OFFICIAL Boardwalk Empire Season 4 DISCUSSION Thread

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OFFICIAL Boardwalk Empire Season 4 DISCUSSION Thread
 

 

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Boardwalk Empire is back on Sunday, Sept. 8.


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Man preview got me amped!
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Nucky is back on Sunday, Sept. 8
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Honestly I didn't give a shiit about this show, I just used to watch to pass the time. then somewhere along the second season it hit me that this is a damn good show, Now it's one of my favourite shows on tv. I can't wait for the new season
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DONT fu*k WIT THE NUCK
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knucky got a new bird, my man richard harrow is strapped and ready to catch more vodies, i fukking hope we're done with margaret and her righteous hypocrisy, her and her wack a.ss kids, i want to see her try to get accustomed to being poor.....again
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Breaking what? While the fate of Walter White is on everyone's mind as his journey kicks off in just over a week (take the phone off the hook folks!), a whole other breed of morally conflicted man is returning to the small screen too. In September, Nucky Thompson and the rest of the gang continue bootleggin' in the fourth season of "Boardwalk Empire," and some new images are here to give you a taste.

And what do they show off? Well, not much. Just that the cast—Steve Buscemi, Kelly Macdonald, Michael Shannon, Michael Stuhlbarg and more—all look appropriately handsome and attractive, as do the period sets they all coolly stand around on. However, the pics suggest that new threat Valentin Narcisse, played by Jeffrey Wright, may have an alliance with Michael K. Williams' Chalky White. The question for fans is the show might move a bit faster this season, as last year saw things wait until nearly the very end to start ramping up. But it's still a pretty fascinating world to dive into nonetheless.

"Boardwalk Empire" is back on Sunday, September 8th at 9 p.m. Pics below.


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MAN!!!!!!!! Richard is back?????

That scene with him on last years Finale was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV.

I...CANNOT...WAIT!!!

Also, looks like we'll be getting more Chalky this season!


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There needs to be a site with season recaps or something, because I watch so many series I have trouble remembering the last season of a show.
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sh*t, I still need to finish the 3rd season.

What's the verdict? Was it good?
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 PotheadFocker said:
There needs to be a site with season recaps or something, because I watch so many series I have trouble remembering the last season of a show.


Season 3 was one of the most exciting seasons on the ‘Boardwalk’ but is it enough to compete with Jimmy Darmody in seasons 1 and 2? We were introduced to an ensemble of new characters and story lines while others were suddenly stripped away. Many HBO fans that stray away from ‘Boardwalk’ do so because they feel that the show moves at too slow a pace. It’s hard to argue with that, but people need to look at the bigger picture. The very essence of story is the constant buildup of tension and conflict which ‘Boardwalk Empire’ accomplishes in a masterful way. All we can do now is sit back and wait until the premiere of season 4. But in the meantime, let’s take the opportunity to reflect on where our characters stand at the end of this epic season.

Nelson Van Alden got lost in the mix this year. After saving Dean O’Banion from Capone in episode one we got the feeling he would become a factor in the bootlegging trade in Chicago. We waited and waited for Nelson to play a more intricate role. After k!lling a disgruntled prohibition agent Van Alden goes to O’Banion for help. That’s it, he’s in. Right? Sort of. He plays a minuscule role distilling whisky in his kitchen. Sigrid finds new clientele in the Norwegian factions. Unbeknownst to Van Alden, that territory is under the control of Al Capone. The last time we see Nelson, Capone has a fork stuck in his face. It was very satisfying to see him lose his sh*t and burn a (former) coworkers face with a hot iron, but that was the pinnacle of Van Alden’s reduced screen time. His storyline never integrated into the main plot. As a result he disappeared in the last 2 episodes. I may be speaking too soon but something tells me Van Alden will play a big role next season.

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Charlie Luciano and Meyer Lansky in New York remain the portrait of young ambition on the ‘Boardwalk.’ After Rothstein denies their heroin proposal, the two venture off to find a new buyer – Joe Masseria. But Rothstein is on to their plan, using corrupt police connections to commandeer the 50lb stash. Luciano’s time under Rothstein is over but Lansky’s is just beginning. Charlie is at rock bottom, he’s lost everything on this failed investment. It will be interesting to see how he uses this situation to ascend to his now infamous place in history.

Arnold Rothstein’s political problems were left behind in season 1 thanks to the saving graces of Nucky Thompson and his political connections. But as season 3 continued to unravel so too did their relationship. After refusing to a.ssist Nucky in the wake of his failed a.ssassination, Rothstein sees an opportunity to line his pockets through the recently acquired Overholt distillery. The master gambler has fallen into Nucky’s trap. He clearly underestimated Mr. Thompson’s political connections. Now he’ll find himself in the midst of a large scale Federal indictment courtesy of Esther Randolph, Gaston Means and Andrew Mellon. It looks as if Rothstein will serve as the main antagonist of season 4, reminding us of the rivalry from season 1.

