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 5 years ago '12        #121
OC123 178 heat pts178
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 The Bully said:
no posts after game 3

no posts after game 5
that avy

 5 years ago '08        #122
Tecnique 27 heat pts27
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 lboog1423 said:
^^^Dont argue with these n*ggas man. Even if it was a travel that sh*t is made routinely and is NEVER called in games
Post a video of a stepback after a player already establishes a pivot


Ill wait
 05-29-2013, 12:45 PM         #123
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WOW! So much non basketball knowledge in this thread. n*ggas are truly showing their true colors in here. How bout you just go back to the stanning threads, and leave the basketball knowledge threads to the people that know basketball.

1. Wade Traveled a Mile
2. It's true that it is never called in the NBA, but if you have been watching this entire series, you will see that they refs have been calling the travel call more than usual, so obviously it is a point of emphasis this series.

Now I will break down why it is a travel.

The simplest definition of a travel is: establishing a pivot foot, after a previous pivot foot has already been established.

Now for the breakdown of how Wade traveled.

First: The travel was on the step back. (Don't know why this is a mystery to some of you)
Second: When he stepped with the right foot (to push off of) there was an OBVIOUS DELAY (as if he was not sure of what he wanted to do). This made the referee determine that this right foot was his pivot foot. From that point on, he can not longer establish another pivot foot.
Third: Once he decided to push off and step back and lands the left foot first it is still a legal move.
Fourth: Once he lands the right foot, it becomes a travel, because he has just established the left foot as his pivot foot, when previously his right foot had been the pivot foot.

NOTE: If he doesn't delay after the first right step, then this would not have been called, as the first step would have been considered a gather step, and would have been disregarded, as seen in the Derrick Rose highlight that was posted.

PS:

Look at the play that LeBron James made in a previous game where he caught the ball at the top of the key in front of the 3 point line, and stepped back without dribbling to shoot the 3 pointer. This is a CLEAR travel, though it was not called.

When he catches the ball with both feet on the floor, he has the option of making either his left or right foot his pivot. Once he raises his left foot to step back, the right foot AUTOMATICALLY becomes the pivot foot (because if he chooses, he can put the left foot down, and pivot around on the right foot as much as he wants). Once he stepped back with the right foot, and LANDS IT, the left foot becomes his pivot foot, and a travel should have been called. What he does afterwards plays no roll (shooting, passing, dribbling) the travel has occurred.

 5 years ago '07        #124
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 Cheeze said:


he catches the ball off the mario bounce and doesn't dribble it till after the shot fake

You fu*king idiots

Trying to say he shuffled a foot? The fu*k you think Hibbert been doing the whole series
stick to hockey.this aint your sport
 5 years ago '09        #125
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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It's a travel but because it was a star player and late in a hotly contested game on national TV it's being discussed ad nauseam.

Had this travel been called in the first quarter nobody would give one fu*k about it right now. That play is routinely allowed all year so the fact they called it when they did is what pisses me off.
 05-29-2013, 12:58 PM         #126
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 r.burgundy said:
stick to hockey.this aint your sport
You can't even rebut the fact he didn't dribble on the bounce pass from Chalmers

sh*t on in every sub forum on here

Now go ahead and bold PART of my response so you can pick and choose what to respond to like a bi*ch
 5 years ago '07        #127
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 Cheeze said:
You can't even rebut the fact he didn't dribble on the bounce pass from Chalmers

sh*t on in every sub forum on here

Now go ahead and bold PART of my response so you can pick and choose what to respond to like a bi*ch
where did i say he dribbled on tha bounce pass from chalmers?i'll wait...

like i said,stick to hockey
 5 years ago '10        #128
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 r.burgundy said:
where did i say he dribbled on tha bounce pass from chalmers?i'll wait...

like i said,stick to hockey
 r.burgundy said:
and he clearly bounces tha ball once after he catches tha ball from chalmers lol.wtf are u even watchin?duke stans
Ol selective memory a.ss n*gga
 05-29-2013, 01:08 PM         #129
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 r.burgundy said:
where did i say he dribbled on tha bounce pass from chalmers?i'll wait...
like i said,stick to hockey
 r.burgundy said:
and he clearly bounces tha ball once after he catches tha ball from chalmers lol
fu*king dumbass

go lift some more weights and have guys take pictures of you
 5 years ago '07        #130
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 lboog1423 said:
Ol selective memory a.ss n*gga
u might want to reread that 1 more time
 5 years ago '07        #131
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 Cheeze said:
fu*king dumbass

go lift some more weights and have guys take pictures of you
i know u are a couple beers short a 6 pack,so reread my post slowly lol
 5 years ago '05        #132
Nyse03 14 heat pts14
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Why do y'all watch basketball when y'all clearly don know the rules. THE STEPBACK WASN'T WHERE THE TRAVEL WAS CALLED IDIOTS.

