Kobe Bryant is ruining Kobe Bryant's historic season

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 5 years ago '11        #41
lefthookright 64 heat pts64
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n*ggas hate kobe with a passion all over the world besides L.A. lmao its ironic this article is posted when i just watched 1ST HAND kobe hold kyrie to 15pts lol. sh*t is hilarious. They hate Kobe because he is a winner. But thats what winners do. They win. nobody can win all the time. I like the hate tho. aint no dwade(top 5 player), chalmers(good defender), battier(defensive specialist), ray allen(solid defender) to help him on d. Kobe has an old metta thats it. He has to be the main scorer and guard the teams PG because of nash liabilities on defense. kyrie has dropped 30 plus in 4 of his last 6 games. kobe play Damn good d tonight and he is WELL well past his prime.

None better besides MJ. remember that shi while u diceating a n*gga that abandoned his own team to go run to another n*gga team and recruit a top PF(bosh) to boot. Blind azz bron stans have dumb azz logic. lets see how nice lebron is after his 16th year. lol he gonna have to lose some weight and get a jumpshot cause lowering ya head and attacking the rim aint go cut it when u slow down. miek and kobe had fundamental skills that allowed them to transition after their raw talent diminished.

n*ggas hate the SHooting Gawd but He be that n*gga tho.
 5 years ago '11        #42
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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Pippen guarded the best player so Jordan could save energy Kobe has to do everything
 01-14-2013, 04:33 AM         #43
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WTF?! Are laker fans the most blind in the NBA, can't believe I'm reading "Kobe shouldn't have to carry the team on both ends." So thats an excuse to leave a man open all the time, the others should carry his load on the defensive end cause he's busy stat padding on the offense.

A bunch of dumb fu*ks in this thread
 5 years ago '09        #44
The Bully 383 heat pts383
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 lefthookright said:
n*ggas hate kobe with a passion all over the world besides L.A. lmao its ironic this article is posted when i just watched 1ST HAND kobe hold kyrie to 15pts lol. sh*t is hilarious. They hate Kobe because he is a winner. But thats what winners do. They win. nobody can win all the time. I like the hate tho. aint no dwade(top 5 player), chalmers(good defender), battier(defensive specialist), ray allen(solid defender) to help him on d. Kobe has an old metta thats it. He has to be the main scorer and guard the teams PG because of nash liabilities on defense. kyrie has dropped 30 plus in 4 of his last 6 games. kobe play Damn good d tonight and he is WELL well past his prime.

None better besides MJ. remember that shi while u diceating a n*gga that abandoned his own team to go run to another n*gga team and recruit a top PF(bosh) to boot. Blind azz bron stans have dumb azz logic. lets see how nice lebron is after his 16th year. lol he gonna have to lose some weight and get a jumpshot cause lowering ya head and attacking the rim aint go cut it when u slow down. miek and kobe had fundamental skills that allowed them to transition after their raw talent diminished.

n*ggas hate the SHooting Gawd but He be that n*gga tho.
 5 years ago '11        #45
chenkcity 7 heat pts
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Kobes one on one defense is still on point.

But his team defense this year has been trash along with everyone on the Lakers. Noone rotates in time or picks up anyones elses man after someone does rotate.

He's still one of the best one on one defenders in the league

and im fu*kin dying at the BX scrubs on here calling Kobes defensive reputation a fluke when not so long ago in 2008 the entire Olympic team was saying he was the best defender on the squad and how they all learned from him.
 5 years ago '10        #46
lboog1423 298 heat pts298
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Kobe is prolly old enough to be half the n*ggas he guards fathers, but we sittin in here expecting a n*gga to lock down players every night smh. I will admit it has been bad at points this year but its mainly bc he be gambling wayyyy to much
 5 years ago '05        #47
GROUCHCARTEL 97 heat pts97
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I am one of the biggest critics of Kobe(l can't stand the guy) but to be fair...

A)Kobe Bryant is in his second to last year of his contract..Scoring titles will get him the last mega payday contract he's angling for.
B)Defensive Rotations are not a staple of a Mike D'Antoni defense..at all..ever..The bigs get the rebound,outlet pass to the guards who are supposed to score in 7 seconds or less...which Kobe lives to do..
C)He said something had to give in the preseason saying that he exerted too much energy on defense to be effective offensively.D12 and Metta or Pau were supposed to help lessen the load but we've seen how that has gone..
D)He will be exposed by younger 2 guards who he can't keep up with.The man is 34 years old with a bum knee.A team with good help defense would cover the slack but again this is a D'Antoni team.Trust me I should know as a long suffering Knick fan who saw it first hand.
E)He's been named to 12 All defensive First teams in his career so..
 5 years ago '09        #48
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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 GROUCHCARTEL said:
I am one of the biggest critics of Kobe(l can't stand the guy) but to be fair...

