Apr 17 - Gun control amendment fails in Senate

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 5 years ago '06        #141
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"The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo."
 5 years ago '07        #142
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 Ghost Writer said:
What benefits do gun activists gain by allowing people to purchase guns without a background check? If anyone can answer that I will really consider changing my opinion.

It was a vote based purely off of fear of rejection from a well funded and politically generous organization known as the NRA.
we already have background checks tho.they just want much more invasive checks
 5 years ago '07        #143
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 r.burgundy said:
we already have background checks tho.they just want much more invasive checks
again not knowing what the fu*k you're talking about.
 5 years ago '11        #144
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 StatisticZ said:
False.

The Virginia tech shooter only had ten round magazines IIRC.. He k!lled 32?..

I could shoot 10 10 round magazines, accurately into the center and headmass of a target, in half that time.. Before any weapons manipulation training.
32 over a span of 3 hours. Not 3 mins. Try again.
 5 years ago '07        #145
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 Kadillac87 said:
Not likely. Not in that amount of time. 154 rounds in 3 mins.
is tha issue tha rounds he shot or tha people who were k!lled?
 5 years ago '07        #146
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 J Money B&W said:
"The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo."
where did you get this from? cause its bullsh*t, Un resolutions dont trump US law. you know the only other countries to not ratify this? Iran, N. Korea and Syria. in some great company
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 minimafiaaj said:
again not knowing what the fu*k you're talking about.
we dont have background checks on firearms now?

lord lesus take tha wheel
 5 years ago '07        #148
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 r.burgundy said:
we dont have background checks on firearms now?

lord lesus take tha wheel
is that what i said? No its not. the background checks this legislation would have implemented wouldnt become "more invasive", they became universal.
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 r.burgundy said:
is tha issue tha rounds he shot or tha people who were k!lled?
The issue is that he able to k!ll 26 people in a short amount of time. Even with fast police response.
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 minimafiaaj said:
is that what i said? you're fu*king retarded, the background checks didint become "more invasive", they became universal. try again with a new buzzword.
thats your opinion.your entitled to it
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 r.burgundy said:
thats your opinion.your entitled to it

no what i stated is the reality, verified by facts. Show the proof you have that this legislation made them "more invasive". I dont think you know what the word opinion means.
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 minimafiaaj said:
no what i stated is the reality, verified by facts. Show the proof you have that this legislation made them "more invasive". I dont think you know what the word opinion means.
Maybe he meant pervasive, as in more of them, as in gun shows etc.
 5 years ago '07        #154
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 Kadillac87 said:
The issue is that he able to k!ll 26 people in a short amount of time. Even with fast police response.
and if he did,then what?where does it stop?this country always wants to attack problems cosmetically,they never want to get to tha root.bottom line is,nothin short of tha existence of semi auto weapons would've prevented newtown.it wasnt tha 1st,nor will it be tha last
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 minimafiaaj said:
can you not comprehend what you read? The bill that was voted today, was just background checks. It started out with more. It was then watered down b4 the vote. Presumably to try and get more support. Do you need me to explain this to you again?
I guess I have to quote you to get an answer. As an outsider, how do I understand what your point is, which seems to be against gun control, when the 2nd amendment states that "a well regulated militia" has the right to bear arms, when your argument is one of a private citizen? To me, the constitution does not give you any rights to bear arms, but I'm not American so I might be missing something here.
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 minimafiaaj said:
no what i stated is the reality, verified by facts. Show the proof you have that this legislation made them "more invasive". I dont think you know what the word opinion means.
He hasn't showed in facts all thread. He's not going to start now. Every time someone calls him out on his faulty logic, he just pivots to another topic by asking a question. I fully expect him to respond to your request for proof by asking a total unrelated question to gun violence or magazine size.

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 minimafiaaj said:
no what i stated is the reality, verified by facts. Show the proof you have that this legislation made them "more invasive". I dont think you know what the word opinion means.


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 YARKONE said:
I guess I have to quote you to get an answer. As an outsider, how do I understand what your point is, which seems to be against gun control, when the 2nd amendment states that "a well regulated militia" has the right to bear arms, when your argument is one of a private citizen? To me, the constitution does not give you any rights to bear arms, but I'm not American so I might be missing something here.
No im for "gun control" you could call it, now do i think we should run around taking guns from regular ppl? no. we have over 300 million guns in this country, even if we wanted to do that(which would be stupid) it would be logistically impossible. All i was saying is that this specific legislation didnt do much, and prob wouldnt have changed much imo, but it was still attacked as taking freedoms away. And the NRA (the lobbying ppl for the gun industry...and "owners")flat out lied and misrepresented it.
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 r.burgundy said:
and if he did,then what?where does it stop?this country always wants to attack problems cosmetically,they never want to get to tha root.bottom line is,nothin short of tha existence of semi auto weapons would've prevented newtown.it wasnt tha 1st,nor will it be tha last
So you're saying a.ssault weapon ban would've prevented the tragedy but you're against gun control.


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 Ghost Writer said:
Burgandy it seems as if your taking this argument as a personal f!ght with another member. Why don't you logically and calmly explain to me your issue with background checks because even the people who voted against it don't agree with you. They were just scared.
scared of what?
i have no issue wit background checks,i just feel tha laws are fine as they are
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