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 5 years ago '07        #21
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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 st21 said:
Caron Butler developed pretty nicely here
Wiz didnt draft him, otherwise answers like Gilbert and such might be acceptable. My b bout the wording of the question

Look through the entire wizards draft since 2003 when Eg took over and tell me all bout this player development that seems to happen here. Literally not a single one has gone on to do anything for this team. Wall was never supposed to be a go-to scorer in the nba yet people now just calling him out on it

5-28 without Wall. Thats historically bad. This franchise will be sh*t long as these two are running it and the players catching blame is nothing new. You think Wall told Ernie to roll out the red carpet and hype him as the savior of dc basketball?


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 5 years ago '06        #22
O Nasty 96 heat pts96
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maybe yall just suck at drafting

how's jan vessley working out. really though , that quote is horrible. worst part is...i watched the game before last nights vs the raptors. he was constantly throwing bad passes that his teammates were still converting to a.ssists
 5 years ago '07        #23
st21 1368 heat pts1368
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 ttime236 said:
Wiz didnt draft him, otherwise answers like Gilbert and such might be acceptable. My b bout the wording of the question

Look through the entire wizards draft since 2003 when Eg took over and tell me all bout this player development that seems to happen here. Literally not a single one has gone on to do anything for this team. Wall was never supposed to be a go-to scorer in the nba yet people now just calling him out on it

5-28 without Wall. Thats historically bad. This franchise will be sh*t long as these two are running it and the players catching blame is nothing new. You think Wall told Ernie to roll out the red carpet and hype him as the savior of dc basketball?:melomonson:
his scoring isn't even the biggest issue. it's the beeline drives into traffic, getting up in the air w/ nowhere to go, picking up his dribble in the half court. stuff like that is elementary. he's a steet ball player with no feel for the NBA game. and you can't dispute his work ethic leaves a lot to be desired. all the summer league games, the weight he put on while he was injured. that's got nothing to do with ernie that's strictly personal motivation.

wall gets sonned by high schoolers who are more fundamentally sound than him


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As far as Beal i've already seen mroe development out of him than i've seen from wall's entire first 3 seasons


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 5 years ago '07        #24
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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Haha the same Beal that just catches and shoots and sulks in the corner if he doesnt have the ball. Like I said, soon people will criticize him too. Its the way of the wizards. Season starts off, they lose bigtime and take themselves outta the playoff race so early, then you get left with 3 or 4 months to nitpick every night. Whole team sucks, fu*k em. Im riding with okc, those boys know how to develop a team
 5 years ago '08        #25
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 luker1920 said:
Richard Hamilton?
The saddest thing is he maybe the only one past 20 years

 st21 said:
Caron Butler developed pretty nicely here
He was pretty much a finished product before he got here so no

 Tha Problum said:
21 year old gilbert?
He freaking imploded and set this franchise back. We didn't draft him as well
 5 years ago '07        #26
st21 1368 heat pts1368
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ok T. suit yourself. i'm sticking with the boys. fu*k a OKC. Durant didn't even go to MD or Georgetown so fu*k him
 5 years ago '08        #27
AnyGiven 39 heat pts39
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Wall is having a bad stretch right now. No arguing that
 5 years ago '09        #28
A2P89 2 heat pts
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Can't develop sh*t until grunfeld out, bottom line
 5 years ago '05        #29
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 Gremlin said:
Whats deep is Jose wasn't even finished dishing out asts even after the buzzer
He was trying to a.ssist John Wall in keeping his head up and then even after all that John drops that quote...

another turnover...
 5 years ago '05        #30
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 st21 said:
his scoring isn't even the biggest issue. it's the beeline drives into traffic, getting up in the air w/ nowhere to go, picking up his dribble in the half court. stuff like that is elementary. he's a steet ball player with no feel for the NBA game. and you can't dispute his work ethic leaves a lot to be desired. all the summer league games, the weight he put on while he was injured. that's got nothing to do with ernie that's strictly personal motivation.

