Kobe Says If He Didn’t Play With Shaq, He’d Have More MVPs & Numbers Would Be Ridiculous

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 01-18-2013, 09:14 PM         #41
varcitykid  OP
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Lol kobe is just a selfish n*gga..Shaq helped ya a.ss get rings, you cant do it all by yourself.. and when you try you complain.... "i need help frommy teammates" lol
 5 years ago '12        #42
GucciBoy347 39 heat pts39
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Kobe w/o shaq with be a taller iverson





That's my mamba doe . Because of Shaq and Phil's help, he will go down as a top 5 player all -time , and the second greatest sg ever
 5 years ago '05        #43
rawchester 14 heat pts14
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it's threads like these that make me remember why i dont post in here. Y'all say Kobe has no rings without Shaq, well guess what. Shaq has less rings without kobe
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Kobe won 2 rings with gasol (winless in all his playoff appearances with 50+ win teams)> and you say he couldnt win without shaq. Then you have guys like Lamar Odom, who are on record as saying Kobe is the best thing/player that they have ever been around/seen.

People also act like its an easy thing to come onto a team with 4 all stars as a TEENAGER and state your claim! He had to beat out 3x all star Eddie Jones just to get a shot! and i wont talk about Eddie Jones cus most clowns on this board probably never saw him play in his prime. The same Eddie jones that was dunkin on dudes from damn near the FT line IN GAME!

Take into account that Jerry West traded a proven centre in Vlade Divac, for a high school 2 guard! Go look up Vlade's states and accomplishments. yea, that type of trade happens now-a-days! lol.

hate on Kobe all you want but the fact remains that he has outlasted all his peers, at a much higher level, from the 96' draft (AI, Ray Allen, marbury, Camby, Abdur Rahim, nash etc..) in probably the deepest draft of all time. Has 5 rings to show and the man is having one of his best seasons ever.
 01-18-2013, 10:03 PM         #44
k3llz  OP
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Kobe with no Shaq, would avg. 35 especially at 25....wow
 5 years ago '04        #45
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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so he would have 2 mvps(its not like shaq and duncan wasn't playing),a couple of more records and probably 2-3 less rings depending on the teammates he had
 5 years ago '05        #46
rawchester 14 heat pts14
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 k3llz said:
Kobe with no Shaq, would avg. 35 especially at 25....wow
yesss!!!
 5 years ago '10        #47
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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shaq helped kobes numbers. he allowed kobe to play one on one because shaq was an automatic double and triple team everytime he touched the ball. had he played without shaq n*gga would be shooting 44% 42% consistently.
 5 years ago '11        #48
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 beast mode said:
shaq helped kobes numbers. he allowed kobe to play one on one because shaq was an automatic double and triple team everytime he touched the ball. had he played without shaq n*gga would be shooting 44% 42% consistently.
So why did Kobe play better after shaq left
 5 years ago '05        #49
I'm The Dan 7 heat pts
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Honestly, without Shaq, Kobe would be kinda like LeBron. 2 titles (1 for bron), but very good overall stats.
 5 years ago '11        #50
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 rawchester said:
it's threads like these that make me remember why i dont post in here. Y'all say Kobe has no rings without Shaq, well guess what. Shaq has less rings without kobe
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Kobe won 2 rings with gasol (winless in all his playoff appearances with 50+ win teams)> and you say he couldnt win without shaq. Then you have guys like Lamar Odom, who are on record as saying Kobe is the best thing/player that they have ever been around/seen.

People also act like its an easy thing to come onto a team with 4 all stars as a TEENAGER and state your claim! He had to beat out 3x all star Eddie Jones just to get a shot! and i wont talk about Eddie Jones cus most clowns on this board probably never saw him play in his prime. The same Eddie jones that was dunkin on dudes from damn near the FT line IN GAME!

