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 5 years ago '12        #61
Julian 5 heat pts
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 Arson said:

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James is about to be a 4x MVP and potential a 2x Finals MVP this year. The chart shows Lebron is crushing Kobe. These are facts, no bias You have to put Lebron over Kobe or else its you that is in fact being bias


Now show me the amount of rings he won on his own team
 5 years ago '09        #62
The Bully 350 heat pts350
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 Julian said:


Now show me the amount of rings he won on his own team
1 less than Kobe
 5 years ago '08        #63
Eagles All Day 87 heat pts87
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 The Bully said:
1 less than Kobe
 5 years ago '09        #64
MakaveliToDon91 11 heat pts11
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 slimdogg3325 said:
noooo..even tho what lebron said makes sense its still a very immature argument..the same sh*t some of these n*ggas on bx spit out..mj didnt say lebron wasnt better, he only said kobe has already done what lebron is trying to do..bron took it the wrong way which is understandable because i still think hes a lil bi*chgreat fu*kin player..weak a.ss character
how the f*ck u have weak character when u dealt wit all that bullsh*t he dealt in that off season after losin to the Mavs? n*gga i woulda exploded, u prolly woulda curled up into a lil ball n cried
 5 years ago '04        #65
VictoryThagr8 6 heat pts
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 slimdogg3325 said:
noooo..even tho what lebron said makes sense its still a very immature argument..the same sh*t some of these n*ggas on bx spit out..mj didnt say lebron wasnt better, he only said kobe has already done what lebron is trying to do..bron took it the wrong way which is understandable because i still think hes a lil bi*chgreat fu*kin player..weak a.ss character
Lebron basically said if we count rings then I give you bill Russell's. It is people ignore his other comment about getting rings is more about team. Lebron saw how sh*tty cave GM are and took his destiny to his own hands and went to the heats with wade and bosh.
 5 years ago '08        #66
The N 466 heat pts466
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Jordan Coming back

Remember he said at the HOF speech dont be shocked if you see him again at 50
 5 years ago '08        #67
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 Julian said:


Now show me the amount of rings he won on his own team

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 02-16-2013, 02:07 PM         #68
WezLBoy Wonder 
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Kareem > mj
 5 years ago '11        #69
1andonlyKingP 105 heat pts105
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Lebron is correct.

The "Player A had a better career than Player B because he had more titles" is an extremely flawed way of comparing players' careers, especially when Horry's titles throw a wrench in that logic and they have to then qualify their statement with "but I was talking about star players, you gotta be the best on your team when you win those titles"

People wanna have it both ways. And you can't.

You can't knock great players like Barkley, Malone, Ewing, etc. for not having rings, and then not want to give Horry credit when he has 7 rings and was a key factor in almost all of the title wins.

Either you live by your argument that rings/titles determine whether a player was great, or you die by that. You can't have it both ways.
 5 years ago '09        #70
DatBrownDood 109 heat pts109
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first page. fu*k lbj
 5 years ago '10        #71
trill jackson 737 heat pts737
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so by mjs math, kobe becomes better than him if he wins 2 more
 02-16-2013, 02:35 PM         #72
Tha Problum 
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 trill jackson said:
so by mjs math, kobe becomes better than him if he wins 2 more
 5 years ago '12        #73
Cloud 420 85 heat pts85
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 5 years ago '10        #74
trill jackson 737 heat pts737
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juwan howard just won a championship, he's better than karl malone now!
 5 years ago '11        #75
Da Truth23 91 heat pts91 OP
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no hot topic? da fuq ronnie

EDIT: Hot Topic bi*ches


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 5 years ago '07        #76
cankstoochie 48 heat pts48
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sh*t. just. got. real
 02-16-2013, 07:06 PM         #77
DaKing08 
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bout time Lebron spoke up
 02-16-2013, 07:12 PM         #78
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Yall looking at one aspect of MJ's stance which is the rings not including all the other points he brought up.

And yes rings defines the greatness of a NBA players career. Why you think Lebron took his talents to South Beach?? He went down there simply for the scenic views and women?? fu*k no he wanted a ring.

Nobodies knocking Malone,Ewing,Barkley some of the greatest NBA players of all-time. But everyone plays the game to get a ring. The ring makes you that much greater. A great player makes a great team.

And I don't give a damn what no one says Lebron joined a team that was already well established w/ Wade and added the extra strength of Bosh. They didn't build that from the ground up so it wasn't that big of a feat like Jordan sticking w/ the Bulls and building that dynasty from the ground up.

He help mold Pippen into one of the best players of all-time. Lebron didn't help mold Wade or Bosh into these great players. They were already established.

You know damn well MJ wasn't just speaking on rings alone that's why you can't put no damn Horry out there. STOP THAT sh*t

Yall choose to bring up only the ring argument to ignore the fact that MJ brought up other factors that guess what Lebron can't compete with.

As far as Bill Russell. Lebron feelings were hurt so he was picking bullsh*t up out the sky. Bill Russel one of the greatest to ever play the game and changed the game but c'mon man. Bill was playing in a time when the NBA was dominated mostly by skrawny a.ss white men. It's a reason the league is dominated by mostly black men now. The level of basketball they played during Jordan era and today's era is much MUCH MUCH more higher then Bill's day.

Lebron will be one of the greatest players of all-time when it's all said and done but c'mon

He couldn't even fu*k w/ D.Rose 1 on 1 let alone MJ. YEAH I SAID IT
I agreed with a lot of your points in this, but I also agree with LBJ's point because when you look at it based on the simple form of what MJ said, if you're gonna take a player based on rings, then he could say Bill russell for all the same reason. Also last time i checked when they put lebron on D rose the bulls lost. D Rose froze up each time lebron had the a.ssignment of sticking him which wasn't until late in games, and if I recall correctly D rose resorted to jump shots when LBJ got on him, missed a few and air balled the most crucial one..Not a real huge LBJ fan I just give respect where respect is due and fact is fact..go watch replays of the miami heat vs bulls games before you try to come back with any points.
 5 years ago '13        #79
Guvnor 1122 heat pts1122
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 J said:
Ether'd Jordan's entire logic in one sentence.
Exactly.
 5 years ago '11        #80
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