Controversial/Interesting Discussion: Was 2Pac More Than Just A Rapper & What Did He Mean 2 U?

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 4 years ago '13        #141
Impeccable 208 heat pts208
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 Universal~Mind said:
And for all the clowns questioning Pac's Persona.... saying Juice changed him or.... Suge changed'em etc....

here's his motivation....


Ya'lls fav rapper went to jail and came back a religious headcase, soft and passive or artistically retarded......

sh*t effects people differently, ya'll should try having attempts on ya lives and see how the majority of ya'll come back with ya tails tucked....
Pac clearly had a fierce spirit with a motivation and vision that never got to fully unravel, and it wasn't just The Gov, or haters that was intimidated by it but rappers as well... Pac wasn't going to get weaker on the Mic anytime soon.... In FACT he got progressively more potent every album he dropped which is the complete opposite in Hip Hop today....

He didn't rap behind a gimmick or trend that would ever have the oppurtunity to run out... He spoke what was on his heart and mind, poetically and emotionally charged..... He didn't rely on beats to bring his songs to life, his words and presence brought beats to life.......

The only way Pac would ever fall off would've been when his candle wick went out, or when he lost interest.....

@19:45 listen to Pac's take on religion...... How many 30-40-50yearolds are spittin knowledge like that much less 25yo rappers.....?
WHAT?

Look at you eatin some average believe by Pac

I know 17 year olds that are more intellectual

fu*k outa here with this stannery



Yall all eating Pac because he's black. If a white person said the exact same thing, yall wouldn't be biting


Pac wasn't even that intelligent. We as black people overrate his intellect because we rarely know some1 that smart from our race. At least that's what it seems like.


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 4 years ago '13        #142
HipHopFactz 436 heat pts436
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the greatest most important rapper of all time
 4 years ago '07        #143
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 Bedewe22 said:
Nope. That n*gga was just a rapper to me.


yup, 2pac was a legend and made some great music but at the same time the people that took that thug life sh*t too far are lame as fu*k ... or did sh*t because Pac said it

i know some people that are still influenced (in a negative way) by music
 4 years ago '04        #144
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the only rappers that I think of outside of rap are:

Ice Cube, Will Smith, and LL Cool J for showing how you can earn money in a multitude of ways and drop the negative connotation of rap.

Master P and Jay-Z - keen business sense and work ethic

Pac to me was just a rapper, but he embodied some of the things that take you from the things that take you from Kevin Hart to....Richard Pryor. He had "it", whatever that is, mass appeal to almost all listeners of hip hop music. "Breand'a Got A Baby" was poetic and timeless. Although I wasn't his biggest fan lyrically, his delivery, flow, voice, and charisma were all in the top 10 of entertainment that I can think of.
 4 years ago '10        #145
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pac was the only god-like rapper there is...pac could say k!ll such n such n it would be done

although jay calls himself god every chance he get smh nobody doin wat jay say do...jayz not real to us so he doesnt exist
 4 years ago '04        #146
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n*gga was a role model to me. deeper than rap. this 1 min clip i saw in high school help me dodge alot of trife shyt...





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 4 years ago '13        #147
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Pac bein a role model

The same n*gga sodomizing women

The same n*gga that went to jail
 07-08-2013, 09:07 PM         #148
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Pac's stomped a dude out(Punk n*ggas jump people) in a Casino then got lit up in the street and didn't have his vest on. I understand the n*gga read a lot of books and sh*t. But he signed with Suge Knight who got knocked out by a barber, spitting at cameras, begging n*ggas to get him out of jail like he was doing life....


Pac went out like a dumb a.ss. Why the fu*k you in the streets mobbin with bloods and you ain't even about that life? Why you rappin about who got you shot when you could have put a hit on the n*ggas that did it(Funny how nobody from the west coast went at Jimmy Henchman but made sure they k!lled Biggie).

Pac was Jealous of Big's success. Biggie brought the east coast back to the top of the charts. Snoop WAS HIP HOP at that time. Pac used Big as a way to make them millions. He never hit that superstar status until Big's name came out his mouth.


And since everybody wants to say the dude was super smart........ WHY THE fu*k COULDNT THE n*gga GET A RECORD DEAL THAT WAS IN HIS FAVOR???? That dude got a.ss fu*ked to hell on every record he put out. I never heard nobody from Big's camp say Biggie had a sh*tty deal.
 4 years ago '04        #149
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 palogee said:
Pac's stomped a dude out(Punk n*ggas jump people) in a Casino then got lit up in the street and didn't have his vest on. I understand the n*gga read a lot of books and sh*t. But he signed with Suge Knight who got knocked out by a barber, spitting at cameras, begging n*ggas to get him out of jail like he was doing life....


