013?
 06-24-2013, 12:41 AM         #172
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edi mean was talking about Pac's sister in the first verse?:mjohsht :
 06-24-2013, 12:43 AM         #173
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do u know what sodomize means young man?

No sir i'm afraid I don't but
































I know your brotha isn't ever being released from prison
 4 years ago '07        #174
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Walter "King Tut" Johnson never thought victory could feel so empty. Just after 9am on Oct 24,1996, Johnson strode into the courthouse at 360 Adams St. in downtown Brooklyn, excited at the prospect of returing home later that day on a not-guilty verdict stemming from a robbery charge.

Though Johnson had a criminal record that one prosecuter dubbed "extraordinary"-his rap sheet included a dramatic holdup of a Jehovah Witness Hall in 1983 , also numerous acquittals in a number of shootings and robberies , including the 1993 attempted murder of a cop in a Brooklyn barbershop.

Johnson attorney had informed him that he'd have a good shot at a not-guilty verdict or even having his case dismissed. But as Johnson passed through the courthouse metal detectors and made his way to the courtroom, he was accosted by a group of men dressed in plain business like attire in the hallway. The men followed Johnson to the courtroom, where moments after the judge announced that he was dismissing the robbery case, the men in business attire promptly stepped forward and slapped handcuffs on him.

The well dressed men happened to be U.S Marshalls and King Tut was on his way to being indicted by the Feds. As he was driven to the U.S District Court in Brooklyn, Johnson started to panic; this was his first run in with the feds and his extensive criminal background made him an easy target.

Johnson's fear of a life behind federal bars increased to near parylisis when the marshals in the car accused him of shooting Tupac Shakur at Quad studios in Times Square New York in 1994 and of having murdered the rapper just six weeks earlier, on Sept 13, 1996.

"I'm screaming at them..like 'You crazy!!- I didn't do either one of them", Johnson remembers sayin. "I didn't k!ll nobody, I didn't k!ll Tupac!"

The agents wasn't buying it, in fact they were so convinced Johnson had k!lled Tupac that they asked to search his truck-which was parked in a garage near the courthouse-in hopes of finding the murder weapon.

When Johnson arrived at U.S District Court later that day, though he was only accused of a series of robberies in Brooklyn. Much to their chargin, the federal agents did not find the weapon used in the Quad shooting or Tupac's murder.

King Tut was hit with 12 federal charges stemming from three armed robberies, and not the murder of perhaps the most iconic rapper in hip hop's history, should have come as a profound relief to Johnson. But it didn't-Johnson knew that if he was convicted, he could be sentenced to life without parole under the "Three Strikes" provisioin of a federal crime bill passed by congress in 1994, which mandated a sentence of life imprisonment for violent three time federal offenders. "That was the worst day of my life" says Johnson speaking to KING MAGAZINE from the U.S Penitentary in Lee, Virginia.

The next day, thinigs took an even darker turn. News reports of his indictment quoted an informant whom told investigators that Johnson had called Tupac “a sucker”and bragged about shooting him at Quad, an incident that jumped started the coastal hip hop war of the mid 90’s. The New York daily news quoted the informant as saying that “Tupac was not a real gangster and that he had shot him, to discipline him”.

The feds seem to believe the informants words and the following statement was given to the Daily News by a police spokesperson , “We hope that [king tut] arrest will lead to solving the murder of Tupac Shakur”.

In spite of the fact that no evidence could be produced to solve the murder much less the shooting of Tupac in N.Y, the Daily News ran with the story under the headline: “FEDS VOW TO BURY KING TUT”.

Walter Johnson-stick up kid, alleged k!ller of tupac, has the most regal of street names, born to a brooklyn -under humble conditions. During the mid 70’s, Johnson and his friends attended hip hop block parties uptown , by the dawn of the 80’s , Johnson was drawn to the sinister side of the streets.

During this time period of the pre-guliani era, one could easily earn his stripes on the street by arming himself with a pistol and wearing a ski-mask. It was this part of street life, which Johnson relished as he commited strings of armed robberies and various street heists with ease.
“I was very angry, or you could say disturbed”, Johnson explains..”By allowing yourself to be manipulated by into situations that will affect you for your entire life, will result in lifetime reprucussions.”

