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 12-27-2012, 12:48 PM         #181
Cheeze 
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 r.burgundy said:
its all tha same money that funds these projects.i mean if u follow rap,his statement shouldnt even need clarification.but for u,im sure they will


Peace to all,

With all do respect to you all, Nas is NOBODY’s slave. This is not the 1800′s, respect me and I will respect you.
I won’t even tap dance around in an email, I will get right into it. People connect to the Artist @ the end of the day, they don’t connect with the executives. Honestly, nobody even cares what label puts out a great record, they care about who recorded it. Yet time and time again its the executives who always stand in the way of a creative artist’s dream and aspirations. You don’t help draw the truth from my deepest and most inner soul, you don’t even do a great job @ selling it. The #1 problem with DEF JAM is pretty simple and obvious, the executives think they are the stars. You aren’t…. not even close.





Lupe on “The Show Goes On”:

“I was specifically told” — Fiasco chuckled — “‘Don’t rap too deep on this record.’” He laughed some more. “That was a specific order from the top.


do u need more proof?
Your ignorance is glaring

I see my comments are affecting you cause you have to throw slick jabs at me like I'm not as intelligent as you but if you believe that society makes you buy expensive shoes and doesn't allow people to make progressive, uplifting, intelligent music then you're as brainwashed as your friends who buy shoes because "society" markets it to them and apparently they just can't help themselves. Quite sad honestly.

Never did I say music creativity ISN'T hindered. I said both of you tried to act like the ONLY popular music made is that which is degrading your culture. It's not true. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Of course companies are going to want something that's going to SELL. That's the whole point of putting out a product. Why would you be in a business if not to make a profit? Your lack of comprehension is un-settlng at this point.

I'm sure you'll pick and choose what to reply to


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 5 years ago '04        #182
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The film takes places in the south during slavery; what would you suppose they called black people then? Wouldn't it be awkward if the word was avoided? I guess all the music I listen to has desensitized my reaction to the word.
 5 years ago '06        #183
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 Scouser said:
as well as the dismissive white racists
What do you mean by dismissive? Like not caring about a fictional realistic script?
 5 years ago '05        #184
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 TheMindOf said:


n*ggas always wanna f!ght over this dumb sh*t (who can say "n*gga" and who can't)

But when it comes time to f!ght for some sh*t that really matter, suddenly everybody disappears. Or they waiting for somebody else to do it.

Most old black folks that I know, the n*ggas who actually been through some racial sh*t in this country, don't even use that word.

I saw an old black lady spazz on some young n*ggas in the gas station just last week over that sh*t.
These n*ggas think they're special , being pro black , and not doing sh*t for the community they claim to love. They'd call any black man making REAL progress , and setting precedents an uncle tom , but black a.ss can't even recognize all they do is BLAME the white man , and attack their own kind , thats' backwards as fu*k. 50 cent gives to africa , he does it for fame. Rapper gives money , its' for publicity , w/e it is , all these n*ggas do is talk sh*t to their own alleged people. They aint nothin like the black figures they praise , cause they weren't pus*y and all talk.

Aint no one comin down and bout to end racial tension , if white ppl wanna call you a ****** , fu*k ya'll gonna do but complain. Think white ppl give a fu*k? Quentin prolly tryin to figure words to rhyme with n*gga right now , have fun, all you black muthafu*kas is doin is talkin , pus*y a.ss n*ggas , if you mad do somethin fu*k n*ggas.

but its more important sh*t for "us" to worry about and do , ya'll just the loser n*ggas who aint gonna be sh*t cause you worry an talk about dumb sh*t.
 5 years ago '07        #185
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 Cheeze said:
Your ignorance is glaring

I see my comments are affecting you cause you have to throw slick jabs at me like I'm not as intelligent as you but if you believe that society makes you buy expensive shoes and doesn't allow people to make progressive, uplifting, intelligent music then you're as brainwashed as your friends who buy shoes because "society" markets it to them and apparently they just can't help themselves. Quite sad honestly.

