Jay-Z - "Magna Carta Holy Grail" | Discussion Thread

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 5 years ago '04        #3201
DSOM 38 heat pts38
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RODE DOWNTOWN Last night off the kushery and this album stayed in rotation.

its so smooth and the way the songs transition is perfect.

Im liking it more everyday.


Picasso is a monster and La familia, Oceans and Nickels and Dimes are becoming my favs.

Im replacing BBC with Open Letter

i cant stomach that song lol
 5 years ago '04        #3202
DezCaughtIt 15 heat pts15
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What could jay have done to make this album better? Beats bang, his lyrics stepped up from BP3, he talking about personal sh*t, no played out tracks on the radio.,

Best jay album since tba
 5 years ago '05        #3203
Philly B 41 heat pts41
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 RocawearMan said:
What could jay have done to make this album better? Beats bang, his lyrics stepped up from BP3, he talking about personal sh*t, no played out tracks on the radio.,

Best jay album since tba
 5 years ago '04        #3204
NBA Brawler 114 heat pts114
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 DSOM said:
RODE DOWNTOWN Last night off the kushery and this album stayed in rotation.

its so smooth and the way the songs transition is perfect.

Im liking it more everyday.


Picasso is a monster and La familia, Oceans and Nickels and Dimes are becoming my favs.

Im replacing BBC with Open Letter

i cant stomach that song lol
Open Letter is a bonus track.
 5 years ago '05        #3205
LVuittonDon4EVA 8 heat pts
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 JeeQ said:
A few things I'll say about this album...

First off, the album is hot. I was expecting the production to come through based off the commercials and it did.

Secondly, Jay-Z is now officially Kanye Jr. Ever since Watch The Throne it's been clear. He's semi-Kanye. Quasi-Kanye. The margarine of Kanye. The Diet Coke of Kanye. Just one calorie, not Kanye enough. These two are almost twins at this point.

Thirdly, I hope Tom Ford sent Jay-Z a huge check. Best track on the album is a giant advertisement.
It wouldn't surprise me if Hov is getting free tuxes for life from Ford after this record.
 5 years ago '04        #3206
DSOM 38 heat pts38
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 NBA Brawler said:
Open Letter is a bonus track.
not on my Ipod play list
 5 years ago '05        #3207
LVuittonDon4EVA 8 heat pts
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Got damn BEACH IS BETTER needs to be a full track....I get angry every time that sh*t cuts off...
 5 years ago '09        #3208
JewsusChrist 211 heat pts211
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Album doesn't bang in the car or when Ur high

Didn't even play on the road trip after one time

Album feels incomplete it was prolly yeezys idea to shorten songs
 5 years ago '04        #3209
DSOM 38 heat pts38
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 JeeQ said:
A few things I'll say about this album...

First off, the album is hot. I was expecting the production to come through based off the commercials and it did.

Secondly, Jay-Z is now officially Kanye Jr. Ever since Watch The Throne it's been clear. He's semi-Kanye. Quasi-Kanye. The margarine of Kanye. The Diet Coke of Kanye. Just one calorie, not Kanye enough. These two are almost twins at this point.

Thirdly, I hope Tom Ford sent Jay-Z a huge check. Best track on the album is a giant advertisement.
I dont know where the Kanye analysis came from but I guess u see and hear something I dont.

As far as the Tom Ford reply. I was kind of disturbed by this too. He chose tom ford out of all the companies out here.
he could of named it after a black owned company that needs that level of promo since he's all about black excellence.

n*gga could of called it AKOO lol
 5 years ago '07        #3210
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One of his best albums. Can't rank it just yet. He did his thing.
 5 years ago '09        #3211
Ash10 21 heat pts21
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 DSOM said:
I dont know where the Kanye analysis came from but I guess u see and hear something I dont.

