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 5 years ago '06        #861
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State of the Noles: Defensive End
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When it comes to recruiting, coaches need to be thinking long-term. It's not just about which holes must be filled immediately, but rather where the needs might be in two or three more years.

With that in mind, NoleNation writers David Hale and Corey Dowlar are going position by position, looking at what FSU has on its roster now, and who might provide reinforcements down the line, projecting starters and evaluating the depth through 2015.

Today, we're looking at one of FSU's most productive positions under Jimbo Fisher: Defensive end.

Current scholarship DEs (6):
Chris Casher (RFr.)
Giorgio Newberry (RSo.)
Mario Edwards Jr. (So.)
Davarez Bryant (Fr.)
Desmond Hollin (Fr.), Demarcus Walker (Fr.)

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Mario Edwards Jr. is on the verge of a dynamic season in 2013.
Potential early departures: Edwards is still a long way from proving himself at the college level, but the former No. 1 overall recruit has the talent, size and pedigree to be a pro prospect by the end of 2013. He can't jump to the NFL until the end of the 2014 season though.

Predicted starters (Hale's pick/Dowlar's pick)
2013: Edwards, Casher (Hale)/Edwards, Newberry (Dowlar)
2014: Edwards, Casher (Hale)/Edwards, Casher (Dowlar)
2015: Walker, Casher (Hale)/Edwards, Casher (Dowlar)

Why they'll start: Edwards appears a lock to join the starting lineup after he stepped in for an injured Cornellius Carradine for the final two games of the 2012 season. It was something of a whirlwind turnaround for the talented pass-rusher. He was originally slated to redshirt, found playing time when Brandon Jenkins went down, and by year's end, he was the foundation for the future at the position.

Edwards certainly has the talent to blossom into an impact player immediately, but with FSU losing three defensive ends who all figure to be selected early in April's NFL draft, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Edwards figured to redshirt in 2012 because Fisher said the team had ample depth at the position. That won't be the case this time. Edwards and Newberry are the only two D-ends on the roster with anything close to significant experience -- and even that is limited.

Newberry seems the logical choice to get first crack at the other open spot, but the fact that he was passed so quickly by Edwards on last season's depth chart speaks to some of the concerns surrounding Newberry this year. He's got the size and speed to become a solid player, but he simply hasn't developed as quickly as coaches would have liked. Casher had his crack at playing time in 2012, too, but it was an injury that sidelined him. His upside isn't quite the same as Edwards, but he's a legitimate NFL talent. It'll be an interesting battle between Newberry and Casher this spring -- with the decision coming down to how much Casher has progressed without playing time and how much Fisher values Newberry's experience.

Walker and Hollin could find themselves in the mix, too. FSU has had success in the past with junior college transfers at the position, and Hollin hopes to follow in the footsteps of Carradine. But it's Walker, an early enrollee this spring, who could make the biggest impact. Given the lack of experience at the position, he could f!ght for a job now, but he could also be the heir apparent should Edwards bolt for the NFL after his junior campaign.

Who might FSU add: The Seminoles brought in Bryant and Hollin in the 2013 class to reinforce the position after losing Jenkins, Carradine and Bjoern Werner. With guys like Casher and Edwards already on board, it softened the blow somewhat, and allowed the Seminoles a little flexibility in recruiting.

Looking ahead, Florida State doesn't have any committed defensive ends at the moment. Denzel Ware (Crestview, Fla./Crestview), an ESPN Watch List end, was committed, but with the departure of D.J. Eliot to Kentucky, he's opened it back up.

They're hot after Lorenzo Carter (Norcross, Ga./Norcross) and Chad Thomas (Miami/Booker T. Washington), and look to be in pole position for Justin Thornton (Prichard, Ala./Vigor.).

Long-term grade: B. The stockpile of talent already in Tallahassee is both young and impressive, but the lack of experience means there are still questions, and there may not be a lot of margin for error in the short term. The loss of Eliot, who coached the trio of FSU ends heading to the NFL this year, also brings question marks. Still, the 2013 signing class added some much-needed depth, and a strong haul again in 2014 should keep this a position of strength for the next few years.
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Noles 2013 snapshot: Matthew Thomas
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With national signing day now beyond us, NoleNation takes a closer look at the next crop of Seminoles.

Vitals: Outside linebacker Matthew Thomas, 6-foot-3, 205 pounds.


Matthew Thomas
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Committed: Feb. 6, 2013.

