J. Cole - “Born Sinner” | Anticipation x Discussion Thread

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 5 years ago '04        #301
certifiedplaya1 3 heat pts
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got to rich n*ggaz and i immediately felt the urge to play
the blk skinhead performance.Zzzzz cool lil album tho
 5 years ago '09        #302
aziatic6 
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first spin.. 1 minute through LAnd of Snakes this is feelin good
 5 years ago '11        #303
Prot3ge 
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 ballergenetics said:
That "Trouble" beat tho. Lawd 1/2 mercy....
 5 years ago '05        #304
Vancouver 11 heat pts11
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 sm00vb0iiw0nder said:
Then don't disregard the most important part of a concept album

9.2/10 for what it is

Production overall>>>
Concept and follow through >>>
Marketing trick >>>>> this is probably why I give him so much props
Lyrics were 7.5/10 though
Track to track production flow >>>>

As far as comparisons to GKMC, BS flows way better production wise and Cole's effort and emotion shows more clearly

Movie like skits and lyrics put GKMC ahead
It's a pretty loosely-constructed concept album, to be honest. It's not fu*king with the great rap concept albums like A Long Hot Summer, Disposable Arts, 4 Eva n a Day, A Grand Don't Come for Free, GKMC, etc. I agree with you that the production, especially the mood of the production, was impeccable. I think Cole was flowing his a.ss off too, I just don't think some of the songs are very good and/or are repetitious. The middle of the album really slows down. I think this album could be an out and out classic if it was 10 songs (not including skits):

Villuminati
Land of the Snakes
Power Trip
Mo Money
Trouble
Rich n*ggaz
Forbidden Fruit
Chaining Day
Ain't That Some sh*t
Let Nas Down

Don't get me wrong, I like Runaway and I like Crooked Smile. But how powerful would this album be as a 10 song album that finished with Let Nas Down? That symbolism of that, combined with the quality of these songs, would make this easily the best album of the year. Just my opinion.
 5 years ago '12        #305
King Jaffe Joe 23 heat pts23
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that sample from runaway sounds so familiar...
 5 years ago '09        #306
aziatic6 
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TROUBLE
 5 years ago '10        #307
SwooshWonder 13 heat pts13
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 Vancouver said:
It's a pretty loosely-constructed concept album, to be honest. It's not fu*king with the great rap concept albums like A Long Hot Summer, Disposable Arts, 4 Eva n a Day, A Grand Don't Come for Free, GKMC, etc. I agree with you that the production, especially the mood of the production, was impeccable. I think Cole was flowing his a.ss off too, I just don't think some of the songs are very good and/or are repetitious. The middle of the album really slows down. I think this album could be an out and out classic if it was 10 songs (not including skits):

Villuminati
Land of the Snakes
Power Trip
Mo Money
Trouble
Rich n*ggaz
Forbidden Fruit
Chaining Day
Ain't That Some sh*t
Let Nas Down

Don't get me wrong, I like Runaway and I like Crooked Smile. But how powerful would this album be as a 10 song album that finished with Let Nas Down? That symbolism of that, combined with the quality of these songs, would make this easily the best album of the year. Just my opinion.


I wanna see if he has some explanatory writing in the album booklet though. To give some more insight if he even ever decides to do that.

But I think it's necessary to include the skits/interludes as a part of the album to fully judge it. Like Masta Ace with ALHS had like 6 interludes on that joint. Kendrick had a skit after almost every song. If anything, I think Cole missed he mark with the immersion part of a concept album
 5 years ago '12        #308
Cubs Draco 141 heat pts141
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 aziatic6 said:
TROUBLE
i can't even get past it.
 5 years ago '12        #309
King Jaffe Joe 23 heat pts23
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8 tracks in and Villuminati is still the best track..
 5 years ago '06        #310
soso24 52 heat pts52
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This n*gga just dropped a fu*kin gem... No Soph. Slump
 5 years ago '09        #311
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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Chaining Day is so soulful
 5 years ago '05        #312
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 soso24 said:
This n*gga just dropped a fu*kin gem... No Soph. Slump
Word, I think we can all agree to this. Def no soph slump for Cole.
 5 years ago '12        #313
CaliSteppin 33 heat pts33
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It took me like 40 min to get past "Trouble"
 5 years ago '11        #314
Grizzab 11 heat pts11
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Ain't That Some sh*t



 5 years ago '11        #315
Donthate707 5 heat pts
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she knows and runaway are the only tracks im like ehh about
 5 years ago '08        #316
J_Clarity13 112 heat pts112
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she knows is kinda dope
 5 years ago '11        #317
Donthate707 5 heat pts
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everything else tho is fire cole world did it again

 5 years ago '09        #318
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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On first listen I'm feelin like this is a 8.5/10 really dope album
 5 years ago '04        #319
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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overall its better than his first album. all im asking for is improvement and he did that. i ain't mad at him

i wonder if he already flipped the same sample as suit and tie before that song dropped(chaining day)
 5 years ago '05        #320
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Better quality out yet?
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