Jay Z Ft. Timbaland - Open Letter (Prod. by Swizz Beatz)

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 5 years ago '05        #221
Vancouver 11 heat pts11
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 Vos said:
The Black Album, American Gangster, Watch The Throne...all the GREAT guest verses since that time...fu*k, his best guest verses EVER came out after 2002 (Diamonds remix, Free Mason, Go Crazy, Shiny Suit Theory). You're clearly either a) hating for the sake of it or b) very stupid or c) both.

and Ether is one of the most overrated diss tracks of all time. Handful of good lines mixed with a ton of immature and juvenile insults. d!cksuckin lips? c*ckafella? Gay-Z? Rockefeller dying for AIDS (which even if it were true it wouldn't matter)...rocking hoes while Jay rocks fellas? Accusing Jay of being a male chauvinist while starting the third verse with 'ya'll deal with emotions like bi*ches'? Accusing Jay of 'selling out' when Nas recorded Oochie Walley and You Owe Me? fu*k off, honestly.
No, don't even try. You cannot argue that Ether was overrated because when it hit, it had Jay crying on public radio. Game over. No argument to be made at all. Your opinion now is invalidated by history.

I agree though that Jay was dope on the Black album and some guest verses from there to around, I don't know, 2010 or so. American Gangster was pretty dope too. But since coming back from BA, he has one hot album (AG) out of four (KC, AG, BP3, WTT). WTT was NOT good. Jay has been weaker on features recently, too. He's clearly only half trying. And I'm not even gonna get into his content and why that pushes him further down the list of best rappers of all time (calling Jay the best rapper alive is just laughable, given his almost uniformly one-dimensional content. And I know he can do more, we all do, it's peppered through his catalogue, but he usually doesn't).
 5 years ago '10        #222
bc23 1 heat pts
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Stan war in full effect
 5 years ago '05        #223
Emperor85 
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did he really say "might buy a kilo from chief keef"
 5 years ago '05        #224
Philly B 41 heat pts41
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Finally listened to the track, lyrics were on point.

Beat was eh.

Swizz wasn't even that bad in this, people need to stop bi*ching and stop acting like Swizz ain't always been like that.

Gotta respect Jay for being able to get a statement from the White House and having a track like this get some much publicity. Song was straight for what it is

Everyone gassing it up too much or hating too hard though.



EDIT: anyone trying to say he didn't say "Chief Keef" is an idiot, it's clear as hell.
 5 years ago '12        #225
Dee352 170 heat pts170
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that n*gga jigga
 5 years ago '04        #226
ddash 1 heat pts
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Track is dope.

Beat got a real fu*king ill vibe.
 5 years ago '05        #227
goldgrill910 2 heat pts
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that boy still got it. glad we still got a n*gga left that knows how to rap still.

.....catch a body head to houston
 5 years ago '07        #228
young moolah 5 heat pts
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this is dope. and i usually can't stand swizz but i didnt mind him here.
 5 years ago '06        #229
Menelek 5 heat pts
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This sh*t is hard esp the first verse and that stop and go Flow. And stop with that blind hate the beat is dope.
 5 years ago '06        #230
Menelek 5 heat pts
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 goldgrill910 said:
that boy still got it. glad we still got a n*gga left that knows how to rap still.

.....catch a body head to houston
That Nas quote prob got the stans mad
 5 years ago '04        #231
efromthev 2 heat pts
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I'm usually the first to say that I think Jay is overrated but I'm feeling this one.
 5 years ago '04        #232
UF4Soldier 132 heat pts132
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sh*ts live
 5 years ago '04        #233
UF4Soldier 132 heat pts132
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 TheMindOf said:
The actual number is between 68-75 Million sold worldwide for Pac

50 Million worldwide for Hov.. And he aint even have to die for them sales..

Not to mention still putting out successful albums..




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Don't even ask him how!!!
pac accomplished all this at 25 meanwhile jay z first album flopped when he was 26

no comparison jay did it his way pac did it his way
 5 years ago '13        #234
HipHopFactz 454 heat pts454
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 UF4Soldier said:
pac accomplished all this at 25 meanwhile jay z first album flopped when he was 26

no comparison jay did it his way pac did it his way
numbers only matter up a certain point, Eminem outsold everyone, when ur nearing the 100 million mark an extra 10 mill here and there don't matter

end of the day majority rules

and every general public poll consensus since 1996 - 2013 has Pac at the no 1 spot, with Em taking over BIG since 2003, BIG at 3 and Jay at 4

Pac is on another level as far as icon, we talking with the gods, its just not the music, its the image and the man himself, similar to Bob Marley and John Lennon

no 2 is Em

BIG will hold his no 3 spot

Jay will struggle to hold his no4 spot, young rappers, new generation, the Drakes, and the Kdots might take his position and demote him to 5 or 6.

Pac and Em got history locked until 30 years from now someone really comes and turns everything upside down.

Jays main issue is he doesn't gravitate to the people or hit the soul


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 5 years ago '09        #235
Ash10 21 heat pts21
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so no 1 wants talk about Ghostface k!llah new album
 5 years ago '06        #236
Menelek 5 heat pts
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 HipHopFactz said:
numbers only matter up a certain point, Eminem outsold everyone, when ur nearing the 100 million mark an extra 10 mill here and there don't matter

end of the day majority rules

and every general public poll consensus since 1996 - 2013 has Pac at the no 1 spot, with Em taking over BIG since 2003, BIG at 3 and Jay at 4

Pac is on another level as far as icon, we talking with the gods, its just not the music, its the image and the man himself, similar to Bob Marley and John Lennon

no 2 is Em

BIG will hold his no 3 spot

Jay will struggle to hold his no4 spot, young rappers, new generation, the Drakes, and the Kdots might take his position and demote him to 5 or 6.

Pac and Em got history locked until 30 years from now someone really comes and turns everything upside down.

Jays main issue is he doesn't gravitate to the people or hit the soul
Interesting annalyzation
 5 years ago '10        #237
Hovi Bryant 676 heat pts676
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I see I didn't miss a damn thing.
 5 years ago '09        #238
MakaveliToDon91 13 heat pts13
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 Vos said:
The Black Album, American Gangster, Watch The Throne...all the GREAT guest verses since that time...fu*k, his best guest verses EVER came out after 2002 (Diamonds remix, Free Mason, Go Crazy, Shiny Suit Theory). You're clearly either a) hating for the sake of it or b) very stupid or c) both.

and Ether is one of the most overrated diss tracks of all time. Handful of good lines mixed with a ton of immature and juvenile insults. d!cksuckin lips? c*ckafella? Gay-Z? Rockefeller dying for AIDS (which even if it were true it wouldn't matter)...rocking hoes while Jay rocks fellas? Accusing Jay of being a male chauvinist while starting the third verse with 'ya'll deal with emotions like bi*ches'? Accusing Jay of 'selling out' when Nas recorded Oochie Walley and You Owe Me? fu*k off, honestly.
u are known as the worst jay stan in history. u write educated, well punctuated essays daily on this n*gga.

ethers overrated cuz ya idol got laced up. end of conversation, easily. and Rockafella DID die of aids u anti-hood suburban white piece of sh*t, u ever hear of the drug dealer?

you need to fu*k off. jay is the ultimate sell out, retired, came back n started puttin out bullsh*t music wit illuminati signs surrounding his music for promotion and commotion. shut the f*ck up son,

Jay been out his prime since '02. DEAL WIT IT n*ggaS
 5 years ago '04        #239
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the GoAT has spoken


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 04-11-2013, 08:09 PM         #240
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