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 5 years ago '11        #21
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 KFrizzle said:
So you want to ban Farrari's and camaro's and vipers then too

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i mean they do go 60mph in like what?, 3/4/5 sec....

thats not safe either....
we need the almighty Gov. to help us live safely right???
You comparison fails seeing how much cars are regulated. Speed limits, seat belts, driver license, etc. And also, cars sold in the US have an electronically limited top speed for safety.
 5 years ago '06        #22
KFrizzle 296 heat pts296 OP
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 Kadillac87 said:
My God, are you really this dumb?

You're trying argue the capabilities? The cyclic rate is the standard for measuring these guns. Go look at the specifications and they will show 1000+ RPM. What you're talking is the sustained rated. These are usually 100+ RPM. Idiot.
Dude i know these guns shot fast... very Fast... That's why ppl buy them, ya know??
but if you are against guns that are too fast...

are you against cars that are too fast then...

You could be driving over 100 mph and k!ll '1000 ppl per min'


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i could only see banning these guns, if they were the guns used to k!ll ppl...
but dude, they are not.

So, basically you think they are too scary... and 'the greater good' is the reason we should ban them....
well fu*k, by that logic we need to ban a sh*t ton of things... Booze, Cigs, Fast Food, etc....


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 5 years ago '06        #23
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 Kadillac87 said:
You comparison fails seeing how much cars are regulated. Speed limits, seat belts, driver license, etc. And also, cars sold in the US have an electronically limited top speed for safety.
Guns aren't already Regulated??? guns aren't limited to qualified individuals for safety?

Guns locks, Guns safes, Shooting capability limits (fully auto)
 5 years ago '11        #24
Kadillac87 225 heat pts225
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 KFrizzle said:
Dude i know these guns shot fast... very Fast... That's why ppl buy them, ya know??
but if you are against, guns that are too fast...

are you against, cars that are too fast then...

You could be driving over 100 mph and k!ll '1000 ppl per min'


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i could only see banning these guns, if they were the guns used to k!ll ppl...
but dude, they are not.

So, basically you think they are too scary... and 'the greater good' is the reason we should ban them....
well fu*k, by that logic we need to ban a sh*t ton of things... Booze, Cigs, Fast Food, etc....

You keep trying to compare guns to cars

If you k!ll someone with a car, you used it wrong.

If you k!ll someone with a gun, you used it right.

There are many regulation in place to improve car safety. Hell, you need a learner's permit for a year before you can legally obtain a driver's license. Speed limits everywhere. Seat belts laws. Crash star rating imposed by the government. You name it, the government has regulated it to the max for safety.

Do you have to train for a year to purchase a gun? No. Are there speed limits on guns? No. Are you required to register you gun? No.

So again, you keep trying to compare something heavily regulated to something that is not. Not only is it not a logical comparison, it also hurts your own case. The government regulates everything to increase safety but yet you're trying to say guns shouldn't be touched?

Do you think we should be able to purchase tanks too? They're classified as vehicles too. The Ferrari F430 was banned in the US because it didn't meet safety standards. Your logic fails.


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 5 years ago '11        #25
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 KFrizzle said:
Guns aren't already Regulated??? guns aren't limited to qualified individuals for safety?

Guns locks, Guns safes, Shooting capability limits (fully auto)
No they're not. You can purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check
 5 years ago '09        #26
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 Mr AirRic said:
are you really comparing automatic weapons that can k!ll a large amount of people in seconds, to soda....?

:ohhellnonas:
you cannot buy a fully automatic weapon. all those "pistols" are modified. just because it looks like a scary uzi doesnt mean the public gets the full auto version
 5 years ago '06        #27
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 Kadillac87 said:
You can trying to compare guns to cars

If you k!ll someone with a car, you used it wrong.

If you k!ll someone with a gun, you used it right.

There are many regulation in place to improve car safety. Hell, you need a learner's permit for a year before you can legally obtain a driver's license. Speed limits everywhere. Seat belts laws. Crash star rating imposed by the government. You name it, the government has regulated it to the max for safety.

Do you have to train for a year to purchase a gun? No. Are there speed limits on guns? No. Are you required to register you gun? No.

So again, you can trying to compare something heavily regulated to something that is not. Not only is it not a logical comparison, it also hurts your own case. The government regulates everything to increase safety but yet you're trying to say guns shouldn't be touched?

Its not really Car vs Gun, but the ability to do much more than necessary with each...
ability to shoot a lot of bullets / the ability to go really really fast...

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Maybe before banning guns...

we should that a look at requiring training.. or a like a driver's license, require a card so one can be allowed to own 'scary' AR type of weapons...

How are cars heavily regulated, have you ever seen ppl drive?
fu*k, way to many fools are allowed to drive i think... Christ how many DUI can u have and still drive... Like 4 here in WIS...