Never did I say music creativity ISN'T hindered. I said both of you tried to act like the ONLY music made is that which is degrading your culture. You and the other guy implied the only popular music is one which degrades your race and community. It's not true. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Of course companies are going to want something that's going to SELL. That's the whole point of putting out a product. Why would you be in a business if not to make a profit? Your lack of comprehension is un-settlng at this point.
whats sad is your inability to have an honest discussion on race.if u say your intelligent and listen to rap,then u should know good well what type of music is promoted.stop tryin to argue,and learn to discuss.we may have dif opinions but im not your enemy.not anywhere did i mention shoes,so discuss that wit whom brought it up

nobody said thats tha only music thats made.we both said thats tha only music thats pushed.and i gave u statements from top artists sayin tha type of music that execs want made

nothing wrong wit makin a profit.it just so happens that tha profit comes at tha expense of black people.are u tryin to imply media doesnt influence life?
 5 years ago '08        #186
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It doesnt matter to me. But Silverman is a racist so I'm sure she'd defend the use of the word no matter what context it is used.
 5 years ago '06        #187
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 Scouser said:
Racism is more than just a movie
Keep up with the thread - we have gone pass that
That's the problem. Any like topic and people get to crying, and not just black people, white people Are in here trying to defend something someone did way before we were alive

You can't be a master of your future, if you a slave of the past

I live by this. I'm not worried about what my dad or mom did, or grandma an Pa, I'm just trying to get it till life's gone

Some of the comment on here Smdh.... Do people want change or do they just want to hate??

If you
 5 years ago '06        #188
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 Cantankerous said:
These n*ggas think they're special , being pro black , and not doing sh*t for the community they claim to love. They'd call any black man making REAL progress , and setting precedents an uncle tom , but black a.ss can't even recognize all they do is BLAME the white man , and attack their own kind , thats' backwards as fu*k. 50 cent gives to africa , he does it for fame. Rapper gives money , its' for publicity , w/e it is , all these n*ggas do is talk sh*t to their own alleged people. They aint nothin like the black figures they praise , cause they weren't pus*y and all talk.

Aint no one comin down and bout to end racial tension , if white ppl wanna call you a ****** , fu*k ya'll gonna do but complain. Think white ppl give a fu*k? Quentin prolly tryin to figure words to rhyme with n*gga right now , have fun, all you black muthafu*kas is doin is talkin , pus*y a.ss n*ggas , if you mad do somethin fu*k n*ggas.

but its more important sh*t for "us" to worry about and do , ya'll just the loser n*ggas who aint gonna be sh*t cause you worry an talk about dumb sh*t.
Omg is that simple logic??? Holy sh*t I'll be damn, a good opinion on bx.

I agree 100 percent, no ones going to make you feel better, it's all about the next move and not the last.

Im white, but I grew up broke, and yuppies don't like me. The classes of people hate who's below, white black or Mexican it don't matter. It's about money in America not race
 5 years ago '06        #189
TreZ 3 heat pts
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U n*gga
 5 years ago '06        #190
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I loved the authenticity of the movie. Don't sit there watching a movie that you're going to get offedned about just like I won't sit there and watch do the right thing and look to get offended by the way whites are portrayed. It's art like she said, and it's historically accurate. These are slaves that are in the movie, and if Jamie Foxx agreed to it, he's obviously aware of the reason behind the use of the word.
 5 years ago '06        #191
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 Scouser said:
One succesful black man trying to tear a more succesful black man down

Im sure the racists love it when someone else does their job for them
 5 years ago '06        #192
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 Scouser said:
Well i think what the Blacks in this thread are trying to tell you is the present conditions of the past still affect them today. Blacks may go into a dept store and be more closely watched because in the 'past' blacks had a reputation of stealing from the white slave master.

Young Trayvon, may get shot today walking in an all white neighborhood, because in the past there have been home invasions by young black males

you get the idea right?
I dont think blacks are in a weep-fest or pity-pot here and are just complaining
I think they are trying to express that Racism is still something they deal with everyday
Profiling happened when something occurs over and over. White people like mayo, sh*t don't change. Mexicans sneek in the country , and we check for green cards on border states. You sure black ain't getting profiled when THINGS the do frequently in today's society ???

