Is J Cole talking about Hov on the second verse on Rich Niggas?

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 5 years ago '04        #21
justinjones 310 heat pts310
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 Kitsch said:
J.Cole uses stock drums.

And most if rap uses the same 8 vsts
 5 years ago '07        #22
RubbahBandMayn 6 heat pts
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 SpazzOut said:
Cole was throwing shots at Jay all over the album...
I thought the same sh*t
 5 years ago '09        #23
Chalky 314 heat pts314
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and j.cole murdered you on his whole sh*t
 5 years ago '13        #24
HipHopFactz 452 heat pts452
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Cole don't like Gayz deep down, its obvious, he understands it's a business deal, which will come to an end soon.

J Cole fav rapper is Pac followed by Nas, that should tell you everything you need to know
 5 years ago '13        #25
HipHopFactz 452 heat pts452
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 SpazzOut said:
"Beyoncé told me that she wanna cop the new Bugatti
That sh*t is more than what I'm worth I think she knew it probably
Well this is awkward, wanna know what else is really awkward?
When n*ggas buy rings for bi*ches I had flings with Im praying I don't see em at the Oscars"
Cole fu*ked Beyoncé?

 5 years ago '06        #26
chuckdirty 
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 KoKen said:
I dunno... Some of the lines throughout the album can come across disrespectful and brash especially considering he IS taking shots on the intro, it could be a new brash J Cole who's challenging his mentor

If you were Jay Z, would you not feel slightly disrespected the amount of times Cole comfortably said "fu*k him" on that intro?

I hate rich n*ggas goddammit
Cause I ain't never had a lot dammit
n*ggas can't front on the flows you got
But every fu*king verse how much dough you got
Homie, don't quit now hear my sh*t and tried to switch now.
Know you felt the sh*t just now, know you felt the sh*t just now

Ain't it more to you? Don't it ever get boring to you?
I realize deep down you a coward getting high off of power
fu*k it more to you, so I threw you
And it made me ashamed that I played the game
Not for more money like Damon Wayons
Wanted the respect but it came with fame
I just wanted love but it just ain't the same
I took a train down memory lane
And watching little Jermaine do his thang before he made a name
It's like Sony signed Basquiat
He gave it all he got now the n*gga don't paint the same.
I guess he can't complain
All the money that be raining in
Spend a hundred thou for the chain again
Thinking old school n*ggas like Dana and Dane
Probably k!ll for another claim to fame
My brain the same, yeah n*gga at least he ain't insane
You ain't crazy motherfu*ker you just afraid of change.
That's new, maybe that's true
But listen here I got a bigger fear
Of one day that I become you.

And I become lost and I become heartless
And numb from all the Ménages
Just one bi*ch don't feel the same no more
And Henny don't really k!ll the pain no more
Now I'm Cobain with a shotgun aimed at my brain
Cause I can't maintain no more.
Tad bit extreme I know.
Money can't save your soul.
But there go you

everything highlighted in here could go at about any rich rapper.. 50, jay, wayne, birdman, diddy, etc..
 5 years ago '04        #27
psylence2k 59 heat pts59
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 chuckdirty said:
everything highlighted in here could go at about any rich rapper.. 50, jay, wayne, birdman, diddy, etc..
It's not just about rich rappers tho, it's about rappers that rap about being rich.

50 raps about street shyt mostly

Wayne raps about eating pus*y mostly

nobody cares about birdman, and that "dope flow" line can't apply to him

Diddy isn't even a rapper
 06-09-2013, 02:50 PM         #28
2D.... 
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there were a lot of disrespectful lines toward him on the album...

lets not forget the jigga quote at the start of Rise and Shine
 5 years ago '08        #29
matthew2777 2 heat pts
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 2D.... said:
there were a lot of disrespectful lines toward him on the album...

lets not forget the jigga quote at the start of Rise and Shine
 06-09-2013, 02:59 PM         #30
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 justinjones said:
And most if rap uses the same 8 vsts
 5 years ago '06        #31
marcusaka50 59 heat pts59
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alot of his beats on this album is average but his lyrics is on point.

he needs have dope beats dope flows.

