Apr 17 - Gun control amendment fails in Senate

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 5 years ago '07        #61
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 minimafiaaj said:
which is my point i made earlier, it just illuminates how crazy this debate has begun. Even the most watered down bullsh*t is lauded as "infringing on rights" and all other types of fact free sh*t. The NRA literally controls lots of these legislators on both sides. Filibuster and the interests of the NRA trumped everything else. NRA flat out lying about what the bill entailed.
maybe because things actually do infringe on our rights.its not so much our right to own a gun thats under attack as it is our right to own 1 privately.that is,and should be everybody's issue
 5 years ago '07        #62
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 Kadillac87 said:
Apparently the United Police States of America.
didnt knw tha united states was a state.learn somethin new everyday
 5 years ago '07        #63
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 r.burgundy said:
maybe because things actually do infringe on our rights.its not so much our right to own a gun thats under attack as it is our right to own 1 privately.that is,and should be everybody's issue
what was proposed here doesn't attack gun rights.
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 r.burgundy said:
didnt knw tha united states was a state.learn somethin new everyday
Didn't know gun control has already turned this country into a police state. So we're in agreement that the gun control laws passed by Reagan took away our civil liberties so the government could take over right?
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 r.burgundy said:
maybe because things actually do infringe on our rights.its not so much our right to own a gun thats under attack as it is our right to own 1 privately.that is,and should be everybody's issue
incorrect. the issue is the rise in recent mass-murders of innocent people, most of which were caused by legally obtained guns, by people that shouldnt have had guns in the 1st place. fixing that is the ONLY issue

also this:

 minimafiaaj said:
what was proposed here doesn't attack gun rights.
 5 years ago '07        #66
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 minimafiaaj said:
what was proposed here doesn't attack gun rights.
it attacks privacy rights
 5 years ago '07        #67
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 r.burgundy said:
it attacks privacy rights
how? if you go to buy a gun from a federally registered dealer you get a background check. that doesn't attack privacy rights... they just tried to make that universal.
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 Mr AirRic said:
incorrect. the issue is the rise in recent mass-murders of innocent people, most of which were caused by legally obtained guns, by people that shouldnt have had guns in the 1st place. fixing that is the ONLY issue

also this:
in tha case of sandy hook,tha guns were said to be owned by his mother,in tha case of colorado,james holmes had no issue of mental illness

so what law exactly wouldve prevented these?
 5 years ago '07        #69
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 minimafiaaj said:
how? if you go to buy a gun from a federally registered dealer you get a background check. that doesn't attack privacy rights... they just tried to make that universal.
cali already keeps a massive data base.people feel that all this is,and i agree
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 Kadillac87 said:
Didn't know gun control has already turned this country into a police state. So we're in agreement that the gun control laws passed by Reagan took away our civil liberties so the government could take over right?
all it takes is gun control laws to turn into a police state is what ur implying?
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 r.burgundy said:
cali already keeps a massive data base.people feel that all this is,and i agree
you do know a federal gun registry is already banned, actually its been banned 2 separate times...and this bill also includes, guess what? a felony for trying to create a gun database. So the bill that is designed to be a massive database includes a felony conviction for doing just that. your "feelings" are just that, and dont reflect the facts.
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 minimafiaaj said:
you do know a federal gun registry is already banned, actually its been banned 2 separate times...and this bill also includes, guess what? a felony for trying to create a gun database. So the bill that is designed to be a massive database includes a felony conviction for doing just that. your "feelings" are just that, and dont reflect the facts.
so u mean to tell me that tha feds are gonna police tha feds?ok man

my feelings seem to reflect a majority as tha legislation was shot down
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 r.burgundy said:
in tha case of sandy hook,tha guns were said to be owned by his mother,in tha case of colorado,james holmes had no issue of mental illness

so what law exactly wouldve prevented these?
yes, thats 1 example, or theres most of these mass-shootings, where guns were obtained legally by the shooter:

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 r.burgundy said:
in tha case of sandy hook,tha guns were said to be owned by his mother,in tha case of colorado,james holmes had no issue of mental illness

so what law exactly wouldve prevented these?
James Holmes was already flagged by school psychiatrist as being a threat with homicidal tendencies about a year before the shooting.
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 r.burgundy said:

my feelings seem to reflect a majority as tha legislation was shot down
huh? you do realize the the majority actually voted for the legislation right? not to mention 90% of americans supported it as well. not to mention nobody is backing you up right now while you have at least 3 people saying youre wrong
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 r.burgundy said:
so u mean to tell me that tha feds are gonna police tha feds?ok man

my feelings seem to reflect a majority as tha legislation was shot down
the majority? you know the only reason it failed was because they couldn't get a fillibuster proof majority right? idiot lol. they had a regular majority. you have no idea what you're talking about.
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 Kadillac87 said:
Sandy Hook was staged they said. To take away our guns they said. Conspiracy theorists loses again

I don't think sandy hook was staged, but the gun bill passed in Connecticut is strict, also there are petitions to take guns away in the state, as Dannel Malloy said "this is only the beginning"
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 J Money B&W said:
I don't think sandy hook was staged, but the gun bill passed in Connecticut is strict, also there are petitions to take guns away in the state, as Dannel Malloy said "this is only the beginning"
The beginning of what? They're gonna take guns away and put people in concentration camp?


Our economy is based on people buying things. The government makes no money from taking people rights away and controlling them. China already has that market covered. If it don't make dollars then it don't make sense. Tell me who is going to make money from taking guns away? Nobody.
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 Mr AirRic said:
yes, thats 1 example, or theres most of these mass-shootings, where guns were obtained legally by the shooter:

every law sounds good in theory,but sh*t just doesnt work in practice
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