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 5 years ago '11        #61
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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Stunna bursting these guys delusions by using stats

I got a few more. Gay is 17th in win shares among SF's, 27th in PER among SF's, 54th (out of 70) in TS%, 25th in fg% among SF's, 34th in 3p% among SF's. His per is actually below league average.

As to who is better, George and Deng are def better.


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 5 years ago '05        #62
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Lol @ "moneyball" in the NBA doesn't work when Sam presti does exactly just that. When the spurs use exactly just that. You either miss a shot or don't. You either let a man blow by you or force him to pass or miss a shot. Advanced stats come from what goes on in games. Most gms today have acknowledged how the use of synergy and advanced stats have helped them build teams in an era where the luxury tax is crippling. This is how small market teams like okc and the spurs can be successful. On the other hand, Bryan colangelo has been one of the only gms that had admitted that he doesn't use advanced metrics... It's no fu*ken wonder why he overpays for guys like Landry fields and bargnani and overlooks guys like Carl Landry or even jerryd Bayless.
 5 years ago '04        #63
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 Rubix said:
Lol @ "moneyball" in the NBA doesn't work when Sam presti does exactly just that. When the spurs use exactly just that. You either miss a shot or don't. You either let a man blow by you or force him to pass or miss a shot. Advanced stats come from what goes on in games. Most gms today have acknowledged how the use of synergy and advanced stats have helped them build teams in an era where the luxury tax is crippling. This is how small market teams like okc and the spurs can be successful. On the other hand, Bryan colangelo has been one of the only gms that had admitted that he doesn't use advanced metrics... It's no fu*ken wonder why he overpays for guys like Landry fields and bargnani and overlooks guys like Carl Landry or even jerryd Bayless.
Easy to say when you inherit a Durant or Duncan...
 5 years ago '11        #64
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And you can claim moneyball doesn't work, but you will be ignoring the fact that the spurs use advanced metrics. So does Presti. Mark Cuban also uses them. But you keep on believing that.
 5 years ago '12        #65
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 SickBlitz said:
just threw a 100 down on raptors +4.

hopefully my boy balls tonight
SMART MAN

chris paul and matt barnes is out
 5 years ago '05        #66
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 Russ369 said:
Easy to say when you inherit a Durant or Duncan...
They use it to draft. Kawhi Leonard, harden, Westbrook..they use it to add role players like sefolosha, Kevin Martin, etc. players who don't demand high salaries and/or don't cripple their franchise with bad production and poor contracts. A team like Toronto can't afford to be pressed up against the cap. We just don't generate money like the Knicks and lakers to suck year in and out while having high payrolls. But whatever, u can be ignorant to the fact if u choose to but colangelo has made many many fu*ked up moves by using the same type of thinking you are. I personally would like my GM to be more diligent.
 02-01-2013, 03:24 PM         #67
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 maxnn said:
And you can claim moneyball doesn't work, but you will be ignoring the fact that the spurs use advanced metrics. So does Presti. Mark Cuban also uses them. But you keep on believing that.
Presti got durant, westbrook, perkins and ibaka while 1 is arguably the best in the game

Spurs having david robinson, tim duncan, tony parker, ginobili and bruce bowens aint playin moneyball....

Cuban had 1 good season and I have no idea how that happened but they also lost to a 8seed
 5 years ago '12        #68
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im still on the fence with this trade. hopefuly rudy proves me wrong
 5 years ago '04        #69
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 maxnn said:
Stunna bursting his these guys delusions by using stats

I got a few more. Gay is 17th in win shares among SF's, 27th in PER among SF's, 54th (out of 70) in TS%, 25th in fg% among SF's, 34th in 3p% among SF's. His per is actually below league average.

As to who is better, George and Deng are def better.
russ didn't have a response
 5 years ago '04        #70
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He's having an off year... We'll see f*ggots
 5 years ago '04        #71
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 Russ369 said:
He's having an off year... We'll see f*ggots
good response
 5 years ago '11        #72
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Off year you say? OK, let's look at his career. His career PER is a tiny bit above average.

His teams don't get any worse with him off the court



and the fact that the Grizzlies went to game 7 of the second round as an 8 seed without him, and never made it out of the 1st round (despite having homecourt in the 1st round last year) with him.

You are acting like he makes a huge impact on your team, and the facts (both this year and for his career) say he doesn't.
 5 years ago '04        #73
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 StuNNa said:
good response
Compared to other years, yea he is...

And the circumstances are different, look at the season when Gasol was traded, before zbo and Marc Gasol changed the system... He played well.
 02-01-2013, 03:42 PM         #74
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 maxnn said:
Off year you say? OK, let's look at his career. His career PER is a tiny bit above average.

His teams don't get any worse with him off the court



and the fact that the Grizzlies went to game 7 of the second round as an 8 seed without him, and never made it out of the 1st round (despite having homecourt in the 1st round last year) with him.

You are acting like he makes a huge impact on your team, and the facts (both this year and for his career) say he doesn't.
Could last years clippers team beat the spurs with ginobili out in 7?
 5 years ago '04        #75
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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 maxnn said:
Off year you say? OK, let's look at his career. His career PER is a tiny bit above average.

His teams don't get any worse with him off the court



and the fact that the Grizzlies went to game 7 of the second round as an 8 seed without him, and never made it out of the 1st round (despite having homecourt in the 1st round last year) with him.

You are acting like he makes a huge impact on your team, and the facts (both this year and for his career) say he doesn't.


Rudy Gay gonna get his 25 PPG and the Raps are never gonna reach the playoffs. If thats what makes you happy russ then more power to you
 5 years ago '11        #76
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Why is only knicks fans hating on GAY?

Gay is the 4th best SF in the game. 5+ Years avg. 19 a game?

n*ggaz just hate for no apparent reason.


 5 years ago '10        #77
Hovi Bryant 676 heat pts676
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@ this thread. Raptors got robbed. BC needs to get his head chopped.
 5 years ago '05        #78
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 Russ369 said:

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My body is ready.



Can't wait!!!
 5 years ago '04        #79
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 Loso Luciano24 said:
Why is only knicks fans hating on GAY?

Gay is the 4th best SF in the game. 5+ Years avg. 19 a game?

n*ggaz just hate for no apparent reason.


maxnn is a knicks fan?

Gay 4th best SF in the game
 5 years ago '10        #80
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 Loso Luciano24 said:
Why is only knicks fans hating on GAY?

Gay is the 4th best SF in the game. 5+ Years avg. 19 a game?

n*ggaz just hate for no apparent reason.


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