"How you gon be Hawaiian Sophie one year and be tough a** mobster the next year" - 2pac

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 4 years ago '07        #201
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 loyola llothta said:
PAC wasnt a "gangster" he was a real dude. pac was tryna give you the large picture Your pops/bro/family lineage wasn’t no gangster they were just another lost n*ggas, they was in the business that the system perpetuates on the side, to keep us in the condition where we ain’t made to survive but you think they gods.Gangsta’s brothers like Marcus Garvey, who when he performed lectures raised consciousness up from doin wrong, to puttin us in uniforms makin us soldiers in God’s army, or them Garveyites but your family aint that
stop listnin to these battle rappers dude.stop listnin to rap period.pac was perpetuated beef and controversy to make a dollar.thats tha definition of what lux was talkin about.dudes that will do anything

my grandmoms is a garveyite
 4 years ago '12        #202
Mr Fujaveli 36 heat pts36
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too drunk to read all the posts tonight.....but y'all f*ggots acting like a kid at 17 who tryna live good(as we all did/should) who moved to every damn hood possible and then got Shot and accused of r*pe can't snap????!!! fu*k outta here

the realest rapper of all time is in my avy bi*ch n*ggas
 4 years ago '12        #203
Mr Fujaveli 36 heat pts36
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 HipHopFactz said:
Stop it, ur man Tut is in jail because he committed robberies, don't try and put that on Pac.

Tut was a lame who was caught slipping, Pac shud have put a bullet in him, but that fat phony Biggie saved him when Pac pulled the blicky on'em.

Ur man Jack is a rat and ur man Jimmy is a rat

Pac took on gun charges for Piggy and co, Pac been had FEDs on his case since 10 years old, in the interview room asking where his uncles and step father was, this kid never ratted, never cracked unlike ur NY frauds Jimmy and Jack

Pac>>>any of them rats and snakes/police informants
 06-24-2013, 05:20 AM         #204
deLeet 
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 HipHopFactz said:
Shutthe fu*k up f*ggot aint nobody want to know about ur family problems



u boxden nerd, u aint no gangsta and nor is ur lil bro



Dumb waste of space, get a job
Typing is fun huh, weirdo

Boxden can get a nerd feeling himself on some How you gon be Hawaiian Sophie one year and be a tough mobster the next....

PAC was soft...... REAL


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 06-24-2013, 05:26 AM         #205
Sniggit 
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 SouLow said:
Yoooooooo

pac stans be making up all kinds of sh*t


tupac was not a panther and he never put in any kinds of work in his life
he shot 2 off duty cops

have you ever shot anyone let alone an off duty cop

most dudes who have arnt living to tell the tale
 4 years ago '04        #206
GollyI'mGully 69 heat pts69
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i suppose this is the monthly thread on whether tupac was a g or not...
 4 years ago '10        #207
trill jackson 737 heat pts737
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that hawaiian sophie video saved hovs life, cause what you don't know is at the exact same time he was in england shooting that video the police bagged his man emory back home and hov used to be with him everyday. emory did 16 years behind that and if hov was home he would have been with him
 4 years ago '10        #208
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 Sniggit said:
he shot 2 off duty cops

have you ever shot anyone let alone an off duty cop

most dudes who have arnt living to tell the tale
of course hes pulled triggers, dont forget that boxden is the place where all the gangsters and thugs come to relax from a hard day of mobbin

man these fools shoot about 10 people a day, make huge dope exchanges, etc.

most of them aint nerds who come from suburban areas, go to good schools, have both parents in their lives, etc.

but if you wanna learn how to be straight g, just ask these hardcore folk on boxden and they will teach ya about the streets, and we are not talking abou /f4/
 4 years ago '07        #209
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 r.burgundy said:
jimmy henchmen,haitian jack and lil shawn wasnt white or from tha burbs,and they all called pac fake and said he wasnt no gangsta
Lil Shawn was the only one to say something bad about Pac, and Pac dissed him and his friends, so I can imagine he was salty. We don't know what Haitian Jack said. The only thing Jimmy Henchmen was on record saying, was when he stepped to Pac and told him to "stop sensationalizing the beef". Then again, the stuff that has come out over the years, show Jimmy to be more of a liar and that Pac knew what he was talking about.
 4 years ago '11        #210
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 Sniggit said:
he shot 2 off duty cops

have you ever shot anyone let alone an off duty cop

most dudes who have arnt living to tell the tale
Those cops were fu*king with a fan leaving his show also. Gay-Z would never do something like that. 2Pac really loved his fans. What rapper would risk his career for his fans? Don Makaveli that's who.


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 4 years ago '07        #211
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 HipHopFactz said:
Pac had flaws like everyone else, that's what makes him real, he just happened to rap about it and we happened to see his life in the media.

Every rapper has flaws, Gayz sold crack to his own moms, shot his brother Eric because he was trying to r*pe him, sold poison to his own community amongst other things. Jay is now 55 and he's far away from that life and image he was selling back then, whereas Pac died at age 25.

The difference between Pac and Jay:

Pac shot 2 cops to save a brother whereas Jay shot his brother
Jay never sold crack to his mother. Jay said that was a metaphor not to be taken literally. His brother didn't r*pe him btw, Jay shot him for stealing from him....not that it makes it any better.

The fact that you called him "Gay-Z" leads me to believe that you don't like him on a personal level lol (that's fine), so your perception is already on skewed on him, but you can also make similar arguments for flaws in Tupac if you chose to look at him with the same scrutiny that you look at Jay with.

