Did Jay-Z purposely sabotage DMX to elevate himself in the rap game? skills not enough?

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 04-05-2013, 04:58 PM         #1
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Did Jay-Z purposely sabotage DMX to elevate himself in the rap game? skills not enough?
 

 
We know the facts, that Jay shelved DMX projects while he was Def Jam CEO.

My argument is, if he had GOAT status/potential would that have been necessary? it seems your man hov knew he couldn't top X.

If Jay Z hadn't sabotaged the X project, and YOTDA had the marketing it should of had. Theres no doubt in my mind X would of got his 6th #1 image


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128 comments for "Did Jay-Z purposely sabotage DMX to elevate himself in the rap game? skills not enough?"

 04-05-2013, 05:19 PM         #2
kk504  OP
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crack sabotaged x's career.

the end.
 04-05-2013, 05:23 PM         #3
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 kk504 said:
crack sabotaged x's career.

the end.
X was doing crack before he started rapping

#fact
 04-05-2013, 05:23 PM         #4
kk504  OP
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 ballergenetics said:
Earl Simmons* got him hooked...
*correction
 04-05-2013, 05:27 PM         #5
kk504  OP
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 mR ReZiW said:
X was doing crack before he started rapping
actually x did regular coke before he started rappin... and when he was on coke, he was THAT n*gga.

soon as he switched up to crack though, n*gga went from superman to clark kent.
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 Michael 1987 said:
Drugs or not. Jay fu*ked him over.
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This.
 5 years ago '05        #7
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 kk504 said:
crack sabotaged x's career.

the end.
 ballergenetics said:
Jay got him hooked...
 04-05-2013, 05:35 PM         #8
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 kk504 said:
actually x did regular coke before he started rappin... and when he was on coke, he was THAT n*gga.

soon as he switched up to crack though, n*gga went from superman to clark kent.

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heres mine:



lying a.ss
 04-05-2013, 05:52 PM         #9
kk504  OP
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anyways, as far as this is concerned...

 mR ReZiW said:
My argument is, if he had GOAT status/potential would that have been necessary? it seems your man hov knew he couldn't top X.

If Jay Z hadn't sabotaged the X project, and YOTDA had the marketing it should of had. Theres no doubt in my mind X would of got his 6th #1
the real reason x couldn't solidify himself as the GOAT is due to him not putting forth the same effort musically. and whether jay had him blackballed or not is irrelevant. by the time YOTDA came out, he was a shell of his former self musically.

or did you forget that he dropped 2 consecutive bland albums prior to jay becoming president... starting with the great depression, which was nowhere near the level of his first 3 albums, especially on the beats.

then he dropped grand champ (2003), which was slightly better than GD, but again, very bland by x standards. at that point hip hop was also shifting it's attention to the new "it" rapper of the moment, 50 cent. most of x's old fans became 50 fans.

then (with the exception of 1 song on vol 4) we didn't get so much as a guest verse from x for 3 years.

and once YOTDA did drop, it was destined to fail.... because that sh*t was just plain TERRIBLE. wack beats, wack verses... need i say more?


x had destroyed his own career at that point, mainly due to crack. point blank.


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X kept it 100 in that interview. And yeah Jay sh*ted on him.
 04-05-2013, 06:02 PM         #11
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 mR ReZiW said:

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heres mine:



lying a.ss
dmx: "then i realized he put some coke in the blunt"

COKE IN THE BLUNT... aka a WOO

*white announcer directly after* "it wasn't long before smoking crack became an integral part of dmx's life"

yet neither x nor his friends mentioned him smoking crack back then even ONCE in that sh*t.

amazing how that media brainwashing works.

hegelian dialectic.... look it up.


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 04-05-2013, 06:25 PM         #12
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 kk504 said:
dmx: "then i realized he put some coke in the blunt"

COKE IN THE BLUNT... aka a WOO

*white announcer directly after* "it wasn't long before smoking crack became an integral part of dmx's life"

yet neither x nor his friends mentioned him smoking crack back then even ONCE in that sh*t.

amazing how that media brainwashing works.

hegelian dialectic.... look it up.


how did I know you was gonna say this.

whats the difference between cocaine and crack Einstein? heat and baking soda

so if you smoking cocaine/freebasing/woolies essentially what are you doing?



