For the first time in history, the NBA will have zero 20-10 players

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 5 years ago '04        #41
jplaydadon 9 heat pts
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its a different game and some of the players who can/could do it are either hurt or in situations where they dont need to avg 20 and 10, like blake and bosh. and if anyone seriously thinks that talent is down in the nba they have to be a full blooded retard. the talent has NEVER been better and is steadily improving and getting younger. not to mention the whole friggin world is playing the sport now. i think its pretty incredible the US is still on top (i digress). but this isnt really some earth shattering revelation. next year we will probably see a return of the 20/10 stat by multiple peeps
 5 years ago '08        #42
Andre3stacks 20 heat pts20
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^^^ Guards and swingmen are arguably better than ever but youd be a fool to not admit the big men today are horrible in comparison to the past. What big men today are touching the 90s talent??
 5 years ago '04        #43
jplaydadon 9 heat pts
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 Andre3stacks said:
^^^ Guards and swingmen are arguably better than ever but youd be a fool to not admit the big men today are horrible in comparison to the past. What big men today are touching the 90s talent??
the value of the average nba player is not determined by how good the bigs are. and quite frankly, the increase in teh avg size of guards and swingmen make it more difficult for big men today to have the same impact of 90s and earlier bigs. i agree that the talent there is not what it was, but its not abysmal as some are making it seem. did any of those guys have to go out to the perimeter and guard a player like dirk, kevin durant, etc who had thier size but more range and perimeter skill? not really. the nba is different, not worse, and the avg player today is better than that of any era before ours
 5 years ago '05        #44
micseles 3 heat pts
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 Rob De Niro said:
The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years


I see where your coming from but did Al jefferson, Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol die or something?!?!?
 5 years ago '12        #45
dman 4901 38 heat pts38
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 Da Truth23 said:
If you are going to say it like that you might as well say NBA 2k13 is realistic since that's how the NBA is now..
nba 2k13 be on that bullsh*t tho so i cant say its realistic

but i stand by what i said
 5 years ago '08        #46
Illuminati 192 heat pts192
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 dman 4901 said:
nba 2k13 be on that bullsh*t tho so i cant say its realistic

but i stand by what i said
NBA 2K13 - Teams abuse the PIP feature. Outside of the Nuggets who does that irl? 2k13 is also a TERRIBLE game.
 5 years ago '12        #47
dman 4901 38 heat pts38
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 Illuminati said:
NBA 2K13 - Teams abuse the PIP feature. Outside of the Nuggets who does that irl? 2k13 is also a TERRIBLE game.
2k13 is also a TERRIBLE game
i agree 1000 percent

ive played every 2k since dreamcast too
 03-31-2013, 08:57 PM         #48
SOCIALITE 
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and my team refuses to keep up with the times
 5 years ago '07        #49
Rob De Niro 120 heat pts120
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Okay I retract my statement but the pre 2000s era of centers are one of a kind
 5 years ago '04        #50
Rashad69 11 heat pts11
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 Kastanova said:
Dwight could have easily averaged that on the Lakers....

but someone doesn't like to share their shots with him

miss me with his total a.ssists bullsh*t also
 03-31-2013, 09:29 PM         #51
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supposed to be u bosh
 5 years ago '04        #52
J.BEEZY 10 heat pts10
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 RAZAH CUTS said:
The 1990's is so gone mang....

The NBA is in shambles....
maybe cuz im older but i agree, the league aint what it used to be
 5 years ago '04        #53
yaleRULES 11 heat pts11
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LMAO at people who said andy varajeo was gonna do it. dude can barely scrape 12 pts per game
 5 years ago '04        #54
CTre 22 heat pts22
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 LAwLB15 said:
supposed to be u bosh
not with Lebron stealing his rebounds
 5 years ago '05        #55
KingJustin 4 heat pts
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if Andre Dummond started he would be a 20-10 guy and ROY greg monroe also will be a 20-10 guy within a year or two
 5 years ago '05        #56
KingJustin 4 heat pts
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 Andre3stacks said:
^^^ Guards and swingmen are arguably better than ever but youd be a fool to not admit the big men today are horrible in comparison to the past. What big men today are touching the 90s talent??
Andre Drummond
 5 years ago '12        #57
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 Illuminati said:
Thank advanced stats for that and the rise in better disguised zones to prevent against the post pass.

The decline of the NBA big man has never been more glaring. The best centers right now are Howard, Marc Gasol, Joakim Noah, Brook Lopez, Tyson Chandler and DeMarcus Cousins. (Iím not counting Andrew Bynum, who hasnít played this season, or Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, who are past their primes and have always been hybrid bigs.)


Gasol
Howard
Noah
Cousins
Chandler

The position isn't as watered down as most analysts would have you believe with the likes of Drummond, and more specifically Jonas on the rise. I don't agree with the point about TD or KG either considering their longevity and production.

Talent does have something to do with it but so do defenses and offensive gameplans. There were about 108 40 pt games in 05-06 and that number has almost shrunk by about 5 times with that number hovering somewhere in the late teens or early 20's...

Numbers are down across the board, and logically so too are the # of 20-10 players given the shifts in coaching.



YO BRO THE BEST ALL AROUND POWER FORWARD IN THE LEAGUE IS LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE!!! Don't sleep on LA or them trailblazers..
 5 years ago '08        #58
RokkyRok 50 heat pts50
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 Tempus # 1 said:
but like i said before. 2 point shots should count for 3 points and 3 point shots should count for 2
They should test run that in the d league, move the line to the NCAA women's 3.
It'd be interesting to watch.
 5 years ago '10        #59
Hovi Bryant 676 heat pts676
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 CTre said:
not with Lebron stealing his rebounds
Bosh sits at the perimeter. He's not going to get boards playing like that.
 5 years ago '11        #60
Backflipz 84 heat pts84
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Y'all n*ggas cry too much
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