Pac went out like a dumb a.ss. Why the fu*k you in the streets mobbin with bloods and you ain't even about that life? Why you rappin about who got you shot when you could have put a hit on the n*ggas that did it(Funny how nobody from the west coast went at Jimmy Henchman but made sure they k!lled Biggie).

Pac was Jealous of Big's success. Biggie brought the east coast back to the top of the charts. Snoop WAS HIP HOP at that time. Pac used Big as a way to make them millions. He never hit that superstar status until Big's name came out his mouth.


And since everybody wants to say the dude was super smart........ WHY THE fu*k COULDNT THE n*gga GET A RECORD DEAL THAT WAS IN HIS FAVOR???? That dude got a.ss fu*ked to hell on every record he put out. I never heard nobody from Big's camp say Biggie had a sh*tty deal.

This guy doesnt know what the hell he's talking about...

Pac started Thug life which brought the crips and bloods together in 92. He wasn't a new age blood or crip shooting and k!lling but one initiated by the black panthers he had ties too. remember the.... C.R.I.P. (Community Resistance In Progress) and Blood (fu*k with the community we all blood around here) aimed at crooked law's before the break up of the black panthers? He was bringing that back together. To give the less fortune a voice.

"Remember you taught me never go to war until I got my money right" in Against all odds was aimed at henchman. he died before he executed. you should read the art of war. you dont attack until that perfect moment he executed the laws perfectly.

jealous of big success?

"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without f!ghting is the acme of skill." - Sun Tzu

he took down bad boy Dynasty in record sales and was moving in their territory with death Row East. he was gunning for henchman next...



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talks about surpassing the bad boy dynasty @3:15sec...


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^ whole video shows why he was mad.


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 4 years ago '05        #150
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 Socialconscious said:
Dude, I was 15 or 16 when most of his music came out. Please tell me how old you were then? I'm curious because most of the cats over hyping his AND Biggie's sh*t weren't even listening to his music then. I remember the reactions to his music got then. I remember the reactions to Nas and Jay-Z's sh*t back then. That is why I'm always baffled why people will name their top five and automatically include Nas, Tupac, and Biggie. Not saying they ain't talented but they are over hyped because they were 90's artists and two of them are dead, period. People stay hating on n*ggas making radio joints, but you gonna pretend, Biggie, Nas, and Tupac didn't make them? I don't really care what anyone thinks. I know half these n*ggas here don't know two sh*ts about who is GOAT but will name Tupac and Biggie because everyone else is doing it. Them n*ggas ain't the end all to all Hip Hop talent. And the fact Tupac was fake still doesn't change. Fake 90's nostalgic people are funny as hell.
Pac all day no one comes close he in his own category that now will be able to touch all his music great beside the posthumous albums im say everyday after better days was horrible one thing about you always got your money worth when you copping his album not no hoping its gonna be good don't wanna waste my money . you say he is not versatile dear mama to hit em up , keep ya head up, how do you want it. dude was the most versatile artist of his time
 07-09-2013, 09:50 AM         #151
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 Analytical One said:
You couldn't debunk anything I said.

Just accept the fact that some people have dignity, and don't feel required to worship, idolize and over-celebrate certain rappers just because they're dead.

He's a good rapper who was propelled to G.O.A.T. status via martyrdom.

It's disgrace to regard him as an artist on the same level as the likes of Marvin Gaye, Fela Kuti, Marvin Gaye, et al., let alone among the best that hip-hop has to offer.

But the majority of you Tupac groupies have the most hilarious criterion for rating why Tupac is the greatest, which often includes him dying at 25, having a couple statues in some obscure country, being "fearless" aby disrespecting every rapper when he was alive, and him having recorded an abundance of songs (regardless of tge quality of the songs)--which are hilariously awful reasons to consider anybody the greatest rapper of all time, yet almost all reasons are used by Tupac fans to justify why he's to be consider the G.O.A.T.
Who's worshipping him ? I'm not.... i never once said he's in the leagues of beatles, jimi hendrix, frank sinatra, BUT he is a legend in the rap game. i don't see anybody in current times comparing to him.

by the way you sound like a broken record bro.... your repeating your comments over and over again. As far as 2pac insulting people. Nas,mobb deep, fugees etc He didn't like them considering they bad mouthed him.

Not sure if you were even born yet when he was going through these beefs years back, but i remember quite well actually. you don't recall mobb deep making a single LA,LA ? what about biggie's Who shot ya ?? east coast was going at it with west coast. So its wrong pac came back out and insulted them with hit em up, when we ride on our enemies, and quite a few other tracks? I think not.