wall gets sonned by high schoolers who are more fundamentally sound than him






As far as Beal i've already seen mroe development out of him than i've seen from wall's entire first 3 seasons
his jumpshot it's so poor
 5 years ago '09        #31
A2P89 2 heat pts
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Grunfeld salted the ground, nothing will ever grow. Leonsis needs to realize. bigger issues present and n*ggas are f!ghting for an 8th seed


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 5 years ago '08        #32
JCyclops 13 heat pts13
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It goes deeper than Leonsis/Grunfeld too. This franchise traded a young Chris Webber for an aging Mitch Richmond and paid Juwan Howard 100 mil. Even Juwan's agent knew that was crazy. The Pistons won a chip with Rip, Ben Wallace and Sheed, all dudes the Wizards traded for nothing.

Snyder finally got rid of his minion Vinny Cerrato and hired Bruce Allen/Shanny and took a step back. They drafted the culture changer in RG3 and have drafted solid players that they have developed.

The Wizards draft talented players, but don't ever develop them. They also draft scrubs like Vesely and Jarvis Hayes far too high. Nothing will change without changing the GM AND lucking up on a culture changing type player. The medical staff isn't exactly on the Pheonix Suns' staff level either.
 02-28-2013, 02:37 PM         #33
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look at the d!ckriden flip flop n a.ss wiz fans in here


walls a bust

beal is a franchise player

and now they even bandwagon jumping to other teams






i knew half you n*ggas was Cavs fans all along
 5 years ago '12        #34
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That n*gga will be fine, hes jus slumpin right now. Teams are adjustin to what he does best, he jus has to figure out how to make his own adjustments and ofcourse get a consitent fu*kin jumper.... Slim gotta rededicate himself to gettin better and stay out the fu*kin clubs, hes on his Andray blatche sh*t
 5 years ago '07        #35
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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Lmao, all the realgm boards are coming up with trades regarding Wall



Like really, blow up the rebuild you created in the last 3 years just to have the same regime build a new one with lotto picks in a draft considered 'weak'. I mean really??

Once again, EG cleaning up his own mess and the masses are too blind to see it
 5 years ago '08        #36
AnyGiven 39 heat pts39
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 bigree61 said:
look at the d!ckriden flip flop n a.ss wiz fans in here


walls a bust

beal is a franchise player

and now they even bandwagon jumping to other teams






i knew half you n*ggas was Cavs fans all along
its just those two. Leave the rest of us out
 5 years ago '12        #37
eCity 420 21 heat pts21
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yall was callin him point GOD
thats just disrespectful
 5 years ago '04        #38
D1nOnlyMrM@ 43 heat pts43
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really a few bad games happens to all. we all slump. he did come off that injury hoopin better than most coming off injury i trust john will do better. besides in what bizzaro world does aj price now pass the ball?
 5 years ago '10        #39
stizz44 23 heat pts23
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 JCyclops said:
It goes deeper than Leonsis/Grunfeld too. This franchise traded a young Chris Webber for an aging Mitch Richmond and paid Juwan Howard 100 mil. Even Juwan's agent knew that was crazy. The Pistons won a chip with Rip, Ben Wallace and Sheed, all dudes the Wizards traded for nothing.

Snyder finally got rid of his minion Vinny Cerrato and hired Bruce Allen/Shanny and took a step back. They drafted the culture changer in RG3 and have drafted solid players that they have developed.

The Wizards draft talented players, but don't ever develop them. They also draft scrubs like Vesely and Jarvis Hayes far too high. Nothing will change without changing the GM AND lucking up on a culture changing type player. The medical staff isn't exactly on the Pheonix Suns' staff level either.


and furthermore, they drafted Kwanme Brown with the #1 pick!!!!

 5 years ago '09        #40
A2P89 2 heat pts
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now wall is the reason they losing. n*ggas weren't saying that when the squad was 5-28 and screaming for walls return. Put price back in as the starter and see how many wins come out. had nene played this wouldn't even be an issue. 3 years in and this man still hasn't had a consistent lineup from year to year, not even backcourt mate carry over from one year to the next. The organization is a fu*king swinging door, how are they supposed to progress a young core with a FO with that type of mentality


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