For the first time in history, the NBA will have zero 20-10 players

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For the first time in history, the NBA will have zero 20-10 players
 

 

More proof that the dominant NBA big man is as endangered as liberal Republicans: For the first time in league history, no player is going to average at least 20 points and 10 rebounds per game.

Only 11 players are averaging 10 or more rebounds, and the highest scorer in that group is Golden Stateís David Lee with 18.6 points per game. That means he would have to average 31 points over his last nine games to reach the 20-point plateau for the season. Unless he suddenly turns into Wilt Chamberlain, it ainít gonna happen.

Ten players are averaging at least 20 points a game, and the leading rebounder on that list is Portlandís LaMarcus Aldridge with 8.9 per game. To reach the 10-rebound mark for the season, he would have to average 17.1 boards over his final 11 games. No chance.

So what about Dwight Howard, Kevin Love and Blake Griffin, who all posted 20-10 numbers last season?

Howard, who is averaging 16.5 points and 12.6 rebounds, is coming off back surgery and has had problems adjusting to Tinseltown following his offseason trade from the Magic to the Lakers. Love (18.3 and 14.0) hasnít played since re-breaking his shooting hand on Jan. 3, while Griffinís stats have declined to 18.4 and 8.5, partly because the improved Clippers feature a more balanced offense.

The decline of the NBA big man has never been more glaring. The best centers right now are Howard, Marc Gasol, Joakim Noah, Brook Lopez, Tyson Chandler and DeMarcus Cousins. (Iím not counting Andrew Bynum, who hasnít played this season, or Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, who are past their primes and have always been hybrid bigs.)

Does anyone on that list remotely resemble Chamberlain, Shaquille OíNeal, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Bob Lanier, David Robinson, Walt Bellamy or George Mikan, centers who averaged more than 20 points and 10 rebounds for their entire careers? (They also are among 17 NBA players with 20-10 stats over at least a five-year career, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.)

Sure, rebounds were more plentiful in the 1960s and 1970s, when shooting percentages were lower, and points came easier during the fast-break Showtime Era of the 1980s. Still, there has been at least one 20-10 player every season since the NBA started keeping rebounding stats in 1950-51 Ė four years before the advent of the shot clock.

As recently as 2010-11, four players ó Howard, Love, Griffin and Zach Randolph ó were in the 20-10 club.

In fact, over the past 10 years, there never has been a season in which fewer than two players averaged 20 points and 10 boards. And that only includes those who played at least 70 games, the minimum required to qualify as a league leader. If you include others who fell just short of the minimum, there have been at least three 20-10 players every season since 2002-03.

At one time, 20-10 seasons were as common as Chris Andersenís rainbow tattoos.

Eight players averaged 20-10 for 10 straight seasons or more: Chamberlain, OíNeal, Olajuwon, Abdul-Jabbar, Malone, Duncan, Charles Barkley and Bob Pettit.

Pettit posted a 20-10 every season of his career, while Chamberlain had 12 consecutive years of at least 20 points and Ė this is not a typo Ė 20 rebounds.

So why has the monster center all but disappeared?

Little or no college experience: Big men come into the NBA without the skills needed to play in the post. Nobody has Kareemís Sky Hook or Hakeemís Dream Shake. Nobody blocks shots like Russell or bullies defenders like Shaq.
The Air Jordan Effect: After Michael Jordan took over the league, everyone wanted to play like Mike, even the big guys. Doing the dirty work down low wasnít as exciting as soaring through the air or making acrobatic shots.
The 3-pointer: When the NBA adopted the 3-point line in 1979, it placed more emphasis on outside shooting than inside muscle. And 3-point misses usually produce long rebounds that fly over the heads of the big men boxing out down low.
European influence: The influx of players from Europe, where finesse trumps force, made bruising centers less important. Seven-foot imports such as Dirk Nowitzki played more like guards than centers.
Injuries: Yao Ming, Greg Oden, Andrew Bogut, Love and Bynum are talented big men whose careers have been cut short or hampered by injuries in recent years.
Whatever the reasons, there is nobody on the horizon who is a lock to put up 20-10 seasons on a regular basis. Years from now, we may look back on the 20-10 mark the way we now view set shots and tight shorts Ė vestiges of a bygone era.

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 5 years ago '11        #2
PotheadFocker 169 heat pts169
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game's changing
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i was watching okc vs bucks man those fools were out there chucking 3 an it was no post play what so ever


sh*t is not a good look for the future
 5 years ago '12        #5
AceBoogie 45 heat pts45
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its either 3 pointers or a dunk/layup
maan the 3 point line is a gimmick just get buckets
 5 years ago '12        #6
dman 4901 38 heat pts38
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 AceBoogie said:
its either 3 pointers or a dunk/layup
maan the 3 point line is a gimmick just get buckets
word they dont even feed the post anymore

nba plays like a real life version of nba 2k13

the sh*t is disturbing as fu*k
 5 years ago '06        #7
Clyde 1193 heat pts1193
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thought David Lee was for some reason. Oh well...
 5 years ago '07        #8
jack_napier 
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If Kevin Love was healthy...
 5 years ago '07        #9
Rob De Niro 120 heat pts120
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The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years
 5 years ago '11        #10
Joseph 13 heat pts13
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Dwight would probably average it this season if he wasn't playing with Kobe tho
 5 years ago '04        #11
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 Rob De Niro said:
The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years
bynum has a decent post game
 5 years ago '07        #12
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talent is down overall.
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 Rob De Niro said:
The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years
i think you're slightly underestimating. like someone said, bynum gets the job done. so does al jefferson. brook can be decent as well
 03-31-2013, 06:26 PM         #14
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elvisfreshly 106 heat pts106
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Sully and Dre next year
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RAZAH CUTS 5835 heat pts5835
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The 1990's is so gone mang....

The NBA is in shambles....
 03-31-2013, 06:27 PM         #17
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 Rob De Niro said:
The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years

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 Rob De Niro said:
The last player we will see with an actual post up game is tim duncan and he will retire in 2-3 years
LA got them moves
 5 years ago '08        #19
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 AceBoogie said:
its either 3 pointers or a dunk/layup
maan the 3 point line is a gimmick just get buckets
Thank advanced stats for that and the rise in better disguised zones to prevent against the post pass.

The decline of the NBA big man has never been more glaring. The best centers right now are Howard, Marc Gasol, Joakim Noah, Brook Lopez, Tyson Chandler and DeMarcus Cousins. (Iím not counting Andrew Bynum, who hasnít played this season, or Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, who are past their primes and have always been hybrid bigs.)


Gasol
Howard
Noah
Cousins
Chandler

The position isn't as watered down as most analysts would have you believe with the likes of Drummond, and more specifically Jonas on the rise. I don't agree with the point about TD or KG either considering their longevity and production.

Talent does have something to do with it but so do defenses and offensive gameplans. There were about 108 40 pt games in 05-06 and that number has almost shrunk by about 5 times with that number hovering somewhere in the late teens or early 20's...

Numbers are down across the board, and logically so too are the # of 20-10 players given the shifts in coaching.
 03-31-2013, 06:31 PM         #20
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but like i said before. 2 point shots should count for 3 points and 3 point shots should count for 2
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