Banning weed works really good right???
 5 years ago '06        #28
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 Kadillac87 said:
No they're not. You can purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check
False, if you ever went to a gun show and purchased a gun...

You need to file out info on a computer there... so they aren't selling guns to ppl w/ felonies...
 5 years ago '11        #29
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 KFrizzle said:
Its not really Car vs Gun, but the ability to do much more than necessary with each...
ability to shoot a lot of bullets / the ability to go really really fast...

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Maybe before banning guns...

we should that a look at requiring training.. or a like a driver's license, require a card so one can be allowed to own 'scary' AR type of weapons...

How are cars heavily regulated, have you ever seen ppl drive?
fu*k, way to many fools are allowed to drive i think... Christ how many DUI can u have and still drive... Like 4 here in WIS...

Banning weed works really good right???

The ability to go really really fast in a car is regulated as I have already stated. Most cars are electronically limited to about 115 MPH even though their max top speed could be 200+. Again, your logic is failing.
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 KFrizzle said:
False, if you ever went to a gun show and purchased a gun...

You need to file out info on a computer there... so they aren't selling guns to ppl w/ felonies...


There are 33 states where you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. Are you a low informed voter?
 5 years ago '06        #31
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 Kadillac87 said:


There are 33 states where you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. Are you a low informed voter?
Dude, have u ever got a gun from a gun show??
Have you ever bought a gun, legally???

What states, don't require a background check???


that bill is for checking backgrounds... Not against it...

Transfer of firearms; criminal history records check; penalties. Adds a definition of "firearms show vendor" and requires that a criminal history record information check be performed on the prospective transfere before the vendor may transfer firearms at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. The bill also requires that the promoter of a firearms show provide vendors with access to licensed dealers who will conduct the criminal history record information check.
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 Kadillac87 said:


There are 33 states where you can buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. Are you a low informed voter?
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 Kadillac87 said:
The ability to go really really fast in a car is regulated as I have already stated. Most cars are electronically limited to about 115 MPH even though their max top speed could be 200+. Again, your logic is failing.
The ability to shoot fully auto is regulated... to purchase a gun, you need a background check...

If regulating is what you think is such a good thing for cars...
If you want to conceal and Carry in Wis you need to take a class???

why not try regulating guns more? requiring a license or training...
Why is the left only for Banning...

Agian, how's that ban on Marijuana goin???




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Why are you for limiting freedom of guns, but not cars or booze??
 5 years ago '09        #34
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 Kadillac87 said:
The ability to go really really fast in a car is regulated as I have already stated. Most cars are electronically limited to about 115 MPH even though their max top speed could be 200+. Again, your logic is failing.
cars do not have governors on them.

plenty of sport cars can well exceed 115

lol
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 KFrizzle said:
The ability to shoot fully auto is regulated... to purchase a gun, you need a background check...

If regulating is what you think is such a good thing for cars...
If you want to conceal and Carry in Wis you need to take a class???

why not try regulating guns more? requiring a license or training...
Why is the left only for Banning...

Agian, how's that ban on Marijuana goin???




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Why are you for limiting freedom of guns, but not cars or booze??
hows that handgun ban in chicago going?
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 s34ny said:
i dont know where people come up with sh*t

just because there is a youtube video of someone demonstrating a fully automatic mac 11 does NOT mean i can go to a gun store or gun show and buy one
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 ill 800 said:
hows that handgun ban in chicago going?
Oh just great...
Ya know...
besides the deaths that are equal to sandy hook every month...



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 KFrizzle said:
Dude, have u ever got a gun from a gun show??
Have you ever bought a gun, legally???

What states, don't require a background check???


that bill is for checking backgrounds... Not against it...

Transfer of firearms; criminal history records check; penalties. Adds a definition of "firearms show vendor" and requires that a criminal history record information check be performed on the prospective transfere before the vendor may transfer firearms at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. The bill also requires that the promoter of a firearms show provide vendors with access to licensed dealers who will conduct the criminal history record information check.
I guess you can't read. You still trying to argue that you have to submit to a background check at a gun show. You're only required to undergo a background check if it's a federally licensed dealer. Explain to me, sir, if every gun purchase requires a background check, why did the NRA say they're against universal background checks?



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 ill 800 said:
i dont know where people come up with sh*t

just because there is a youtube video of someone demonstrating a fully automatic mac 11 does NOT mean i can go to a gun store or gun show and buy one
It's these low-info voter bro...

believe anything they are told, that is against all of us " evil redneck Racist Army-Wannabe's Conservatives....

Cuz it is common sense, the right-wing is responsibly for all the problems in our country....

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 ill 800 said:
cars do not have governors on them.

plenty of sport cars can well exceed 115

lol
Oh really?


A speed limiter is a governor used to limit the top speed of a vehicle. For some classes of vehicle and in some jurisdictions they are a statutory requirement, for some other vehicles the manufacturer provides a non-statutory system which may be fixed or programmable by the driver.

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