Honey Badger wont sign without guaranteed money

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 4 years ago '05        #1
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kurtd225 28 heat pts28
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Honey Badger wont sign without guaranteed money
 

 
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cardinals-third-round-safety-tyrann-mathieu-no-plans-231905507.html

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Even though Tyrann Mathieu was selected in the third-round of the 2013 NFL draft, the "Honey Badger", who was kicked out of LSU for multiple failed drug tests and was arrested last October for possession of marijuana, knows that he will have to continue to prove that his drug using days are behind him to remain in the NFL.

According to Peter King of Sports Illustrated, the Arizona Cardinals, who are moving Mathieu from cornerback to free safety, will include language in Mathieu's rookie contract that will allow them to randomly drug test the No. 69 pick of the draft, perhaps on a weekly basis. King also reports that Mathieu's rookie contract might not contain any guaranteed money.

Both approaches are allowed under the collective bargaining agreement. While Mathieu and his agent, Patrick Lawlor, should have no issues agreeing to the random drug testing — Mathieu will be tested at random by the league anyway —they should flat-out reject any contract offer that contains no guaranteed money as that would be an unprecedented deal.

Lawlor has denied that he has agreed to those terms.

"Ridiculous. Not gonna happen," Lawlor told Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network. "We had no contract discussion with them."

It's good that Lawlor has no plans to do that as "Shutdown Corner" has looked at rookie contract data dating back to the 2000 draft class and found no instance of a contract that contained zero guaranteed money. There were, however, examples of teams protecting themselves in contracts with players who were a bit of a risk.

Last season, the St. Louis Rams tried to play hardball with cornerback Janoris Jenkins, the No. 39 overall pick of the draft. The Rams reportedly wanteded to split Jenkins' $2,069,324 signing bonus into roster bonuses, but Jenkins won that standoff, receiving his full signing bonus and $2,964,824 in fully guaranteed money. The Rams' big win in those negotiations were to receive league minimum base salaries in all four seasons of the deal and Jenkins had to be on the team's 53-man roster (or injured reserve or the physically unable to perform lists) for the first regular season game to earn a partially-guaranteed roster bonus of $136,832 in 2013 and non-guaranteed roster bonuses of $273,665 (2014), and $410,498 (2015).

One model that the Cardinals and Lawlor could follow was the rookie contract that the New England Patriots and Aaron Hernandez reached in 2010.

Like Mathieu, Hernandez reportedly had failed some drug tests during his time in college. The Patriots took the former Florida standout in the fourth-round, the No. 113 overall pick that should have come with a contract worth $2.29 million and included a guaranteed signing bonus of around $500,000. Hernandez signed a deal that included relatively little in terms of guaranteed money — his signing bonus, the only portion of the deal that was guaranteed, was just $200,000, around 40 percent of what that draft slot should have received — but had a maximum value of $2.69 million as Hernandez could earn $388,000 in weekly roster bonuses (for being on the 53-man roster, injured reserve or physically unable to perform list) in all four seasons of the contract.

Hernandez earned all 48 of those roster bonuses over the last three seasons and can earn 16 more (worth $118,000 total) in 2013 as the "per game" roster bonuses remained even after signing his five-year, $37.5 million contract extension last October. Hernandez is "per game roster bonus" free in 2014, but can earn $31,250 per week ($500,000 over a full season) in "per game" roster bonuses from 2015 through 2018.

As the No. 69 overall pick, Mathieu's signing bonus should be in the $671,000 range. The Cardinals knew that before taking a chance on Mathieu, so they could, and arguably should bite the bullet and pay Mathieu the full amount. There are, however, ways for the two sides to find a middle ground before training camp opens in late July.

69 comments for "Honey Badger wont sign without guaranteed money"

 4 years ago '09        #2
Arob 20 heat pts20
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uh oh....
 4 years ago '04        #3
W24x55 49 heat pts49
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I have no idea why the Raiders passed on this guy.