ESPN.com grade: 90, five-star prospect.

ESPN.com rankings: No. 1 outside linebacker in the country, No. 6 player in the Southeast region, No. 4 prospect in the state of Florida and the No. 6 player in the country.

Picked Florida State over: Miami and Southern Cal.

State of the position: Florida State came into the 2013 class in need of linebackers. Nick Moody and Vince Williams depart after exhausting their eligibility leaving two open slots, but the argument could be made that the need existed prior to this recruiting cycle. Christian Jones returns as arguably their biggest recruit after turning down the lure of leaving for the NFL early. Telvin Smith is back as maybe the most dynamic player of the group. Reggie Northrup, Terrance Smith and Nigel Terrell are back, but with limited experience. Ukeme Eligwe, too, is in the running for playing time after taking a redshirt in his first season on campus.

ESPN.com scouting report: Thomas is a versatile and highly disruptive front-seven defender who still possesses a lot of upside. He shows the ability to make disruptive plays inside, outside and with his hand on the ground at defensive end. Tall with good length and raw strength, he needs bulk and improved power from hips and core. He's quick off the ball and flashes explosive playing speed aided by a long, accelerating stride and high motor. Utilizes speed, quick reactions and length to make plays sideline-to-sideline and disrupt out on the perimeter. He's difficult to outflank outside, but can also fill between the tackles with downhill pop and explosion despite playing high at times. Better pursuing vertically than laterally, but Thomas is athletic and agile enough to pursue through traffic. Adjusts athletically on the move and makes quick, downhill reads between the tackles without indecision, but he can improve his diagnosing skills on misdirection and the reading of keys better. Still, he can clear traffic demonstrating very good short and long pursuit effort. At this time, he lacks the dominant playing strength to stalemate at the point of attack consistently early in college career. Flashes the ability to wrap up and knock back as a tackler and he will drag down ball carriers from behind with his strength and long reach. He does tend to leave feet and lacks great power through his legs and overall lower base, though. His best a.sset may his ability to get after the quarterback and create havoc as an edge rusher and outside blitzer. Quick off the snap, he consistently beats blockers to the set point. Makes himself thin and attacks half the blocker's body while utilizing arm length to stay clean. He demonstrates the balance and agility to squeeze the pocket. Should offer game plan flexibility through alignment with his ability to pressure. He does need more experience in coverage. Thomas can cross over for depth, and he covers ground and has ball skills but is more effective rushing the passer than dropping. At the next level, we see the high-upside Thomas as a strong side OLB but he could likely develop into a Jack type OLB who specializes as a two-point pass rusher. He is a very talented, although at times raw defender, with a lot of tools to develop.

Expected impact: The chances of Thomas taking a redshirt, aside from some unexpected injury, are next to nothing. His range, speed and instincts will get him on the field early, and he has the potential to be an absolute nightmare on special teams. Florida State loves to use its rangy linebackers on coverage teams, so it wouldn't be a stretch to pencil him in on those. Ahead on the scoreboard, and ahead of the chains, Pruitt's defense could send in Thomas to rush the quarterback off the edge where he could really close down passing lanes with his long arms. Whether he fully grasps the playbook in the first year or not is the question. If he gets an understanding of his a.ssignments quickly, and shows the new defensive coaches he can be counted on, they will no doubt want him patrolling the line of scrimmage from his linebacker position as early as next year.
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 5 years ago '06        #863
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tate of the Noles: Quarterbacks
February, 11, 2013
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When it comes to recruiting, coaches need to be thinking long-term. It's not just about which holes must be filled immediately, but rather where the needs might be in two or three more years.

With that in mind, NoleNation writers David Hale and Corey Dowlar are going position by position looking at what FSU has on its roster now and who might provide reinforcements down the line, projecting starters and evaluating the depth through 2015.

First up is perhaps the most loaded and discussed position on the roster: Quarterback.

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Sophomore Jacob Coker has the athletic tools, but will that be enough to beat junior Clint Trickett and redshirt freshman Jameis Winston for the starting quarterback job?
Current scholarship QBs (5):
Clint Trickett (Jr.)
Jacob Coker (RSo.)
Jameis Winston (RFr.)
Sean Maguire (RFr.)
John Franklin III (Fr.)

Predicted starters (Hale's pick/Dowlar's pick)
2013: Coker/Coker
2014: Winston/Coker
2015: Winston/Winston

Potential early departures: Coker and Winston both have the potential to be early entrees in the NFL draft after as little as two years as the starter. Coker would be eligible at the end of 2013, Winston following the 2014 season.

