T-Pain: Future Doesn't Understand Autotune Technology

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 5 years ago '11        #61
keejee 131 heat pts131
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T-Pain, a Sunshine State icon.

He was the hookman for so many classic club bangers down here in Florida

He actually crafted some major billboard charted singles

He fell off when he started that whole minstrel show persona

He had a great run


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 5 years ago '10        #62
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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future is beyond horrible
 5 years ago '07        #63
MiseryCityTexas 19 heat pts19
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yet future is a much better artist than t-pain. future's debut is better than most of t=pain's albums, and i'm not hating either. i actually sat down and listened to t-pain's music thoroughly out of sheer boredom one day.
 5 years ago '09        #64
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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Both these n*ggas trash but there's a market for them so keep getting your money however they let you get it.
 5 years ago '06        #65
Stupid Fresh 183 heat pts183
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 123456 said:
It's not the engineers that do what T-Pain's talking about...

With Future's vocals, he's obviously just throwing autotune on his vocals and he's singing all over the place. That causes unnecessary jumps randomly and makes sh*t sound terrible. T-Pain and a FEW other artists know how to control it...he can sing perfectly on key and then make his vocal jump at certain points. People that can't sing just can't do that. For example, check out this mixing video that was done on Jeremih's vocals on "Down on me" at 29:35:

I auto tune a lot of vocals so I know how it works. I actually stepped away from auto tune and started using something else because autotune itself is extremely overrated. Doesn't always do a great job when you actually want vocals to sound natural.
i get what you're saying

but my point was maybe he doesn't want to use autotune to sound perfect oddly enough

i get people saying its futures job to sing a certain way.. but what im saying is an egineer has more than likely told him the same sh*t and im sure Future doesn't give a fu*k
 5 years ago '10        #66
5K Studios 4 heat pts
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n*gga mad af.
 5 years ago '04        #67
Ra-da-god 23 heat pts23
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 Skammy Gee said:
T-Pain knows how to play with autotune... he sings a bit flat and the correction algorithm does the magic.... Future sounds like he just sing his sh*t and they apply the effect randomly afterwards, disregarding the key of the song...

If you listen to Good Kush and Alchohol... U can tell they used melodyne instead of autotune on his voice.... and he sounds wayyyyy better
exactly great voice or not you still have to sing the RIGHT key for it to sound good...the cat that said he's sure future records at the best studios is an idiot lol
 02-13-2013, 10:36 PM         #68
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f future
 5 years ago '04        #69
123456 1 heat pts
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 Stupid Fresh said:
i get what you're saying

but my point was maybe he doesn't want to use autotune to sound perfect oddly enough

i get people saying its futures job to sing a certain way.. but what im saying is an egineer has more than likely told him the same sh*t and im sure Future doesn't give a fu*k
You're most likely right about that....I'm pretty sure Wayne and Future especially just wanna hear their voice do weird sh*t.

It's sloppy as sh*t to me...Future just comes up with catchy melodies sometimes
 5 years ago '12        #70
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 Matt504 said:
fam, Autotune isn't rocket science, once you have the right settings and set the proper song notation, all you have to do is sing.

I use the it all the time.



at the end of that first song . what in the fu*k omfg i cant
 5 years ago '06        #71
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future is the new t-pain...future doesn't sound like Pain and he raps more than Pain.

Its just future is that go to guy for hooks now and he uses the autotune which reminds people of T-pain.

Not saying T-pain owns or started autotune but he definitely popularized it to the mainstream again.

I don't think Future owes Pain anything its just his time to shine.

I think T-pain is in a better situation to talk sh*t so he went for it even though he didn't have to.

Future sings off key but once you get people to accept that it doesn't matter.

That off key sing just becomes what makes future him or one of the things that sets Future apart from T-pain.

And it will be a time were people will get tired of future just like Pain and Akon coming from hearing them all over the place all the time.


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 5 years ago '06        #72
datVAkid 37 heat pts37
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 Goosie McNeen said:
There are no rules in music.
bullsh*t
there are tones of rules to music... music is organized noise... learn about chord progressions and keys and dont just say sh*t out your a.ss
 5 years ago '07        #73
Goosie McNeen 11 heat pts11
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 datVAkid said:
bullsh*t
there are tones of rules to music... music is organized noise... learn about chord progressions and keys and dont just say sh*t out your a.ss


I played string bass in college.
Percussion since i was 6.
I play keys.
Guitar.
Accordion.
Im a producer.
Engineer
Not to mention artist.

What do you do again?

As u said music is organized NOISE.