he must be cheap
 5 years ago '06        #32
Hit Em' Up 61 heat pts61
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 Bullseye said:
Either he intentionally was talking about Jay-Z (and will never admit it) or he was talking about Jay-Z, but did it unconsciously. Either way, it was about Jay.
...i think you mean subconsciously you dumb n*gga
 06-09-2013, 05:10 PM         #33
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Maybeeeeeeeeeee
 5 years ago '12        #34
RUBIO5 2 heat pts
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That verse applies to many rappers
 06-09-2013, 05:29 PM         #35
WavyCrockett 
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 KoKen said:
All I'm saying is the FIRST line on the whole album is "Sometimes I brag like Hov"
Think about the overall picture he's painted of Jay Z on this album with his lyrics, it's not that great...

Cole has himself admitted to putting subliminal messages in his music that goes over people's heads e.g. he says a lot of his "girl" tracks are about his relationship with hip hop and an interviewer mentioned that and he said "yeah a lot of people don't catch that" so I wouldn't put it past him to try and craft a perfect subliminal at Hov.

This album is him stepping up to his idols - he pushed his sh*t forward to compete with Kanye, talked about disappointing Nas and bringing up you owe me lol and saying "fu*k him again" bout Hov

Kendrick and Ab-Soul are over there talking bout their idols as competition now I think Cole wants to join the party



Agreed... as much as it's speculation, maybe there is something to those absence of jay and cole photos... and how Jay is always with Drake making more music than with his own artist



I fu*ks with this answer lol




"God bless the idols may they never be ya rivals"
doubt it
 06-09-2013, 05:31 PM         #36
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 Bullseye said:
Either he intentionally was talking about Jay-Z (and will never admit it) or he was talking about Jay-Z, but did it unconsciously. Either way, it was about Jay.

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 5 years ago '04        #37
selfishpimpin 5 heat pts
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I Always thought this was a Hov dis personally. I feel like he opens the line dissing him.


J.Cole See World


"Yeah I got a chip on my shoulder the size of the Golden Nugget
The industry overlook me for that I be holding grudges
Wouldn’t take a chance on me
Suddenly it's, oh you love it
Let's get a Cole feature that's gon' put you over budget
Picture being broke with no pot to p!ss in
And then suddenly your idols is your competition
Used to be like God to me, slowly losing my religion
As these notes from my composition turn to compositions, then
Put it out and hope the World sing
We sippin’ liquor for the pain that the World bring
We had dreams just to make it up the flag pole
Just to find out that out heroes were some a.ss holes
Y’all dont hear me, maybe you had the World figured out wrong
When these n*ggas go from singing our songs to waiting on you
Bout a year later the same ones be hatin’ on you
Every other record these rappers be faking on you
We singing songs but we know that ain't true
We know you gotta make the people pay you
Cause either you play the game or watch the game play you
And be that broke muthafu*ker talkin bout “I stay true”
 06-09-2013, 07:52 PM         #38
starving 
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definitely think you're reaching a bit, although it's not really a secret cole isnt the biggest jay-z fan


Last edited by starving; 06-09-2013 at 07:56 PM..
 5 years ago '07        #39
mross16 30 heat pts30
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Could it be aimed at Ye? Next couple bars he mentioned Power

Ain't it more to you? Don't it ever get boring to you?
I realize deep down you a coward getting high off of power

I'm probably reaching though

 5 years ago '08        #40
J.Nathan 
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 mross16 said:
Could it be aimed at Ye? Next couple bars he mentioned Power

Ain't it more to you? Don't it ever get boring to you?
I realize deep down you a coward getting high off of power

I'm probably reaching though

I was coming in here to say the same exact thing.

On top of that he made references to:

Being crazy - Ye is constantly flipping out in public and going on rants.

"And numb from all the Ménages" - Ye is always talking about ménages in his rhymes.

"And I become lost and I become heartless" - Title of Ye's song

"Just one bi*ch don't feel the same no more" - He's been rumored to fu*k around with multiple chicks in the past and cheated on Amber Rose w/ Kim K.

"And Henny don't really k!ll the pain no more" - The Taylor Swift incident

I could be reaching also, but that's just how it seems to me.
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