As far as the Tom Ford reply. I was kind of disturbed by this too. He chose tom ford out of all the companies out here.
he could of named it after a black owned company that needs that level of promo since he's all about black excellence.


n*gga could of called it AKOO lol


tho what a banger

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 5 years ago '10        #3212
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Rap album of the year
 5 years ago '09        #3213
Ash10 21 heat pts21
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 5 years ago '10        #3214
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Finally got through my mandatory 3 end to end spins and added whip test. As more of a Jay critic rather than a full blown fan, must say this album didn't really blow me away but it is surprisingly good.
To me it is exactly what I would expect from Jay in 2013, especially if you paid attention to BP3 and WTT. It's like the best of those 2 and then sprinkle in Jay's penchant for borrowing contemporary flows and beats from today's up and comers and you get this album.
I would personally give it a 7/10, again not amazing but a good album with some weak spots. If you want substance, this is not the album for you, but I have never listened to Jay for substance. This album is about hearing Jay talk about himself, his life and his greatness over some bangers and he does throw in some jewels for the golden agers too. I mean "Heaven" is basically a Wu homage even rocking that Rza flow too and even using that "Arm Leg Leg Arm Head" (Allah) 5%'er ish that Rza loves to use. "Picasso" and "Nickels and Dimes" would probably round out my 3 fav songs on the album followed quickly by "Oceans" and "Somewhere In America". "BBC" is disappointing but kinda grows on you. Rick Ross should not have been featured but the beat saves that track, wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a Ross track to begin with. The Beyonce song and Tom Ford are probably the weakest tracks for me, but there is no joint I would say is an outright skippable. The biggest flaw for me is more based on my personal sickness of hearing Jay basically talk the same sh*t, but ultimately he does it in an entertaining way.
 5 years ago '10        #3215
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I just landed in Europe, n*gga
Shopping bags, I'm a tourist, n*gga
Money talk I speak fluent, n*gga
Reeboks on, I just do it, n*gga
Look at me, I'm pure n*gga
I bet the hoes on my tour, n*gga
Son fu*k Hov's verse this sh*t made me wanna toss on two gold chains and speed out the driveway going 90 MPH

Straight ignant sh*t

I love it
 5 years ago '07        #3216
S0ap 19 heat pts19
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 mravish23 said:
Gonjasufi - Nickels and Dimes



i knew i fu*king heard that sh*t somewhere before, i thought i was going crazy.
 5 years ago '08        #3217
matthew2777 2 heat pts
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 JeeQ said:
A few things I'll say about this album...

First off, the album is hot. I was expecting the production to come through based off the commercials and it did.

Secondly, Jay-Z is now officially Kanye Jr. Ever since Watch The Throne it's been clear. He's semi-Kanye. Quasi-Kanye. The margarine of Kanye. The Diet Coke of Kanye. Just one calorie, not Kanye enough. These two are almost twins at this point.

Thirdly, I hope Tom Ford sent Jay-Z a huge check. Best track on the album is a giant advertisement.
u have a very good analysis but let me clarify what is actually going on here:

kanye west is a gemini
jay z is a sagittarius

gemini and sagittarius are "opposite" signs, in astrology that basically means 1 coin, 2 faces.

so they actually make very good partnerships becuz theirs personalities actually reflect each other in a inner to outer way

and when they go together they do bounce off eachother and copy, becuz they recognize the same things in their own personality

sag is fire and gemini is air...feed off eachother


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 5 years ago '05        #3218
DanBootleg 210 heat pts210
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Is Holy Grail an original composition?
 5 years ago '04        #3219
DJ Maximum|M 51 heat pts51
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 JeeQ said:
Didn't look at the production list until I had given the album a ton of play. Confirmed what I've always felt for years, Timbaland is one of, if not the greatest producers of all time.
 07-06-2013, 02:21 PM         #3220
Danja2Society 
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 JeeQ said:
Didn't look at the production list until I had given the album a ton of play. Confirmed what I've always felt for years, Timbaland is one of, if not the greatest producers of all time.
No doubt

Had no idea he's responsible for the majority of the production on this album
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