You think jimi hendrix "played his guitar wrong"? Because it was upside down?
You think DJ Screw was "using his tables the wrong way"?
Using a plunger as a trumpet mute is wrong also, right?

Aint no rules to this sh*t. How u think Riff Raff, or Lil B has a following?

Your opinion card has been revoked sir.
 5 years ago '10        #74
DATKIDD121 29 heat pts29
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 datVAkid said:
bullsh*t
there are tones of rules to music... music is organized noise... learn about chord progressions and keys and dont just say sh*t out your a.ss
shut up. music is about what sounds good to the ear. 20 n*ggas on boxden cryin about the technical sh*t, and "offkey" singing, meanwhile rihanna MADE future keep those "offkey" vocals that he laid while writing the track for her to sing. rihanna, a trained vocalist, heard something in future's singing. and that collab is one of the hottest records out. so much for your key progressions and musical perfection
 5 years ago '04        #75
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 Skammy Gee said:
they have engineers sign confidentiality agreements to conceal the truth... Autotune and Melodyne are used by almost all of em.

no engineers dont sign sh*t... and tpain doesnt use autotune.. he actually uses this



also anyone wanting to find the key to any song they are doing use Mixed in Key for both PC/Mac PM me if you need it


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 5 years ago '05        #76
white-chocolate 124 heat pts124
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this guy is an idiot if he thinks he can run a longer type career with one style, especially that style being an unnatural vocals
he could sing still, i remember his first CD he had some non autotune hits on it
 5 years ago '12        #77
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T pain fell off once rappers realized they didn't have to pay him 40,000 dollars for somethin they could do themselves. I think young berg got it the closest on the song business. The thing wit t pain was that he made songs stand out back in 07. When I heard him do his thing on 2 step remix I was like oh sh*t. Then he k!lled kiss kiss wit chris brown and got money with Wayne. Future can't really put the stamp on sh*t like tp USED to. Future is just melodic, and at times he sucks. Tp can never come back though, he sucked wit he revolver cd...no hits, and he sucked on gucci's mixtape. He had his run. A good one. We'll see if future will last 4 years...his second album was already just a re release of his first one lol
 5 years ago '06        #78
datVAkid 37 heat pts37
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 Goosie McNeen said:


I played string bass in college.
Percussion since i was 6.
I play keys.
Guitar.
Accordion.
Im a producer.
Engineer
Not to mention artist.

What do you do again?

As u said music is organized NOISE.

You think jimi hendrix "played his guitar wrong"? Because it was upside down?
You think DJ Screw was "using his tables the wrong way"?
Using a plunger as a trumpet mute is wrong also, right?

Aint no rules to this sh*t. How u think Riff Raff, or Lil B has a following?

Your opinion card has been revoked sir.
Producer
DJ
play piano drums organ guitar bass and sax whats good
and what the fu*k are you talking about
learn the theory of music...
because if you really did all those you was talking about you would know exactly what im talking about
 5 years ago '06        #79
datVAkid 37 heat pts37
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 DATKIDD121 said:
shut up. music is about what sounds good to the ear. 20 n*ggas on boxden cryin about the technical sh*t, and "offkey" singing, meanwhile rihanna MADE future keep those "offkey" vocals that he laid while writing the track for her to sing. rihanna, a trained vocalist, heard something in future's singing. and that collab is one of the hottest records out. so much for your key progressions and musical perfection
so yaw saying singing off key is acceptable now...

im done

the life beat of music, the heartbeat of music is the key structure... if u break the key structure it sound horrible...
melodies clashes...
if u cant hear that then u dont deserve to have the ability of hearing
 5 years ago '06        #80
datVAkid 37 heat pts37
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 Goosie McNeen said:


I played string bass in college.
Percussion since i was 6.
I play keys.
Guitar.
Accordion.
Im a producer.
Engineer
Not to mention artist.

What do you do again?

As u said music is organized NOISE.

You think jimi hendrix "played his guitar wrong"? Because it was upside down?
You think DJ Screw was "using his tables the wrong way"?
Using a plunger as a trumpet mute is wrong also, right?

Aint no rules to this sh*t. How u think Riff Raff, or Lil B has a following?

Your opinion card has been revoked sir.
and i hate lil b and riff raff
i was raised on motown and jazz... real music

and who said anything about jimi hendrix playing the guitar upside down??? he still kept the key structure/pattern in his music
dj screw chopping and screwing still kept the key structure
playing the trumpet mute does nothing to the key or the note, it changes the velocity and resonance of the tone of trumpet... gtfo of here with this bullsh*t... i aint one of these lames music is my life bi*ch
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