Should have taken the chance and drafted him in the 3rd over Sio Moore.

Falls to the 3rd because of Marijuana? Big sh*t.
 4 years ago '05        #4
kurtd225 28 heat pts28 OP
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dude is a freak of nature with his play style
 4 years ago '06        #5
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who's gonna crack first




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 4 years ago '07        #6
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 W24x55 said:
I have no idea why the Raiders passed on this guy.

Should have taken the chance and drafted him in the 3rd over Sio Moore.

Falls to the 3rd because of Marijuana? Big sh*t.
Not one slip up with marijuana, it's being constantly tested positive for it and him not learning a thing.

Who's to say he's learned his lesson?
 4 years ago '08        #7
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 Kjizzle03 said:
who's gonna crack first

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I say Arizona caves in first
 4 years ago '07        #8
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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trying to slip homie the okie doke...cant blame em tho
 04-30-2013, 11:17 AM         #9
Braz 
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I don't understand how Da'Rick Rogers goes undrafted and this scumbag gets picked in the 3rd round. Rogers dominated his a.ss too
 4 years ago '06        #10
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 brazidee said:
I don't understand how Da'Rick Rogers goes undrafted and this scumbag gets picked in the 3rd round. Rogers dominated his a.ss too
Didn't Rogers have other off the field sh*t besides drugs?

Also shouldn't you be happy? You picked him up without using a draft pick. I was hoping Niners picked him up.


Also you know Tyrann's girlfriend was like "fu*k that sh*t, go get your guaranteed money."
 4 years ago '07        #11
HeckDaMonsta 2 heat pts
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good for him. You should get paid according to where ur picked.
 4 years ago '09        #12
5_star_smitty|m 207 heat pts207
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good for him...
fu*k that no guaranteed money for a 3rd rounder.
it's not like he's going to be making anything substantial
if the deal falls through harbaalk will pick him up with the quickness i think
 4 years ago '05        #13
Bea5T 137 heat pts137
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Wouldn't pay this degenerate guaranteed money either
 4 years ago '06        #14
eLLz 1 heat pts
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earn your money. he's certainly talented enough, don't fail your drug tests & you'll get paid. sounds reasonable as fu*k to me. it's not like it's a performance incentive based contract where they're requiring the n*gga to return 5 interceptions for touchdowns.
 4 years ago '05        #15
kurtd225 28 heat pts28 OP
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New Orleans should have taken him. fucc he was a back yard product
 04-30-2013, 11:53 AM         #16
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n*ggas acting like he was snorting coke





it's weed, there is nothing wrong with smoking weed and it shouldn't even be illegal. Yall bi*chass f*ggots the reason the sh*t still illegal right now.
 4 years ago '06        #17
eLLz 1 heat pts
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nobody is saying to incriminate dude though, yall are acting like jobs don't run drug test screenings. this sh*t is fairly common practice.
 04-30-2013, 11:56 AM         #18
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 Youngin19 said:
n*ggas acting like he was snorting coke





it's weed, there is nothing wrong with smoking weed and it shouldn't even be illegal. Yall bi*chass f*ggots the reason the sh*t still illegal right now.
But it's illegal..he knows it's illegal and that he has plenty to lose and yet he continues to do it, jeopardizing his future. This shows a lack of maturity, is that someone you'd want to shell out millions of dollars to?
 4 years ago '05        #19
kurtd225 28 heat pts28 OP
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i dont see a issue with the drug testing but damn u can give the man the guaranteed money. just make attach stimulation to it along with the random testing
 4 years ago '06        #20
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 kurtd225 said:
i dont see a issue with the drug testing but damn u can give the man the guaranteed money. just make attach stimulation to it along with the random testing
I'm more than sure the only incentive he needs to perform in order to get the money is to not fail drug tests. it really isn't that crazy when you break it down. its not as if he needs to perform on field at a certain level to get paid
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