Manny Pacquiao vs Brandon Rios[11-23-13][HBO-PPV]

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Pac by ko 6 46.15%
Pac by decision 4 30.77%
draw 0 0%
rios by ko 3 23.08%
rios by decision 0 0%
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 5 years ago '07        #521
ptwist 49 heat pts49
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Who gives a sh*t if Pacman isn't good enough for May..


who is at this point? Bradley maybe but he sparks no $ value to May on top of being on Top Rank... Pacman does because fans are wanting to his see his return to the top 3 PFP (although he is with TR as well).


Pacman right now ... or even when he had his 2 losses could still be May's biggest payday right now. And thats all May really needs at this point as long as Manny agrees to a smaller purse and perhaps 1 or 2 more wins.


Even if Floyd (will) wins... do you still want to see the f!ght out of intrigue? Yes... because somewhere deep in everyone's mind, people still think Manny can still do some sort of damage to Money. It needs to happen while both can still f!ght with their skill levels and speed.


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 11-24-2013, 10:46 AM         #522
elferoz 
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 caliman said:
When has Manny ever generated PPV $$$$ like Mayweather?! His biggest take home doesn't exceed $10 mil after Arum gets his cut! Manny never has done PPV numbers like Mayweather that's why negotiations always reach a stale mate! Manny asking for 50/50 when he has never made more than $10 a f!ght! He should have taken the $40 mil he was offered last negotiation! This will not be the f!ght people think it will be anyways! Mayweather will out box Manny any day of the week!
you are so misinformed.
 5 years ago '05        #523
monrowe 3 heat pts
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manny was the second highest draw to maywether when it felt like they would f!ght.. but at this point mayweather is stealling money from the fans but ppl come to see him f!ght or lose...its jsut good marketing none of it has to do with f!ghting .. as far as legacy tho mayweather needs pacman more than ther revese for the sake that money has a carreer like rocky marciano .. you know he had f!ghts but you cant find a definitive f!ght in his career.pacman has battles on his list so whne you look at history you have drama and what can be considered real competitiveness. if mayweather leaves right now you are either gonna say he was ahead of his time and no one was able to compete with him or he was over rated because he never took f!ghts when the other f!ghter was at thier strongest.

pac mans two loses one was stolen the other he was winning but took the shot that laid him out .. we see that sh*t in mma all the time. hit any body on the button and its the knockout game
 5 years ago '06        #524
Stupid Fresh 188 heat pts188
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is the post f!ght on youtube yet
 5 years ago '07        #525
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 monrowe said:
manny was the second highest draw to maywether when it felt like they would f!ght.. but at this point mayweather is stealling money from the fans but ppl come to see him f!ght or lose...its jsut good marketing none of it has to do with f!ghting .. as far as legacy tho mayweather needs pacman more than ther revese for the sake that money has a carreer like rocky marciano .. you know he had f!ghts but you cant find a definitive f!ght in his career.pacman has battles on his list so whne you look at history you have drama and what can be considered real competitiveness. if mayweather leaves right now you are either gonna say he was ahead of his time and no one was able to compete with him or he was over rated because he never took f!ghts when the other f!ghter was at thier strongest.

pac mans two loses one was stolen the other he was winning but took the shot that laid him out .. we see that sh*t in mma all the time. hit any body on the button and its the knockout game
floyd does not need manny for his legacy.wins over hernandez,corrales,hatton,canelo have him firmly on top of this generation.manny needs a legacy f!ght.his only real claim to fame outside of 135 is marquez who definitely deserves 2 wins over manny instead of 1

pac man was also outboxed by erik morales and their was no controversy.
 5 years ago '05        #526
JimDinO77 16 heat pts16
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 jj01 said:
so 1 f!ght is all you could come up with
That's a dumb argument to begin with... May fought cotto after he loss to pacman, fought zab judah after he lost, a couple more unremarkable f!ghts .... Ortiz was a nice match up but he cheap shotted him (yea yea, protect yourself at all times)...... There's only a few f!ght may could take that would even matter... Manny is in that handful, and he won't f!ght his boy bronner


 r.burgundy said:
f!ght could be considered a close win?he lost,and looked bad.bradley didnt stand in front of him and he looked like sh*t.arum said he didnt even want a rematch cause it was a boring f!ght for fans
So Bradley looked great against him? I didn't see that at all... Both were missing shots and it was a boring f!ght... But to say Pac was dominated
 5 years ago '06        #527
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Floyd definitely needs Manny...

Look years later and people are still saying floyd ducked... And guess what 20 years from now when people bring up floyd... they will still talk about how he ducked Pacquaio ... Its going to hurt his legacy regardless....

When Floyd gets interviewed... guess who always gets brought up... Manny...

It's never gonna change... he was always be looked at as a great f!ghter who ducked another great f!ghter....
 5 years ago '06        #528
dehdeh23 12 heat pts12
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why are mayweather stans in here so mad??? Lol.