Why they'll start: Little credit seems to be going to Trickett at this point, although he remains the nominal No. 1 on the depth chart. It's less an indictment of the junior, however, than it is a massive amount of expectations that surround his younger counterparts.

Coker and Winston both have an exceptional combination of arm strength and athleticism. Winston, who redshirted in 2012, comes with more potential upside and certainly more hype throughout the recruiting process. Coker, on the other hand, has two years of experience in the system, has taken game-day snaps already, and he has developed well beyond his three-star rating coming out of high school.

In the end, the decision remains a wild card, but a particularly intriguing one since only a year separates the two potential stars. If Coker wins the job, would Winston be willing to play understudy for the next two or three years before getting his shot? And if Winston wins out, does that mean he's passed Coker for good? Jimbo Fisher will have a wealth of riches this spring, but there has to be some concern about whether he can hang on to all that talent after someone officially wins the starting job.

Who might FSU add: Florida State already has a commitment at the quarterback position from De'Andre Johnson (Jacksonville, Fla./First Coast), but he's only a sophomore. Franklin has been added from the 2013 haul, but odds are he won't be stay at quarterback position for long. He's got tremendous athleticism that could be better served at wide receiver or defensive back.

The real question is who will be Florida State's 2014 commitment at quarterback. The top target at the position is Deshaun Watson (Gainesville, Ga./Gainesville). The only problem is, Watson is committed to Clemson currently. His high school plays a spread offense similar to what the Tigers run under Chad Morris, and it's close to Clemson's campus.

Right after Watson is J.J. Cosentino (Pittsburgh, Pa./Pittsburgh Central Catholic), the only other offered quarterback in the junior class. With Sal Sunseri's ties to the state, FSU could have an inside track to the 6-foot-5, 220-pound pocket passer.

Grade: A. At least, that's the grade for now. If Winston or Coker should decide to transfer -- and, to be clear, neither has indicated that they've considered the idea -- that would certainly shake things up. At the moment, however, FSU is in excellent shape at quarterback for the foreseeable future.
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 5 years ago '06        #864
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Noles 2013 snapshot: Jalen Ramsey
February, 12, 2013
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With national signing day now beyond us, NoleNation takes a look at the next crop of Seminoles.

Vitals: Cornerback Jalen Ramsey (Brentwood, Tenn./Brentwood Academy), 6-foot, 190 pounds

Committed: Feb. 6, 2013

ESPN.com grade: 89, four-star prospect

ESPN.com rankings: No. 4 cornerback in the nation, No. 10 prospect in Southeast region, No. 1 prospect in Tennessee, No. 14 player in the ESPN 150

Picked Florida State over: Florida and Southern Cal


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Four-star cornerback Jalen Ramsey was committed to USC but flipped to Florida State.
State of the position: Florida State's secondary returns in 2013 largely intact except for one huge part: Xavier Rhodes. The long, rangy corner declared for the draft as a redshirt junior, leaving his spot up for grabs. Ronald Darby and Nick Waisome, though, are both back with a full year of experience under their belts. Redshirt freshman Colin Blake will be ready to play along with Keelin Smith and Lamarcus Brutus. Terrence Brooks, a safety, is also capable of helping out at cornerback. Either way, Florida State needed a shutdown corner in this class, and they got one.

ESPN.com scouting report: Ramsey is an impressive athlete and overall player and he could get recruited at multiple positions. Has a very good blend of size, speed and leaping skills out on the perimeter at corner and it's likely the spot he will be recruited to play at the next level. A tall and sleek, fluid athlete with good length and range. Looks slighter on film than listed weight but is muscular. Plays faster than his listed testing times but appears quicker than fast. Really light and agile on his feet. Can mirror, break down and stay balanced as a space defender. Closes separation quickly with fluid transitional skills and burst out of breaks. Very good recovery and makeup speed aided by his length. Can open his hips and turn to run, but tends to rise in transition wasting movement. Best a.sset in coverage is his ability to compete for the jump-ball in one-on-one coverage. Needs to become more consistent as a wrap-up tackler. In coverage, we would like to see him play lower in transition, clean up footwork and polish overall man technique, particularly in press, where he has the arm length to develop. Still, Ramsey is a dynamic, smooth athlete with the length and athleticism to match up with today's bigger college receivers.