Johnson’s rep became cemented in stone in 1979, when he was picked up on a charge relating to a sting of unsolved robberies. “When my mother came to get me from the precint, the police asked her..”What other name he goes by besides Walter Johnson?..she responded “Tut is his nickname”..the superior officer replied ..”King Tut?”, my mother said..”No , that is not his name”..the officer responded..”Yeah I think his name will be KING TUT..cause he’s from the county of Kings.”

With an alias given to him by an officer, King Tut lived up to his title as his “get money” schemes grew more outrageous and more frequency. On August 8, 1983, Tut robbed 6 passengers on a Queens to Brooklyn bus; a week later the hold up of a subway car full of passengers in downtown Brooklyn was attributed to Tut as well, and little more than a month later, on Sept 12th, he executed the robbery of more than 300 members of a Jehovah Witness Hall. Yet inspite of his healthy criminal spree, Tut virtually remained “untouched” with the exception foa 2 to 6 year jail sentence , in which he would eventually be parolled after just 3 years.

But in January or 1993, tut’s luck with the law would come into an abrubt end. At a Brooklyn barbershop, King Tut shot a plainsclothes officer in full crowd view with Tut’s five year old son accompanying him, the officer named Richard Aviles was partially paralyzed from the waist down, Johnson says that him and his son was ambushed by Aviles without provocation and never identified himself as a cop.

"He was dressed like a thug" , Johnson recalls, with his voice trailing off.."and he produced a weapon , ran up behind my son ..and right then all hell broke loose.


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In spite of the broad daylight violence and life threatening injuries of the officer, a Brooklyn jury found Johnson not guilty of the crime of attempted murder, and this profoundly upset the NYPD. After serving a year for a minor armed robbery charge, King Tut vowed to his family and friends that he would leave the streets for good , as well as salvaging what little freedom he gained after surviving a firef!ght with an officer as well as beating prosecution.

To achieve his goal , King Tut like many of his street peers sought entry into the lucrative rap industry, which at the time was capitalizing off the ‘gangsta’ lifestyle in the form of “thuggary” via Tupac and big money “dons” such as Biggie.

It just so happen that King Tut would set up a meeting with one of the biggest advocates of this form of entertainment, Sean “Puffy” Combs, “I explained to Puffy that I can be very beneficial to you, you don’t even have to give me money, I have income coming in, I just need your insight”, Puff was like..”Yo I heard alot of bad things about you man, I don’t know”, Puff was told by many that I was not to be trusted and can do nothing but harm.” As the meeting was coming to a conclusion, with nothing productive seeming to come out of it, Tut made this plea..”Look if you don’t want to deal with me based on what I did to you or some people a.ssociated with you, I can respect that”..but to not deal with me just ‘based on what others might have said to you, just ain’t right!”

Puff finally was convinced, and agreed to mentor King Tut in the complexities of doing business in the hip hop world, by just following his directives. Walter “King Tut” Johnson really wanted to follow Puff’s demands, but Tut had plans of his own according to rivals of Bad Boy as well as the Feds.

Once Tupac Shakur fingerpointed King Tut and Brooklyn based manager Jimmy Rosemond in his shooting at Quad, Johnson became a certified suspect. Johnson says “Pac fingered me in the shooting, based on what people told Pac, Johnson refuses to reveal whom, all he says is that people on Rikers and the streets said it was “Tut from Cypress.” The notion that Tut was the triggerman made perfect sense to Tupac , because of an east coast cabal consisting of Puffy, Haitian Jack, Biggie and Jimmy “Henchmen” Rosemond seemed capable of conducting the attack. “Because of my a.ssociation with Puff Combs and Bad Boy”, Johnson says. For his part Henchmen denies any involvement.

When Shakur was later murdered in 1996, Tut’s name came up once again, he became a logical suspect which led to that fateful day that the marshals picked him up in a Brooklyn courtroom. Not able to present any credible evidence of Tut’s involvement in Tupac’s shooting as well as murder, the Feds alleged that he had commited three robberies back to back in 1996 against the girlfriend of a Brooklyn dope kingpin. Even though their were numerous loopholes in the robbery cases, and the fact that these robbery charges should have never gotten pass the state jurisdiction level, it raises the question:

Why were the Feds so infatuated with Tut’s alleged robbery sprees?, federal law enforcement denied comment, but Tut offers this explanation, the indictment on the robbery charges were meant to pressure Tut into directly fingering Puff Daddy in Tupac’s a.ssault and eventual murder. But instead Walter “Tut” Johnson did not cooperate with the Feds in any investigation involving Puff Daddy.