Pac took part in the 1995 beating of the Bad Boy employee that supposedly had Puffy's mother's address. Dre, Suge, Pac, and other death Row employee's stomped the man out, took him into a room, sat him down in a chair and repeatedly took turns punching him in the face asking him to give up Puffy's mom's address, and forced him to drink a glass of urine. When he tried to escape, they said Pac was trying to push the man off the balcony and k!ll him. Why was that necessary?

What about when Pac started a f!ght at this picnic in Marin County back in 92 and it got so out of control due to Pac's actions, that a little girl ended up getting shot and k!lled in a cross fire.

Sam Sneed being tied up in a chair and punched in the face by Pac for "every East Coast" guy that he saw in his video. Why was that necessary?

I can name a lot of examples of Pac doing unnecessary things and letting situations get out of control, but I'm not grasping for straws, I'm just saying that one can make the case for Pac's actions not always being the upstanding either. The fact that he was so inspired Nicolo Machiaveli lets me know that while he had a compassionate side, he also had a knack for ruthlessness and manipulation that I noticed, even from reading about his earlier years.

Jay could've also made a similar case for Pac saying how do you go from:


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to


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 4 years ago '07        #212
A-L-P 8 heat pts
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 r.burgundy said:
he said all that after he hauled a.ss to tha west coast.he coulda said it while he was in nyc

jack and henchmen shot and whooped more a.ss than pac lol
Nah, Pac was talking greasy while he was in NY, which is what led Jack to "punish him" in the first place. He basically called Jack a snitch to the NY times, and Jack was furious when he found out. The beef was on at that point, they went to some of the same parties, and Pac was publicly disrespecting him by not acknowledging Jack's presence, ignoring him. I guess that's why Jack had his goons take back all of the jewelry that he brought for Pac. I read that there was even one occasion where he saw Jack in public and began to draw his pistol, but Biggie stopped him before Jack knew what was going on. And this while all in the midst of Pac's numerous other cases lol.
 4 years ago '07        #213
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pac was not a gangster, dude shot himself when he got jacked
 4 years ago '10        #214
uddart 1 heat pts
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 Avon_Barksdale said:


Wow that ether, the Jay stans are in denial.

"Ehh what, is that the rapper Jay-z? No it cant be, he is suppose to be the perfect rapper "

/TheMindof & r.burgundy


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 4 years ago '11        #215
Blue Dream 8 heat pts
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He went to school for the arts, had good grades, he can't be hard

Dumbest sh*t I ever heard, anyone who knows sh*t about public schooling knows they little subclassifications mean sh*t outside of some theme oriented electives. n*ggas acting like Pac went to Juliard

Son shot two cops, this debate is over.
 4 years ago '04        #216
Mr_Plenty 
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aint no lie that video of pac when he was 17 is wild suspect lmaoooooooo......
 06-24-2013, 03:44 PM         #217
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 clipse_designz said:
pac was not a gangster, dude shot himself when he got jacked
What? how stupid is that, why would he shoot himself 5 times including in the head?
 06-24-2013, 03:49 PM         #218
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 GameTheory said:
The story from John Hughes perspective is hilarious. Pac was a huge phony.
Everyone has their own version


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 06-24-2013, 04:13 PM         #219
JayDee11 
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 r.burgundy said:
why are u all of a sudden typin like u from tha hood lol.u wasnt typin like dat 3months ago son.
yall see tha sh*t pac inspire.got this wigoid switchin up his vernacular
Because he's a fraud who hops from website to website after he gets exposed. The sad sh*t is Pac inadvertently racked up the weirdest fanbase in rap. White kids pretending to black, lames who never seen no action but think Youtube and Googling somehow gives them credentials. Wimps who think reciting Pac's story somehow gives them this eerie connection to him. sh*t is pathetic. Pac gotta be rolling in his grave
 4 years ago '13        #220
HipHopFactz 436 heat pts436
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 A-L-P said:
Nah, Pac was talking greasy while he was in NY, which is what led Jack to "punish him" in the first place. He basically called Jack a snitch to the NY times, and Jack was furious when he found out. The beef was on at that point, they went to some of the same parties, and Pac was publicly disrespecting him by not acknowledging Jack's presence, ignoring him. I guess that's why Jack had his goons take back all of the jewelry that he brought for Pac. I read that there was even one occasion where he saw Jack in public and began to draw his pistol, but Biggie stopped him before Jack knew what was going on. And this while all in the midst of Pac's numerous other cases lol.
Naw he pulled the piece on Tut and BIG stopped Pac and vouched for Tut. Mark Curry mentions it in his book, Pac was about to shoot Tut, but Biggie was like naw Pac he cool.

2pac was trigger happy no doubt about that

Also in regards to the child getting caught by a stray,

'Pac stuck around to sign autographs but ended up getting into a heated exchange with some local tough guys. 'Pac allegedly pulled out a gun, but somehow it fell before he fired the weapon. When someone else picked up the gun, it accidentally discharged. Coincidentally, 6-year-old Qa'id Walker-Teal, who was riding his bike nearby, got shot in the head and k!lled by a stray bullet. Some news outlets reported that 'Pac was to blame, and he settled a wrongful death suit with the child’s family, but ballistic tests proved it was not a bullet from his gun that k!lled the boy.

Thus Pac wasnt doing 30 to life


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