Take into account that Jerry West traded a proven centre in Vlade Divac, for a high school 2 guard! Go look up Vlade's states and accomplishments. yea, that type of trade happens now-a-days! lol.

hate on Kobe all you want but the fact remains that he has outlasted all his peers, at a much higher level, from the 96' draft (AI, Ray Allen, marbury, Camby, Abdur Rahim, nash etc..) in probably the deepest draft of all time. Has 5 rings to show and the man is having one of his best seasons ever.
I like how nobody else has acknowledged this, but then again 90% of the people that comment on here are pretty unintelligent
 5 years ago '09        #51
The Bully 352 heat pts352
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 DEDOS said:
Shaq got Tripled Team every time he touched the rock



AND KOBE STILL DIDNT SHOOT OVER 46%
 5 years ago '12        #52
Izg0d 
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SAY'S THE BALL HOGG
 5 years ago '11        #53
Bullet22 74 heat pts74
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 Gater said:
He needs to think pau gasol for that

We know what happened when he had smush and Kwame Brown

He wanted to be traded
At least he didn't leave to another superstars team, kobe said he wanted too but didn't...actions speak louder than words
 5 years ago '09        #54
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 rawchester said:
it's threads like these that make me remember why i dont post in here. Y'all say Kobe has no rings without Shaq, well guess what. Shaq has less rings without kobe
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Kobe won 2 rings with gasol (winless in all his playoff appearances with 50+ win teams)> and you say he couldnt win without shaq. Then you have guys like Lamar Odom, who are on record as saying Kobe is the best thing/player that they have ever been around/seen.

People also act like its an easy thing to come onto a team with 4 all stars as a TEENAGER and state your claim! He had to beat out 3x all star Eddie Jones just to get a shot! and i wont talk about Eddie Jones cus most clowns on this board probably never saw him play in his prime. The same Eddie jones that was dunkin on dudes from damn near the FT line IN GAME!

Take into account that Jerry West traded a proven centre in Vlade Divac, for a high school 2 guard! Go look up Vlade's states and accomplishments. yea, that type of trade happens now-a-days! lol.

hate on Kobe all you want but the fact remains that he has outlasted all his peers, at a much higher level, from the 96' draft (AI, Ray Allen, marbury, Camby, Abdur Rahim, nash etc..) in probably the deepest draft of all time. Has 5 rings to show and the man is having one of his best seasons ever.

 5 years ago '12        #55
Prostyle 2 heat pts
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Is he lying?

Hop off Shaq's sack and look at the facts.

Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
1999–00† L.A. Lakers 66 62 38.2 .468 .319.821 6.3 4.9 1.6 .9 22.5
2000–01† L.A. Lakers 68 68 40.9 .464 .305 .853 5.9 5.0 1.7 .6 28.5
2001–02† L.A. Lakers 80 80 38.3 .469 .250 .829 5.5 5.5 1.5 .4 25.2
2002–03 L.A. Lakers 82 82 41.5 .451 .383 .843 6.9 5.9 2.2 .8 30.0
Those were definitely MVP years, but playing with Shaq over shadowed it all.

It's not like the n*gga said, "I could've won ships without Diesel''
He's just saying he was coming into his own as belonging in a conversation with a Jordan, but Shaq over shadowed it.
 5 years ago '04        #56
Rashad69 11 heat pts11
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 I'm The Dan said:
Honestly, without Shaq, Kobe would be kinda like LeBron. 2 titles (1 for bron), but very good overall stats.
This.

I mean, its not like Kobe is lying. It makes perfect sense.
 5 years ago '06        #57
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 justinjones said:
so he would have 2 mvps(its not like shaq and duncan wasn't playing),a couple of more records and probably 2-3 less rings depending on the teammates he had
It also depends on where he is playing. We all know Lakers get gifted players so his career would look a lot like LeBron's. Start your career with the Hornets, have crazy a.ss stats, then leave and join another superstar is what would of happened.
 5 years ago '05        #58
rawchester 14 heat pts14
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 Neo22 said:
I like how nobody else has acknowledged this, but then again 90% of the people that comment on here are pretty unintelligent
same reason why i dont post in here too much. Trolls just love to pull up stats with no background or knowledge of the history or scenario that was taking place.
 5 years ago '07        #59
OG Perez 16 heat pts16
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 DEDOS said:
Shaq got Tripled Team every time he touched the rock



AND KOBE STILL DIDNT SHOOT OVER 46%
Im screaming
 5 years ago '11        #60
Bullet22 74 heat pts74
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 rawchester said:
same reason why i dont post in here too much. Trolls just love to pull up stats with no background or knowledge of the history or scenario that was taking place.
Yeah exactly, idk why people even responding to these trolls...they already come off ignorant, arguing with then just makes it worse
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