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 04-05-2013, 06:38 PM         #13
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 mR ReZiW said:


how did I know you was gonna say this.

whats the difference between cocaine and crack Einstein? heat and baking soda

so if you smoking cocaine/freebasing/woolies essentially what are you doing?

are you fu*king kidding me???






the fact that crack gives you a faster high while it's effects wear off quicker, requiring the fiend to take multiple hits in order to get the same high they'd normally get from just a line of coke, makes it waaaaay more addicting and raises it's OD probability ten fold.

smoking weed mixed with coke, although dangerous and addicting, is far less dangerous than fu*king smoking crack.

now put that in your glass d!ck and smoke it.
 04-05-2013, 06:41 PM         #14
kk504  OP
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it amazes me how you idiots will even argue the dangers of crack vs cocaine.
 04-05-2013, 06:52 PM         #15
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 kk504 said:
are you fu*king kidding me???






the fact that crack gives you a faster high while it's effects wear off quicker, requiring the fiend to take multiple hits in order to get the same high they'd normally get from just a line of coke, makes it waaaaay more addicting and raises it's OD probability ten fold.

smoking weed mixed with coke, although dangerous and addicting, is far less dangerous than fu*king smoking crack.

now put that in your glass d!ck and smoke it.
aint no one arguing the dangers, please point me where i said one is more dangerous than the other.

fu*k your google search and copy n paste, this is real life sh*t

aint no one telling me they smoked a lace blunt but didnt smoke crack. its the same tingk

obviously its a diff high ffs, but essentially its the same thing no question no debate.

from the time you're bussing google searches you obviously aint sure on what you're talking about. leave it at that


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 mR ReZiW said:


how did I know you was gonna say this.

whats the difference between cocaine and crack Einstein? heat and baking soda

so if you smoking cocaine/freebasing/woolies essentially what are you doing?

Coke is more potent!

It is also much cheaper

But on another note Crack/Coke messed up DMX!

Jay also played a part in his dimise!
 04-05-2013, 06:56 PM         #17
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 mR ReZiW said:
aint no one arguing the dangers, please point me where i said one is more dangerous than the other.

fu*k your google search and copy n paste, this is real life sh*t

aint no one telling me they smoked a lace blunt but didnt smoke crack. its the same tingk

obviously its a diff high ffs, but essentially its the same thing no question no debate.

from the time you're bussing google searches you obviously aint sure on what you're talking about. leave it at that
translation: "you were right kk504"

btw...


 kk504 said:
anyways, as far as this is concerned...



the real reason x couldn't solidify himself as the GOAT is due to him not putting forth the same effort musically. and whether jay had him blackballed or not is irrelevant. by the time YOTDA came out, he was a shell of his former self musically.

or did you forget that he dropped 2 consecutive bland albums prior to jay becoming president... starting with the great depression, which was nowhere near the level of his first 3 albums, especially on the beats.

then he dropped grand champ (2003), which was slightly better than GD, but again, very bland by x standards. at that point hip hop was also shifting it's attention to the new "it" rapper of the moment, 50 cent. most of x's old fans became 50 fans.

then (with the exception of 1 song on vol 4) we didn't get so much as a guest verse from x for 3 years.

and once YOTDA did drop, it was destined to fail.... because that sh*t was just plain TERRIBLE. wack beats, wack verses... need i say more?


x had destroyed his own career at that point, mainly due to crack. point blank.

#fact
 04-05-2013, 07:03 PM         #18
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 JickBangz said:
Coke is more potent!

It is also much cheaper

But on another note Crack/Coke messed up DMX!

Jay also played a part in his dimise!
coke more potent n cheaper than crack? im lost

 kk504 said:
translation: "you were right kk504"
right about what? lol... when i said whats the difference I ment as in how it is made, get that through your brain.

smoking cocaine is smoking crack.... because CRACK IS COCAINE

how retarded can you be
 04-05-2013, 07:07 PM         #19
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why the fu*k do you think they call it crack COCAINE



i have no idea what possessed you to do a google search thinking i was saying the highs are the same.
 04-05-2013, 07:10 PM         #20
kk504  OP
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funny...

 kk504 said:
anyways, as far as this is concerned...



the real reason x couldn't solidify himself as the GOAT is due to him not putting forth the same effort musically. and whether jay had him blackballed or not is irrelevant. by the time YOTDA came out, he was a shell of his former self musically.

or did you forget that he dropped 2 consecutive bland albums prior to jay becoming president... starting with the great depression, which was nowhere near the level of his first 3 albums, especially on the beats.

then he dropped grand champ (2003), which was slightly better than GD, but again, very bland by x standards. at that point hip hop was also shifting it's attention to the new "it" rapper of the moment, 50 cent. most of x's old fans became 50 fans.

then (with the exception of 1 song on vol 4) we didn't get so much as a guest verse from x for 3 years.

and once YOTDA did drop, it was destined to fail.... because that sh*t was just plain TERRIBLE. wack beats, wack verses... need i say more?


x had destroyed his own career at that point, mainly due to crack. point blank.

you're ducking the sh*t out this though. cause you know i'm right.

YOTDA woulda been a game changer... said no one, EVER.
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