It is likely that as a result of resisting pressure from the Feds by refusing to comply with the Feds demands, Walter “Tut’ Johnson was the first New York resident to be sentenced with life without parole under the newly written “Three Strikes’ provision.

Although it has been a decade since Tupac’s murder and nine years since Tut’s federal indictment, the ghosts of both events still haunt Johnson and Hip Hhop as a whole. TUPAC’S controversial take on the matter “Against All Odds” off the Makavelli L.P includes the line: “Gun shots to Tut, now you stuck!” and 50 CENT kept tut’s name in the game with the verse on “MANY MEN”: “Feds ain’t no jack when Pac got shot, I got a kite from the pen saying Tut got knocked.”

Johnson is now currently serving his life sentence in Jonesville , Va and he confirms to KING that as both New York Magazine and Newsweek have speculated that he is at the center of a renewed investigation by the U.S ATTORNEY’s office in New York regarding the shooting as well as slaying of Tupac Shakur. Johnson says that in the spring of 2005, he was moved by the Feds from Jonesville prison to the Metropolitan Corrctional Center (MCC) in downtown Manhattan next to a cell containing Jacques “Haitian Jack” Agnant for intense questioning.

Johnson says that in spite of that he is working with tupac’s father , Mutulu Shakur and Shakur’s private investigator Watani Tyehembia in their own investigation of the murder of Tupac shakur, Tyehembia confirms that Tut has cooperated.

King Tut isn’t surprised why many of Tupac’s fans are wary of his motives in helping to solve the murder of Tupac, “I can understand why pac fans would not like me and I respect their loyalty to him”…”But I want them to know I definitely had nothing to with his attempted murder nor his a.ssassination, it is very important that they know that this situation is MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY WOULD EVER BELIEVE, if you look at this case you will find numerous lies , inconsisticies and more importantly cover-ups and smoke screens!”

“If i’m wrong prosecute me to the fullest degree, but if I’m innocent let me go, even though i was a bad guy in my younger years, i didn't do this, and i don't deserve to be here for this!"
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 curlyd said:
No sir i'm afraid I don't but

I know your brotha isn't ever being released from prison
sodomy is anal penetration brotha.its 1 of tha things he was charged wit so he knows full well what he was sayin in tha interview

lil jaidah was bout that life that yall fools idolize.he a real dude,he faced time before.he'll be good either way
 4 years ago '13        #177
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 r.burgundy said:
why are u all of a sudden typin like u from tha hood lol.u wasnt typin like dat 3months ago son.
yall see tha sh*t pac inspire.got this wigoid switchin up his vernacular

pac was acquitted on 1 charge of illegal firearm possesion and that firearm came out that hotel room he molested that girl in.piggy wasnt there that night hombreso if pac took some charges for biggie,where tha charges at?
7.10

"them guns in my room was biggies guns, cuz them cowards left the room when they heard the police was downstairs, everybody left their guns in my room, so I got 4 guns in my room, serial numbers scratched out, I did not snitch, I took that case, so u can imagine how i feel when i'm in jail for that case"


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 HipHopFactz said:
7.10

"them guns in my room was biggies guns, cuz them cowards left the room when they heard the police was downstairs, everybody left their guns in my room, so I got 4 guns in my room, serial numbers scratched out, I did not snitch, I took that case, so u can imagine how i feel when i'm in jail for that case"

so where did tha case go?what jail was he in behind that case?
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 r.burgundy said:
so let me get this straight,tha meaning of sodomy has changed from 1994 to 2001 to 2013?
u know what Pac meant, he was saying the chick jumped on him, she performed a s3x act on him i.e a blowjob,and that he shud be bringing charges up against her rather than the other way around

unless ur saying the chick was wearing a dildo and fu*ked pac up the a.ss on the dance floor club infront of everyone?



stop being a lame rat snitch supporter all ur life
 4 years ago '13        #180
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how you gonna be running your mouth about jay z one week, then dead the next week


no matter what tupac say he still faker than jay z and he still not alive so who lost that beef?


not jay
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