Nucky’s political problems have yet to be resolved but he certainly made some friends along the way. Newcomer Gaston Means lit up the screen this season. The unorthodox agent is a master of espionage with a host of powerful political allies. He serves as Nucky’s eyes in Harry Daugherty’s office as well as a middle man between he and Andrew Mellon, the US Treasurer. The a.ssassination/suicide of Jess Smith seemed to benefit everyone but we never learn what will come of Harry Daugherty. Despite limited screen time, these men in the Beltway remain some of the most fascinating characters on the ‘Boardwalk.’ With the huge political stakes now surrounding season 4, hopefully they will have an increased role.

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Margaret Thompson was all over the map this season. Her disintegrating relationship with Nucky was clearly her calling card but much of her screen time was dedicated to the Women’s Health Clinic alongside Dr. Mason. However, the heart of her story lies between Nucky and Owen. Margaret and Owen’s relationship reached new heights this season. The two make the bold choice to run away with one another. The stakes are raised even higher after Margaret discovers she’s pregnant with his child. Sadly, their plans are foiled when Owen returns to Atlantic City in a box. Margaret and the children flee to Brooklyn where she hopes to begin anew. She denies Nucky’s monetary incentive and returns to her room alone, symbolizing the end of their short lived marriage. Who knows, perhaps she’ll return to him next season. What do you think? I’ve given up trying to pinpoint what Margaret will be up to next. Her relationship with the Women’s Health Clinic along with Dr. Mason abruptly ended, making the entire ordeal seem like some sort of distraction. Likewise, her relationship with Owen was severed after his brutal murder. I can see Margaret reuniting with her family in New York but in the end she’ll return to Nucky. I can feel it.

Owen Slater was on of my favorite characters on the show. It’s a shame that he met his end in such a brutal fashion, but in the end his death was inevitable. His love affair with Margaret doomed him from the start, theres no way this relationship could have worked. Sure, they could run. But they never got the chance. Owen discovered that he was going to be a father on the eve of his a.ssassination. He was distracted, plain and simple. He failed to recognize the intricate details. You’ll be missed, Owen. It’s a shame, a damned shame, but inevitable nonetheless.

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In Chicago, Johnny Torrio’s time on top is coming to an end whereas Al Capone’s is just beginning. There’s never a dull moment with Capone on screen. His fiery disposition and short temper keeps the audience constantly on their toes. You never know what he’s going to do next. Capone kept himself busy throughout the season with a personal vendetta against Dean O’Banion along with the war in Atlantic City. His beef with O’Banion never amounted to much but it did give us a brief introduction between he and Van Alden, who was caught red-handed selling booze on Capone’s turf. Capone turned the tide in Atlantic City and now Nucky is in his debt. I can see Capone reemerging in season 4 as a HUGE problem for our protagonist. But that remains to be seen.

Little screen time was granted to Chalky White. He either played an integral part in the main plot or he was left on the cutting room floor. We all had a feeling that Nucky would one day come to Chalky for muscle and sure enough, he did. It was very satisfying to see Chalky and his men close out the season with guns blazing. He seems willing to sacrifice anything to get his club up and running. The victory in Atlantic City pretty much seals that deal. I’m sure his ground-breaking club will be at the center of some controversy come season 4.



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Eli Thompson began season 3 behind bars. His time in the joint seemed to have had a humbling effect on the once ambitious sheriff. Much of his screen time was dedicated to rebuilding his fractured relationship with Nucky. His older brother is obviously skeptical, the man tried to have him k!lled! But Eli proves his worth, gathering Capone’s forces in Chicago to tip the scales in Atlantic City. Now, ironically, Eli is Nucky’s closest a.ssociate. Has Eli’s ambition been quelled? Or does he still possess a lingering resentment for his elder brother? Is it something which could lead to a power-struggle between the pair?

Gillian Darmody emerged as one of the most dangerous players on the ‘Boardwalk.’ Her already dubious nature grew darker and darker as the season progressed. First, there was the murder of Roger, then the attempted a.ssassination of Gyp Rosetti. I didn’t expect Gillian to survive this season but sure enough, she did. With Tommy safely in Julia and Paul’s care, I can see Gillian taking her malice to the next level. Perhaps next season Richard will be forced to finish the job.

