Is J Cole talking about Hov on the second verse on Rich Niggas?

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 5 years ago '04        #1
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KoKen 5 heat pts
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Is J Cole talking about Hov on the second verse on Rich n*ggas?
 

 

Surprised no one's mentioned this yet...

Reminds me of Eminem's Seduction track, where it sounded like blatant shots fired.. This sounds more like real man to man sh*t though like Hov showed him a side he didn't like and Cole doesn't really regard him as highly anymore...


Or am I reaching?


Last edited by KoKen; 06-09-2013 at 08:40 AM..

94 comments for "Is J Cole talking about Hov on the second verse on Rich Niggas?"

 5 years ago '09        #2
JewsusChrist 211 heat pts211
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It's a really dope verse but Ur reaching
 5 years ago '04        #3
KoKen 5 heat pts OP
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I dunno... Some of the lines throughout the album can come across disrespectful and brash especially considering he IS taking shots on the intro, it could be a new brash J Cole who's challenging his mentor

If you were Jay Z, would you not feel slightly disrespected the amount of times Cole comfortably said "fu*k him" on that intro?

I hate rich n*ggas goddammit
Cause I ain't never had a lot dammit
n*ggas can't front on the flows you got
But every fu*king verse how much dough you got
Homie, don't quit now hear my sh*t and tried to switch now.
Know you felt the sh*t just now, know you felt the sh*t just now

Ain't it more to you? Don't it ever get boring to you?
I realize deep down you a coward getting high off of power
fu*k it more to you, saw through you
And it made me ashamed that I played the game

Not for more money like Damon Wayons
Wanted the respect but it came with fame
I just wanted love but it just ain't the same
I took a train down memory lane
And watching little Jermaine do his thang before he made a name
It's like Sony signed Basquiat
He gave it all he got now the n*gga don't paint the same.
I guess he can't complain
All the money that be raining in
Spend a hundred thou for the chain again
Thinking old school n*ggas like Dana and Dane
Probably k!ll for another claim to fame
My brain the same, yeah n*gga at least he ain't insane
You ain't crazy motherfu*ker you just afraid of change.
That's new, maybe that's true
But listen here I got a bigger fear
Of one day that I become you.

And I become lost and I become heartless
And numb from all the Ménages
Just one bi*ch don't feel the same no more
And Henny don't really k!ll the pain no more
Now I'm Cobain with a shotgun aimed at my brain
Cause I can't maintain no more.
Tad bit extreme I know.
Money can't save your soul.
But there go you


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 5 years ago '04        #4
psylence2k 59 heat pts59
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 5 years ago '07        #5
Sincere730 12 heat pts12
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if the shoe fits...
 5 years ago '04        #6
psylence2k 59 heat pts59
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everything that's said can apply to Hov

this plus all the seemingly backhanded compliments he threw on the intro has me wondering

this whole time we thought Jay was avoiding Cole in photos maybe it was the other way around


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 5 years ago '07        #7
clipse_designz 
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it's more a shot at any mainstream rapper who only raps about wealth.
 5 years ago '04        #8
nitetrain8601 23 heat pts23
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Sounds like he is going at Jay. I mean, Jay spearheads that sh*t. All Watch The Throne was about was really money. Even murder To Excellence, he talks about becoming rich black folk. Jay's been on that sh*t for awhile.
 5 years ago '04        #9
psylence2k 59 heat pts59
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 nitetrain8601 said:
Sounds like he is going at Jay. I mean, Jay spearheads that sh*t. All Watch The Throne was about was really money. Even murder To Excellence, he talks about becoming rich black folk. Jay's been on that sh*t for awhile.
Jay is pretty much the poster boy for "Rich n*gga" rap at the moment
 5 years ago '04        #10
finishim 80 heat pts80
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or drake?
 5 years ago '07        #11
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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Either he intentionally was talking about Jay-Z (and will never admit it) or he was talking about Jay-Z, but did it unconsciously. Either way, it was about Jay.
 5 years ago '12        #12
inthecut 2 heat pts
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seems like this question requires some sort of intellectual answer...




































"Is J Cole talking about Hov on the second verse on Rich n*ggas?"


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 5 years ago '09        #13
JewsusChrist 211 heat pts211
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we can look at it like this

no jayz ft and has a song talking about nas and how much of a fan he was
 5 years ago '10        #14
Fly Elroy 321 heat pts321
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it actually does sound like subliminal shots at jay

and he said basquiat and you know how jay always talking about that n*gga
 5 years ago '10        #15
SpazzOut 63 heat pts63
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"Beyoncé told me that she wanna cop the new Bugatti
That sh*t is more than what I'm worth I think she knew it probably
Well this is awkward, wanna know what else is really awkward?
When n*ggas buy rings for bi*ches I had flings with Im praying I don't see em at the Oscars"
 5 years ago '10        #16
SpazzOut 63 heat pts63
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Cole was throwing shots at Jay all over the album...
 5 years ago '11        #17
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 SpazzOut said:
"Beyoncé told me that she wanna cop the new Bugatti
That sh*t is more than what I'm worth I think she knew it probably
Well this is awkward, wanna know what else is really awkward?
When n*ggas buy rings for bi*ches I had flings with Im praying I don't see em at the Oscars"

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 06-09-2013, 11:06 AM         #18
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J.Cole uses stock drums.

 5 years ago '04        #19
KoKen 5 heat pts OP
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All I'm saying is the FIRST line on the whole album is "Sometimes I brag like Hov"
Think about the overall picture he's painted of Jay Z on this album with his lyrics, it's not that great...

Cole has himself admitted to putting subliminal messages in his music that goes over people's heads e.g. he says a lot of his "girl" tracks are about his relationship with hip hop and an interviewer mentioned that and he said "yeah a lot of people don't catch that" so I wouldn't put it past him to try and craft a perfect subliminal at Hov.

This album is him stepping up to his idols - he pushed his sh*t forward to compete with Kanye, talked about disappointing Nas and bringing up you owe me lol and saying "fu*k him again" bout Hov

Kendrick and Ab-Soul are over there talking bout their idols as competition now I think Cole wants to join the party

 psylence2k said:
everything that's said can apply to Hov

this plus all the seemingly backhanded compliments he threw on the intro has me wondering

this whole time we thought Jay was avoiding Cole in photos maybe it was the other way around
Agreed... as much as it's speculation, maybe there is something to those absence of jay and cole photos... and how Jay is always with Drake making more music than with his own artist

 Bullseye said:
Either he intentionally was talking about Jay-Z (and will never admit it) or he was talking about Jay-Z, but did it unconsciously. Either way, it was about Jay.
I fu*ks with this answer lol


 JewsusChrist said:
we can look at it like this

no jayz ft and has a song talking about nas and how much of a fan he was
 5 years ago '04        #20
KoKen 5 heat pts OP
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 SpazzOut said:
"Beyoncé told me that she wanna cop the new Bugatti
That sh*t is more than what I'm worth I think she knew it probably
Well this is awkward, wanna know what else is really awkward?
When n*ggas buy rings for bi*ches I had flings with Im praying I don't see em at the Oscars"
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