A)Kobe Bryant is in his second to last year of his contract..Scoring titles will get him the last mega payday contract he's angling for.
B)Defensive Rotations are not a staple of a Mike D'Antoni defense..at all..ever..The bigs get the rebound,outlet pass to the guards who are supposed to score in 7 seconds or less...which Kobe lives to do..
C)He said something had to give in the preseason saying that he exerted too much energy on defense to be effective offensively.D12 and Metta or Pau were supposed to help lessen the load but we've seen how that has gone..
D)He will be exposed by younger 2 guards who he can't keep up with.The man is 34 years old with a bum knee.A team with good help defense would cover the slack but again this is a D'Antoni team.Trust me I should know as a long suffering Knick fan who saw it first hand.
E)He's been named to 12 All defensive First teams in his career so..
He was undeserving for alot of them as well
 5 years ago '05        #49
TheT 21 heat pts21
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 AJtheGreat said:
Its the roaming and gambling that makes me smh. All he has to do stay with his man. He was able to get away with it the last couple of years. This year, though, its been magnified x100 with that horrible record.
This
 01-14-2013, 11:16 AM         #50
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Doesn't matter, none of it is going to count when the Lakers don't even make it to the playoffs
 5 years ago '04        #51
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 Bea5T said:
Was jordan suppose to carry the wizards to the playoffs?

People treating kobe like he's in his prime

He's already putting in more minutes than he should


Jordan played great defense in Washington... He had to much heart and was too competitive to be weak at anything... I remember when he shut down the then good Vince Carter after Carter began talking sh*t after scoring big in a half...

Jordan came out and held him to 2 points on like some ridicluously low FG%... Then Jordan went to the press conference and told the reporters how and why he shut Carter down... I recall a Jordan getting fouled on one end in Indiana getting angry for not getting the call and unlike Kobe who would sit in the back court bi*ch and moan and get a technical... Jordan hustled down court at 39 years old and had the block of the year on Ron Mercer where he two handed his sh*t on the glass...

Thats the kind of hustle and defense Jordan gave to the Wizards... And he still carried them offensively... The difference was Jordan had nowhere near the talent on that Wizards team and Jordan himself wasn't healthy he didnt even start 40+ of the games his last 2 seasons and his first year back he barely started half the season but his team was 27-26 in the games he started... Kobe is under .500... If Jordan was able to start all 82 games the Wizards would have made the playoffs... His team was 10-19 when he didn't start
 5 years ago '12        #52
sigNN 14 heat pts14
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ive been saying this sh*t for a while all them n*ggas are lazy
 5 years ago '04        #53
dre03 
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 Cloud 420 said:
He is roaming and gambling because the team is terrible defensively. Hes trying to be everywhere at once.
Candidate for one of the dumbest things i ever heard... So He is neglecting his responsiblity to help people with their reponsibility?

So who then picks up Kobe's responsiblity??? While trying to help a teammate you think can't hold their man... you leave your man wide open all the time... You seriously want to defend Kobe's no man land defense with that statement?? You can't be serious... That makes absolutely no sense
 5 years ago '05        #54
I_REP_VA 10 heat pts10
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I love when this Michael Jordan prototype gets exposed..

Respect the GOAT.. Kobe will never be on MJ's level...

 5 years ago '10        #55
Hovi Bryant 676 heat pts676
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 Ldogg310 said:
If yall actually pay attention and watch games instead of espn highlights you would see kobe is still a solid one on one defender.

He kept kyrie in front of him more than a few times, got burned too but he isnt as quick

Played good defense on westbrook more than a few times got burned too....

He isnt young but he can still defend, the team as a whole has defensive issues and blown a.ssignments all the time, not just kobe. Rotations are terrible and communication is nonexistent thats the problem not kobe individually...

I do admit tho he gets lazy on rotations and more times than not lets his man go by him and then he reaches for a steal, but hes counting on dwight too so

We need more heart and hustle, earl clark and jordan hill are perfect but we lost hill for the season now, so dwight and clark gotta step up.
The problem with Boxden, nobody likes to read.

One of the many ironies of message boards.

The article states what you said, but the OP just hand picked some sh*t.

Kobe can still play shutdown defense one on one, but he sucks as a team defender. I think he's always have to be honest. He gets murdered in off ball screens. Now he doesn't even know when one happens.
 5 years ago '12        #56
Ronfrenchie 73 heat pts73
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 Don Kaliko said:
if you don't believe what i'm about to say, you could go back and watch the game again:

that was the game where if kobe didn't watch everybody elses man, they would've made an easy shot shot, but at the same time, when he did that, his man would be wide open. when you look at that game, when kobe had his man, the other players would be wide open. example; when kobe was guarding manu, jackson hit 2 wide open 3's, back to back, and kobe was forced to guard him. kobe had to pick his poison.
Exactly what I was going to say.
 5 years ago '08        #57
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 Ldogg310 said:
If yall actually pay attention and watch games instead of espn highlights you would see kobe is still a solid one on one defender.

He kept kyrie in front of him more than a few times, got burned too but he isnt as quick

Played good defense on westbrook more than a few times got burned too....

He isnt young but he can still defend, the team as a whole has defensive issues and blown a.ssignments all the time, not just kobe. Rotations are terrible and communication is nonexistent thats the problem not kobe individually...

I do admit tho he gets lazy on rotations and more times than not lets his man go by him and then he reaches for a steal, but hes counting on dwight too so

We need more heart and hustle, earl clark and jordan hill are perfect but we lost hill for the season now, so dwight and clark gotta step up.
only post that covers everything without being biased. the rest of u n*ggas are terrible at analyzing bball
 5 years ago '08        #58
Illuminati 248 heat pts248 OP
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Biased? I could have swore I urged all of you to read the article in it's entirety....

The bottom line in my eyes is that Kobe would further the Lakers cause by placing just much effort on defense as he does offense in the long run because the Lakers lack any real buy-in on that side of the ball.


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 5 years ago '08        #59
slimdogg3325 1 heat pts
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^like Ldogg said, i was responding only to the ignorant comments, not the article.
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