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Richard Harrow is one of, if not the most fascinating character on the ‘Boardwalk.’ He opened the season with a bang, literally – blasting Manny Horvitz in the face in episode one. He laid low for most of the season, focusing mainly on his personal relationships with Tommy, Gillian, and his new love interest, Julia. There were certainly flashes of his violent nature but nothing compared to his epic shootout in the Artemis Club in the season finale. What a performance! Whenever I think of season 3, thats the battle I’ll remember. But now it’s time for Richard to lay low once again. Is his time over in Atlantic City? Perhaps. But Tommy is safe and, “Thats all that matters.” What role will Richard play next season? Will he join Nucky? Or will he make new friends? I find it hard to believe that he’ll avoid Julia for very long. Sadly, we’ll have to wait and see.

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Gyp Rosetti proved to be no match for Nucky Thompson but he certainly left his mark on Atlantic City. Gyp captured our attention from the second he stepped on screen in the first scene of season 3. His uncontainable lust for power concerned even the highest ranking members of the bootlegging world. He even unnerved his employer, Joe Masseria. Rosetti absolutely shined on screen, I can’t remember a more ferocious character. His quick temper left little to the imagination. Even the slightest whiff of an insult could lead to a gruesome death. No matter the situation, he always felt like he had the upper hand. My favorite Rosetti moments weren’t necessarily his merciless tactics but came more from the brief glimpses of his private life. Unfortunately for him, he’s merely a middle man, a go-between. His actions reflect ambition for the highest levels of success. Rosetti met his end at the hands of his most trusted accomplice but his all-out a.ssault on Atlantic City taught our protagonist a valuable lesson – trust no one.

Nucky Thompson began season 3 in all-out gangster mode. All notions of compassion and mercy had seemingly been tossed to the wind. His relationship with Margaret had taken a back seat to his new love affair with actress Billie Kent. Nucky’s infatuation with Billie brought about some of the darkest moments in Nucky’s life. His addiction seemed to subdue the memory of Jimmy and set the stage for more than a couple dark new memories. Billie met her end at the hands of Gyp Rosetti in the climactic explosion on the ‘Boardwalk.’ Things would only grow worse. His closest a.ssociate, Owen, was returned in a box, Eddie Kesslar takes a bullet to the gut and Nucky finds himself on the run in the back of an old cargo truck. But this is his town, his home. There is no way is he going to flee while Rosetti enjoys the spoils of war. Nucky uses Chalky’s muscle along with reinforcements from Chicago to drive out the invading New Yorkers. Once again, against the toughest of odds, Nucky comes out on top. But now he’s rekindled past rivalries. The season ended with him baiting Arnold Rothstein into the acquisition of the Overholt distillery, formerly run by Andrew Mellon. Nucky’s true prowess is derived from his political background. He’s always a step ahead of the competition. But now he’s taken on a more subtle role, abandoning the flashy nature of most bootlegging kingpins and leaving his trademark carnation behind. Paranoia is a common trait amongst those in power. Nucky is no exception.

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Still with me? Good.

What a season! Many times when shows or films take on a more epic feel they often fall into the deadly pitfall of melodrama. Not ‘Boardwalk Empire.’ The show sticks to it’s roots – quality writing culminates with dramatic character revelation and realistic scenarios. ‘Boardwalk Empire’ continues to showcase the deadly price of ambition along with the brutal realities of what happens when you break your promises. But how does this season compare to the others? There were many instances that led me to believe that the show lacked consistency. The ghost of Jimmy, Margaret and the hospital, even the relationship between Nucky and Gyp seemed rather shallow and impersonal. Because, after all, “What the f*** is life if it’s not personal!” I would have loved to see one final confrontation between the two. Rather than Rosetti meeting his end at the hands of Tanino, I think we all would have enjoyed seeing Nucky finish the job personally. Hell, I wouldn’t mind having Gyp around for another season. Jimmy’s death in season 2 certainly left a void that’s difficult to fill. In many respects, Winter and the writing staff did a swell job of covering up the glitches. No matter how well we think we know our characters, like us, they’re always adapting and changing.

What problems await our protagonist next season? Did he come out a better man in the end? It’s interesting that our empathy towards Nucky grows with each episode. Despite all of his flaws and misgivings, we can’t help but love our troubled protagonist. I’ve given up doubting Nucky Thompson. Admittedly, I didn’t think he would survive this season. Boy was I wrong. But now we’re off to new adventures. HBO has an awesome lineup to keep us preoccupied until our next visit to Atlantic City. But that doesn’t mean we have to stop delving into the minds of our characters. What attracted you this season? What did you like? Dislike? Share your opinions here on HBOWatch. Want to write an article on your favorite characters? Go for it! Send in your articles and always remember – “You can’t be half a gangster.”


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It's almost time
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Favorite series on tv .... and its back this sunday

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damn i didn't even realize it came back on this Saturday
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Chalky going to die this season.
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