Expected impact: Waisome and Darby will clearly have a leg up at the cornerback spots, having been in the system and taking part in games last season. Blake, Brutus and Smith have been there, but lack significant experience. Ramsey's skill and athleticism will give him a chance. It is doubtful that he will take a redshirt and will likely contribute on special teams units and rotate into the secondary. Also a track athlete, Ramsey could get a look at the return teams, but that is a crowded depth chart already.
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 5 years ago '08        #865
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I doubt Los ends up at CB, and I doubt thats where he's best fitted. Guy is terrific as a OLB. In the box is where he should be.
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Los' problem is recognition which is the only reason Brooks starts over him. He has trouble analyzing plays and acting upon it. What saves him is his athleticism. Corner is a position where he can rely on his athleticism. I don't think he diagnosis plays well enough yet to take Brooks spot and the only way he gets at safety is if Joyner moves to corner which I doubt. I would like to see him at weakside LB too but what's going to be the learning curve for him. Again the biggest part of LB is play recognition, which is why we played nickel alot last year because that's what Moody had problems with, and then he is going to have to learn how to fill gaps, shed blocks, contain the outside etc.

End of the day I just want him on the field, if he's nothing else he's a playmaker, we seen that against G Tech. However this staff wants him on the field get him there. I could careless if they wanted him at DE.
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Honestly I'm not worried about anything but who the QB will be. Thats gonna make or break us. And if it ends up being Coker, does Winny transfer? And vice versa.
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I don't think Winston transfers but I've always expected Coker too. I think its either going to be Trickett or Winston. Jimbo isn't going to hold Jaboo off the field for two seasons and that's what would happen if Coker starts. Spring needs to hurry up and get here
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Slight update regarding coaching for you boys.

Jimbo is going to interview, and I believe hire, Mike Johnson soon. He's a former QB and OC in the NFL. He was the Offensive Coordinator for the 49ers and for UCLA.

I doubt Jimbo brings in this guy to be a puppet like Coley and Craig. He runs an offense very similar to Jimbo but I know he's more aggressive. If the hire goes through and Jimbo allows him to be the playcaller that would be a GREAT move. I'll keep yall updated as I learn more.
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FSU offers New Jersey WR

New Jersey WR Saeed Blacknall has been offered by FSU.

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This is the kid I've been talking about lately. Really like him as an overall player. Speed to burn, very smooth routes and terrific hands. One of the more polished WR's I've seen so far for 2014.

I plan on getting a full update with him tonight.
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FSU offers New Jersey WR

New Jersey WR Saeed Blacknall has been offered by FSU.

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This is the kid I've been talking about lately. Really like him as an overall player. Speed to burn, very smooth routes and terrific hands. One of the more polished WR's I've seen so far for 2014.

I plan on getting a full update with him tonight.

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5-star Safety Quin Blanding

Ohio State has passed Florida State, and is up there with UVA now. I think it is 1a UVA 1b OSU and then Florida State. Those are the schools he will most likely decide between in the next month or so.

Also, his former coach Darnell Moore, who stepped down as HC in November, does not speak highly of FSU. And it appears there is a lot of bitterness at Bayside towards FSU, because of the way EJ was "treated" by FSU fans on the message boards. Even though that has nothing to do with the school it's self.
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FSU close to hiring QB coach

Multiple sources have indicated to Noles247 that former UCLA offensive coordinator and 2011 interim head coach Mike Johnson is on campus today at Florida State.

We expect Johnson to be named the next quarterback coach at FSU within the next few days. As of now it's unknown if he'll get the offensive coordinator tag or if it will be someone else on staff.

Johnson has also coached in the NFL, most recently he was the offensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers in 2010
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jimbo aint lettin nobody call the plays lol.....n atleast mike johnson is black but i wanted a n*gga with ties to south florida man
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QUIN BLANDING fu*k YOU f*ggot.....DONT NOBODY NEED YOU OR ANOTHER BAYSIDE HS bi*ch......fu*k VIRGINIA FOOTBALL....YALL CAN ALL EAT A BAG OF SUPER d!ckS
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2014 Needs: Receiver

At Florida State it’s never hard to recruit wide receivers, it’s more-so about finding the right wide receivers. This year will be no different for Jimbo Fisher and his staff. Some of the best wide receiver talent in the country is within the borders of Florida. FSU carried ten scholarship wide receivers on roster this season, nine of which came from the state of Florida. This year the ‘Noles will look to sign three to four wideouts and most, if not all will likely come from the Sunshine State.