When he caught the ball from Chalmers he moved BOTH feet before dribbling the ball...that is illegal and the call it all the time...especially on Jamal Crawford for example.

When you catch the ball in motion, your first foot planted cannot be moved again until the ball leaves your hand. Wade moved both feet before he started dribbling. It had absolutely nothing to do with that perfectly legal stepback.

Heat fans are the worse fans in the history of sports man. That was CLEARLY a shuffle of the pivot before dribbling.

Now log off young boys...go pick up a basketball rule book.
 5 years ago '05        #133
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 Cheeze said:
fu*king dumbass

go lift some more weights and have guys take pictures of you
you watch basketball and don't know the rules.
 05-29-2013, 01:15 PM         #134
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 Nyse03 said:
Why do y'all watch basketball when y'all clearly don know the rules. THE STEPBACK WASN'T WHERE THE TRAVEL WAS CALLED IDIOTS.

When he caught the ball from Chalmers he moved BOTH feet before dribbling the ball...that is illegal and the call it all the time...especially on Jamal Crawford for example.

When you catch the ball in motion, your first foot planted cannot be moved again until the ball leaves your hand. Wade moved both feet before he started dribbling. It had absolutely nothing to do with that perfectly legal stepback.

Heat fans are the worse fans in the history of sports man. That was CLEARLY a shuffle of the pivot before dribbling.

Now log off young boys...go pick up a basketball rule book.
That happens a million times a game and Hibbert does it all the time in the post but they don't call it
 5 years ago '12        #135
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At first I didn't think it was a travel, but it was.

when he touched the ball with his left hand with his right foot still on the ground that established the pivot foot. Then he did the step back, which was a travel.

Rose doesn't touch the ball with his offhand until after he does the step back so the comparison is stupid
 5 years ago '05        #136
Nyse03 14 heat pts14
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 Cheeze said:
That happens a million times a game and Hibbert does it all the time in the post but they don't call it
And big men usually get slapped around more without a call because they're big. But if you brush Lebron or Wade its a foul.

This isn't the point. It's a blatant travel if you know the rules of the game and they call it at least once every game. It had nothing to do with that legal stepback despite what all these young clowns are screaming about exposing their lack of basketball knowledge.
 5 years ago '12        #137
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 CosbySweater said:


@ 1:14
 5 years ago '05        #138
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 ScroogeMcDuck said:
At first I didn't think it was a travel, but it was.

when he touched the ball with his left hand with his right foot still on the ground that established the pivot foot. Then he did the step back, which was a travel.

Rose doesn't touch the ball with his offhand until after he does the step back so the comparison is stupid
It had nothing to do with the stepback. It was a late whistle which is why everyone is so thrown off. He moved both feet before establishing a dribble.

The stepback was fine.
 5 years ago '10        #139
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Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals was lamentably over-officiated, reducing an engaging contest to fits and starts. Few possessions Tuesday seemed to run their course without a whistle, and between them, the Pacers and Heat combined for 55 fouls despite the game’s glacial pace.

The referees made their presence felt throughout Indiana’s 99-92 victory, particularly in the final minute of the fourth quarter with crucial calls against Miami. The first was a moving screen violation called against LeBron James with 56 seconds remaining and the Heat trailing 96-92, his sixth foul. There’s some room for debate on the merits of that call, but at the very least James sidesteps in a way that trips Lance Stephenson before the Heat forward is able to establish proper screening position.


The second call, a traveling violation against Dwyane Wade with 26.9 seconds left and the Heat still down 96-92, proved to be even more questionable. In that instance, the whistle came on a sequence that Wade executes in virtually every game: the one-dribble step-back. After losing Paul George with an initial pump fake, Wade takes a single dribble inside the three-point arc, hops back to his opposite foot behind the line and settles in for yet another pump fake. In real time, the slow speed of Wade’s step-back makes the move seem illegal. But by slowing down the footage and evaluating Wade’s move according to the wording of the traveling rule, we find that isn’t the case:


For reference, here is the full text of the relevant passage from the NBA’s 2012-13 official rules (Rule 10, Section XIII, item b):

“A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble before his second step.
The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.”
The operative word is bolded above, as the most crucial determination to be made on this play is when Wade gains control of the ball. If he gathers his dribble either simultaneously or slightly after planting his foot (as appears to be the case), then his play is legitimate. If he gains control before taking that step, then it would count as the first in his sequence and thus make the play a violation.

In real time, the slow execution of Wade’s step-back seems to give it a physically impossible hitch — as if he paused for a brief moment in mid-air before landing. Plays with odd timing typically invite fan reaction and a possible whistle, and unfortunately Wade’s move proved too unusual for the officials to properly evaluate the legality of his footwork.

 5 years ago '07        #140
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 lboog1423 said:
Ol selective memory a.ss n*gga
props to u for bowing out gracefully after realizing your latest L
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