AlexKennedyNBA: The Magic and Knicks have discussed a J.J. Redick for Iman Shumpert trade.

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 02-19-2013, 01:12 AM         #61
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 eliwood said:
I don't think y'all realize that JJ Redd!ck is a good player

Nearly averaging 15 on a team where he and Afflalo are the only legitimate offensive threats. Add in the fact that he's a playmaker and has shown the ability to facilitate on a bad team only means he will be able to play a lot better on a team with more talent.

Capable of creating for himself and others in the half court if Melo is off.

Offensive rating of 114 and TS% over 60.

Would be a great pick up
But what happens when he isn't the second choice offensively? His averages are a lot closer to Novak than people realize but Red!ck averages 10 more minutes and is second to Affalo in pecking order.

Look at the numbers closely, is Red!ck that great of an option for the Knicks? He would be fourth or fifth choice of getting the ball because there are better options available.


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 5 years ago '05        #62
BronxBombers 195 heat pts195
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 eliwood said:
Only read the first two pages

Honestly I think the Knicks need to take the risk. It's a move that can push them over the top imo
To Big Of a Risk For a Str8 Up Trade ...Gotta Involve More Pieces Or Picks ...

Since Hes Gunna Be FA

 Dangerously said:
But what happens when he isn't the second choice offensively? His averages are a lot closer to Novak than people realize but Red!ck averages 10 more minutes and is second to Affalo in pecking order.

Look at the numbers closely, is Red!ck that great of an option for the Knicks?
 Dangerously said:
Also, Redd!ck is setting you up for Lin part 2 where he over performs and you either pay him big money or let him use you to get a better deal.

Man You Back Tracking Your Logic.....Get Your SF Time Zone F*ggot a.ss Outta Here
 5 years ago '11        #63
eliwood 144 heat pts144
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 Dangerously said:
But what happens when he isn't the second choice offensively? His averages are a lot closer to Novak than people realize but Red!ck averages 10 more minutes and is second to Affalo in pecking order.

Look at the numbers closely, is Red!ck that great of an option for the Knicks?
The difference is Red!ck initiates his offense for himself, which is substantially more difficult than Novaks role which is literally standing in the corner and waiting. Playing JJ on ball with let you play Melo off ball or you can even have Red!ck play with the 2nd unit. Even if you have a Redd!ck in a lax role, he's a capable off ball player. I don't think he's one of the few players that shoot better off the dribble so his efficiency would increase.



There is absolutely no question in my mind that Red!ck is an infinitely better option than Novak -- he can't do sh*t outside of catch and shoot 3's while Red!ck has an extremely well rounded game for a combo guard

 Bronxbombers said:
To Big Of a Risk For a Str8 Up Trade ...Gotta Involve More Pieces Or Picks ...

Since Hes Gunna Be FA






Man You Back Tracking Your Logic.....Get Your SF Time Zone F*ggot a.ss Outta Here

can't have you talking down on my time zone like that
 02-19-2013, 01:21 AM         #64
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This dumbass talks sh*t about SF then gets hurt when the Niner Gang doesn't let him chill
 5 years ago '10        #65
Blkboipurp 
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Shump is gonna get traded.I'm not sure for who but I have a feeling he ain't gonna be here much longer
 5 years ago '05        #66
BronxBombers 195 heat pts195
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 Dangerously said:
This dumbass talks sh*t about SF then gets hurt when the Niner Gang doesn't let him chill

At The End Of The Day They Knw Who Created And Is The Leader Of NinerGang
 5 years ago '10        #67
Agentzer0oo0 215 heat pts215
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 Blkboipurp said:
Shump is gonna get traded.I'm not sure for who but I have a feeling he ain't gonna be here much longer
I'm getting that SAME exact feeling homie..
 5 years ago '05        #68
FalconBuddha 16 heat pts16
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WHy the hell would we make this trade? not sure why knick fans think this guy is anything special, but JJs a much better player and this would be a horrible trade for us unless the ultimate goal is to suck next year too and try to get Wiggins
 5 years ago '07        #69
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
The more I think of it:

Red!ck
-Better IQ
-Better shot
-Better court vision
-Knock down shooter
-Plays defense

Shump
-Plays great defense
-Excellent athleticism but is recovering from a ACL

Do we really NEED shump when our goal is win-now?





I know you're a College Ball head so who in this year's draft you think could help with a lotto/mid 20 pick?
we could get a good young back up pg like trey burke,there will be alot of interesting players in that 15-23 range.burke from um,oladipo from indiana,archie goodwin from uk,best case scenario would be havin somebody like cj mccollum slip because of his injury.this draft isnt deep at tha top,but u can get a rotation guy in that 15-23 range this year
 5 years ago '06        #70
Supreme7 2 heat pts
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get it done otis.. wait we fired him after dwight left get it done! that would be a great start for us..
 5 years ago '05        #71
MP 52 heat pts52
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cant wait until the deadline comes im tired of all these rumors
 5 years ago '05        #72
ChickzNKickz 100 heat pts100
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 Dangerously said:
Trade deadline got n*ggas buggin.
You couldn't post in a Knicks thread in October/November without seeing a Novak Double Check gif.

Now you can't find a n*gga willing to stick up for him.

Y'all should leave all of this handwringing for after you get bounced in the Playoffs. Until then just be satisfied you blasted the top team in the league twice.
knicks fans are fickle as fuk..

First they luv u, then they hate you, then they luv u again..
 5 years ago '04        #73
LordBlanco|M 51 heat pts51
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Im not with this trade rumor sh*t.... Whatever happens, happens. Dudes need to stop slacking, started off hot, now dudes are sluggish.
 5 years ago '07        #74
I Am The Truth 1 heat pts
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 ChickzNKickz said:
knicks fans are fickle as fuk..

First they luv u, then they hate you, then they luv u again..
this.

not necessarily a fan of this deal.... maybe JJ + mid 1st rounder + harkless / nicholson for novak & shump?

i'd rather we keep this team and get our mental right though
 5 years ago '07        #75
Sincere730 12 heat pts12
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 5 years ago '07        #76
JamcnPrettyboy 98 heat pts98
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I seriously hope we don't trade him. Most hard working humble dude on our team.

I never cried when dwight left. I probably will when jj does
 5 years ago '06        #77
Supreme7 2 heat pts
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 I Am The Truth said:
this.

not necessarily a fan of this deal.... maybe JJ + mid 1st rounder + harkless / nicholson for novak & shump?
why would give up all that for bum a.ss novak.. iman aint even worth all that..
 5 years ago '11        #78
King Henry 548 heat pts548
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I'm conflicted

Red!ck
 5 years ago '05        #79
P-Hill|M 26 heat pts26
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can't wait until Feb 22nd.
 5 years ago '07        #80
INFAMOUS 13 heat pts13
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 Bronxbombers said:
^^^Take Your L And Go To Bed F*ggot



If Thats The Game In Sac ...Dont Watch It...It'll Make You Have The Throughout The Game

Only Reason Y Hes Been a Jump Shooter As a Knick....Cause iN China Thats What He Was Doing...

Then When He Signed Dantoni Made Him Continue To Chuck...

And Now Woody Incorporate That Same Dantoni Offense To An Extent ...

Making Him Not Going Back To His Old Ways ...

But Now Since No One Can Create On The Perimeter Except Felt Or Kidd..

Hes Been Taking His Game Back To The Mid Range And Paint ..Which I Love
fu*k outta here man that n*gga never takes it to the rack

ol 5 second dribble in circles hit n*ggas with that same step back jumper that never goes in a.ss n*gga

JJ red!ck >>>>>> JR


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