I'm starting to think your one of these youngsters on here that talks highly of drake and lil wayne. you just came onto this thread to start nonsense
 4 years ago '09        #152
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Ya'll don't realize the power of music, Bob Marley was basically the Pac of the Caribbean, except over there they didn't/don't have to deal with foreign people, for the most part. The fact is that both these men touched lives with their music, Pac and Marley had one thing in common, speaking of the struggle that they were in and more importantly, liberation and the call for liberation via self-revolution. They also had more social music and political music than party/chart topping music. Same thing with Micheal Jackson, Micheal had more legroom, but his creativity in his music expressed the very thing Pac and Bob Marley was talking about, you could relate to all these "music stars", and love their music at the same time...

Tupac is to Hip Hop and Black America as to what Bob Marley is to Reggae and Caribbean and to some extent, Africa.

Just connect the dots, cause it's all there.
 4 years ago '07        #153
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 420Sosa said:
Ya'll don't realize the power of music, Bob Marley was basically the Pac of the Caribbean, except over there they didn't/don't have to deal with foreign people, for the most part. The fact is that both these men touched lives with their music, Pac and Marley had one thing in common, speaking of the struggle that they were in and more importantly, liberation and the call for liberation via self-revolution. They also had more social music and political music than party/chart topping music. Same thing with Micheal Jackson, Micheal had more legroom, but his creativity in his music expressed the very thing Pac and Bob Marley was talking about, you could relate to all these "music stars", and love their music at the same time...

Tupac is to Hip Hop and Black America as to what Bob Marley is to Reggae and Caribbean and to some extent, Africa.

Just connect the dots, cause it's all there.
 4 years ago '09        #154
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 Root Of Evil said:
Look at the history of Reggae and Hip Hop, look at their top or most acclaimed artists; Bob Marley and Tupac, respectively has this title bestowed by people within and outsiders looking in. They are both internationally recognized musical figures, who preached similar messages of liberation for their particular region/people. Pac, at the age of 25, seemed to be influencing the political and militaristic minds of young Blacks of/in America, as far as influence goes. Bob Marley basically was the voice of the Black People of the Caribbean, in particular Jamaica, but he is also recognized internationally. They both talked and made music about their plight and liberation of their people as well as some personal music, with pop crossovers.

but you don't hear me tho!
 4 years ago '06        #155
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Buncha n*ggas tryna down play Pac's relevance here I see. Revisionist history is a mafukka. n*ggas even claiming they were old enough to remember Pac's prime, acting like he didn't have hip hop on lock & was about to take it to movies on a next level. It's truly sad that hip hop as a community doesn't embrace it's legends after their prime. Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Janice Joplin, Sid Vicious, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Moon, Charlie Parker, and many more artists in other genres died in or right before their primes. These artists are revered and their faults aren't forgotten, but rather subdued by their greatness. If they were rappers, you n*ggas would find every reason to tear them down. Even to the point of spouting opinion as facts. Fuggin lames. Tearing down legends do not make these gumps out today better than they are. n*ggas outta learn to appreciate greatness instead of trying to exalt mediocrity.
 07-09-2013, 04:44 PM         #156
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he was a visionary and spiritually on a level that these rappers don't have the soul to reach
 4 years ago '09        #157
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 palogee said:
Pac's stomped a dude out(Punk n*ggas jump people) in a Casino then got lit up in the street and didn't have his vest on. I understand the n*gga read a lot of books and sh*t. But he signed with Suge Knight who got knocked out by a barber, spitting at cameras, begging n*ggas to get him out of jail like he was doing life....


Pac went out like a dumb a.ss. Why the fu*k you in the streets mobbin with bloods and you ain't even about that life? Why you rappin about who got you shot when you could have put a hit on the n*ggas that did it(Funny how nobody from the west coast went at Jimmy Henchman but made sure they k!lled Biggie).

Pac was Jealous of Big's success. Biggie brought the east coast back to the top of the charts. Snoop WAS HIP HOP at that time. Pac used Big as a way to make them millions. He never hit that superstar status until Big's name came out his mouth.


And since everybody wants to say the dude was super smart........ WHY THE fu*k COULDNT THE n*gga GET A RECORD DEAL THAT WAS IN HIS FAVOR???? That dude got a.ss fu*ked to hell on every record he put out. I never heard nobody from Big's camp say Biggie had a sh*tty deal.
God damn what the hell this n*gga talkin bout?
 4 years ago '13        #158
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Rest In Peace to my n*gga 2Pac, definitely look forward to meeting you in the afterlife. I got nothing but genuine love for you. So if you got internet access up there and lookin at this lol. #fu*kwitchan*gga, and when i come through let me stay at ya Thug Mansion. GOD BLESS THE DEAD.


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