He's f!ghting bradley next. Jmm after. Then if Floyd doesn't make another ridiculous demand then floyd if not retire.
 5 years ago '07        #529
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 JimDinO77 said:
That's a dumb argument to begin with... May fought cotto after he loss to pacman, fought zab judah after he lost, a couple more unremarkable f!ghts .... Ortiz was a nice match up but he cheap shotted him (yea yea, protect yourself at all times)...... There's only a few f!ght may could take that would even matter... Manny is in that handful, and he won't f!ght his boy bronner




So Bradley looked great against him? I didn't see that at all... Both were missing shots and it was a boring f!ght... But to say Pac was dominated
where did i say that?they both looked horrible and at this point,that f!ght would not be a big ppv draw

i didnt say that either
 5 years ago '06        #530
Stupid Fresh 188 heat pts188
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Same people saying Floyd needs Manny will be the same ones complaining when he beats Manny saying he should have fought him years ago

its a no win for Floyd and he knows that
 5 years ago '05        #531
JimDinO77 16 heat pts16
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 r.burgundy said:
where did i say that?they both looked horrible and at this point,that f!ght would not be a big ppv draw

i didnt say that either
Oh ok... I'm with you then
 5 years ago '05        #532
ChickzNKickz 100 heat pts100
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 RaulG said:
Floyd definitely needs Manny...

Look years later and people are still saying floyd ducked... And guess what 20 years from now when people bring up floyd... they will still talk about how he ducked Pacquaio ... Its going to hurt his legacy regardless....

When Floyd gets interviewed... guess who always gets brought up... Manny...

It's never gonna change... he was always be looked at as a great f!ghter who ducked another great f!ghter....
"Legacy" dont pay the bills

Ask Joe Louis
 11-24-2013, 12:51 PM         #533
Tha Problum 
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 RaulG said:
Floyd definitely needs Manny...

Look years later and people are still saying floyd ducked... And guess what 20 years from now when people bring up floyd... they will still talk about how he ducked Pacquaio ... Its going to hurt his legacy regardless....

When Floyd gets interviewed... guess who always gets brought up... Manny...

It's never gonna change... he was always be looked at as a great f!ghter who ducked another great f!ghter....
It's actually the other way around. Manny was sitting on tv right next to jmm, and next to rios, live television 15 minute segments, and literally all they talked about was mayweather. Mayweather is coming off making the guy who everyone thought was the most dangerous f!ghter in the sport in that weight range look like his son. Nobody is stanning to the point of calling out the best f!ghter of our generations legacy but manny apologists. n*gga just woke up from a year nap let's calm down.
 5 years ago '09        #534
Lil Jay 30 heat pts30
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 caliman said:
When has Manny ever generated PPV $$$$ like Mayweather?! His biggest take home doesn't exceed $10 mil after Arum gets his cut! Manny never has done PPV numbers like Mayweather that's why negotiations always reach a stale mate! Manny asking for 50/50 when he has never made more than $10 a f!ght! He should have taken the $40 mil he was offered last negotiation! This will not be the f!ght people think it will be anyways! Mayweather will out box Manny any day of the week!
I forgot ... Whoever makes the more money is the better boxer...
I also think Schuhmacher and Woods are by far better athletes than LeBron and company.
Thnx bro.
 11-24-2013, 02:19 PM         #535
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im not even a pacquiao fan (im a mayweather fan) but that n*gga got robbed one of the biggest robberies in a while. bradley lost in every aspect possible
 r.burgundy said:
f!ght could be considered a close win?he lost,and looked bad.bradley didnt stand in front of him and he looked like sh*t.arum said he didnt even want a rematch cause it was a boring f!ght for fans
 5 years ago '05        #536
tokinjohn 2464 heat pts2464
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 11-24-2013, 02:30 PM         #537
elferoz 
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 ChickzNKickz said:
"Legacy" dont pay the bills

Ask Joe Louis
floyd won't make more for this f!ght than any other?
 5 years ago '06        #538
jj01 
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 JimDinO77 said:
That's a dumb argument to begin with... May fought cotto after he loss to pacman, fought zab judah after he lost, a couple more unremarkable f!ghts .... Ortiz was a nice match up but he cheap shotted him (yea yea, protect yourself at all times)...... There's only a few f!ght may could take that would even matter... Manny is in that handful, and he won't f!ght his boy bronner




So Bradley looked great against him? I didn't see that at all... Both were missing shots and it was a boring f!ght... But to say Pac was dominated


everybody that floyd has fought has been coming off of their best win or a champ on a streak. nobody roid has fought aside from bradley is somebody you could say the same thing about.

roach ducked shane when shane beat margarito saying shane was too good to f!ght. like i said before manny's opponents have been a bad joke by top rank just to make roid look good. he f!ghts a boxer with technical skills and roid looks like sh*t. he's one of the most overrated f!ghters in history by far.
 5 years ago '06        #539
dehdeh23 12 heat pts12
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 r.burgundy said:
where did i say that?they both looked horrible and at this point,that f!ght would not be a big ppv draw

i didnt say that either

Pacquiao vs Bradley makes the most sense. A lot people want to see the rematch. Bradley just got some shine from beating Marquez recently too and was in the f!ght of the Year candidate in his win over provodnikov. Bradley Pacquiao II is happening.
 11-24-2013, 04:03 PM         #540
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yea but bradley didnt win that f!ght provodnikov washed that a.ss
 dehdeh23 said:
Pacquiao vs Bradley makes the most sense. A lot people want to see the rematch. Bradley just got some shine from beating Marquez recently too and was in the f!ght of the Year candidate in his win over provodnikov. Bradley Pacquiao II is happening.
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