Coach Dawsey has a talented group of receivers returning in 2013.

On the roster: SR Kenny Shaw, RS SR Josh Gehres, SR Jarred Haggins, RS SR Willie Haulstead, SR Greg Dent, RS JR Christian Green, JR Rashad Greene, RS SO Kelvin Benjamin, RS FR Marvin Bracy, FR Isaiah Jones (incoming), FR Levonte Whitfield (incoming), FR Jesus Wilson (incoming)

Needs: 3-4

2014 Commits: Immokalee (Fla.) J.C. Jackson, Miami (Fla.) Northwestern JoJo Robinson, Homestead (Fla.) South Dade C.J. Worton

What FSU looks for at the WR position:

* Sure-hands – Nothing will send you to the bench quicker at Florida State than drops. With the amount of depth at FSU, drops by the wide receivers are not tolerated.

* Competitors – The wide receiver corp at FSU is never lacking for talent. Because of that competition is high and nothing is given, everything within this unit must be earned. The FSU coaches look for guys that want to f!ght for their position on the roster rather than have it handed to them.

* Size – In the 2014 class FSU is going to focus more on outside receivers rather than slot. The remaining spots will be used on prospects that have ideal outside receiver size or guys that could play both in the slot and out wide.

Names to keep an eye on:

WR Artavis Scott (5-10,175) Tarpon Springs, Fla. – Although Scott doesn’t have the ideal size to play on the outside, his skill set is such that he can play both the slot or out wide if needed. Scott camped at FSU last summer. The ‘Noles are among his favorites along with Michigan, Notre Dame, Georgia, Miami, Ohio State and Alabama.

WR Ermon Lane (6-3, 193) Homestead, Fla. – Lane starts the 2014 cycle as the top rated wide receiver in the country. His combination of size and speed is just what FSU is looking for this year. Miami is the team to beat right now with Florida State and Alabama also in the mix.

WR Saeed Blacknall (6-2, 190) Englishtown, NJ – If FSU leaves the state for a wide receiver it could be for Blacknall. He’s got the size and the explosion FSU looks for at this position. The ‘Noles have not offered yet, but he is on the radar.
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Latest on FSU-Pitt season opener

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One ACC source told me a Pitt-FSU season opener is "highly likely." Love it. Can't wait to see the official sked. Should be soon.
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The latest on 2014 OL Jermaine Eluemunor

Spoke to Scranton (PA) Lackawanna College offensive tackle Jermaine Eluemunor for a few minutes this morning and he told me that his film is updated on HUDL. Although it says "September 2012", it's not correct. Those are from his first full season at Lackawanna.

He said that he has offers from Florida State, West Virginia and UCLA at the moment. Some of his old offers were from when everyone thought he was a 2013 recruit, but that transcript issue came up. He's not sure if the others are still offering him now. He will graduate in December and early enroll at the school of his choice in January.

He was being recruited by James Coley when he was at Florida State, but says he hasn't heard from FSU lately. He still has a great deal of interest in Florida State and thinks they will be calling soon, now that Signing Day is done for 2013.
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FSU offers another prospect from Tennessee

Memphis (Tenn.) White Station three-star inside linebacker Petera Wilson reports a new offer from Florida State.
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Recruiting picks up for McGary

Battle Ground (Wash.) Fife jumbo athlete Kaleb McGary has quietly put up a solid offer list. The 6-foot-7, 270-pound prep has added a new offer from Cal recently.

This past weekend he spent time in Seattle on campus at the University of Washington. McGary said he spent the bulk of his time with the defensive group.

"There were probably 200 kids or more there at Washington so it was kind of crazy," McGary said. "They broke us down into smaller groups by position and I went with coach (Tosh) Lupoi. I enjoyed the presentation and stuff quite a bit. Washington is a nice camps and a big school."

Most of his offers have come by way of offensive lineman. McGary said while he loves to play defense, he's happy to play where needed.

"I love defense to be completely honest," he said. "But if a school is recruiting me at offense that is cool too. That won't effect me. Winning is all that I'm interested in. I'll do whatever it takes to help my team win."

FSU, Ole Miss and Nebraska are a few new programs that have burst onto the radar for McGary. He noted he'd like to hear more from Notre Dame, Stanford and the SEC as his recruitment continues.

"I'm just taking it easy and letting the schools come to me. I'm in no rush and not really focused on recruiting too much at this time. I'd like to get down to Oregon and Oregon State soon, maybe over to Washington State too."
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