All these white guys shooting schools and movies up, what do I do? Blame it on the people in change, or the idiots that do the damn crime . If tey change the gun laws it's RASICT, it's just a law to help the majority. There's ways to stay out of profiling and trouble, some people want it both ways tho


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 5 years ago '04        #193
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Man fu*k all the bullsh*t...somebody call Ja Rule!
 5 years ago '07        #194
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 Cantankerous said:
ya'll ignorant n*ggas is fu*kin sh*t up for the good black ppl , we move further , u stupid n*ggas keep bring up old sh*t , n*ggas wanna cry over a fu*kin word, our ancestors would think ya'll n*ggas straight pus*y , go f!ght for better education stupid muthafu*kas
are you really going to end that so well written speech with telling others about education


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 5 years ago '06        #195
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 Scouser said:
Here is the difference.
Racism is prejudice plus power. All Races can be Prejudice, but only Whites have the Power to be Racist.

example -

I may not like people wearing baggy clothes, i may think your a criminal if you dress like that.
I dont have the power though to make you change your attire when you enter into a store
Whites on the other hand - have the Power to use their Prejudices and ban Baggy Clothing worn in the mall - this is Racism. Racism is setting the status quo...

Racism is saying that most black males with dreads or braids start f!ghts in this place
So - its a new rule - No one Can come with Braids or Dreadlocks

that my friend is the difference between Racism and just plain ol' prejudice
Gimme some examples cuz it sounds like a crock of sh*t. No dreads? I get the baggy clothes if people steal a lot. I just see businesses protecting themselves if you don't have some proof

I go to some bars that won't let you in of you wear hoodies and some hats cuz they don't want people to hide anything, but what race give you the right to wear and do whatever and not be judged. Some cultures don't believe and in clothes and shoes, so if they can't go into places is that Rasicm??
 12-27-2012, 02:04 PM         #196
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 datVAkid said:
no you wouldnt

and you just dont understand and white people cant understand not understanding something

also there is a difference between to, too, two... same sound but one letter changes the whole meaning

They, their, there... same thing

a letter can mean alot... just like how hi and his are two different words with two different meaning one letter difference...
your missing the point.. its funny though. people dance around the question while they tell me im white and dont understand. i understand that the word was givin by slave owners. why would you even call yourselves that? in any form. its mind boggling.

i can understand if black people wanted to adopt such a hatefull word and make it there own, but still you abuse it. say it twice every sentence and expect white people to never mutter the word. i mean think ABOUT IT.
 5 years ago '06        #197
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 Menelek said:
That was powerful right there.

Sarah loves to use the n word in her stand ups and not in a funny way. So hearing that from her is like whatever.

I dont think Spike is being a hater hes an outspoken black man stating his opinion.
He's an accomplished film maker he doesnt have to hate on anybody

I actually enjoy Tarantino movies but I dont know what makes this dude tic and spike is right in pointing out that he loves to use that word in his movies.

Why I dont Know. I think its a part of his personality and taste in movie making rather than him being racist.

Sarah did have a point about having no restrictions in art.
I use the N word in my raps but I make an effort not to use it excessively nor do i like music that relies heavy on vulgarities.

So I agree with that in principle but coming from her its a fu*king joke.

She thinks being offensive is art or finds pleasure in being indecent and is usually not funny at all just offensive.

And when White people do what she does in the name of art or whatever it just reminds of how I use to look at ALL white people as racist motherfukers.

No matter how cool I am with a white person or how open-minded I get thats always in the back of my mind because I have dealt with racism all my life.

Thats real talk. And some of these white people should think about that before they open they mouth and choose to be so liberal with their tongue or worse call black people racists for defending themselves when speaking on matters of race.
definitely.. I respect this perspective... big time..
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 Scouser said:
Who wears hoodies and baggy jeans? What males more than likely have dreads and braided hair?....When they say 'Urban' its a nice way of saying black

I dont think your missing what i am saying here.....
Whites have the power to combine their prejudices to make into a law
from everything to education, bar hopping, and the Constitution
Name one place that bands dreads? Hoodies and baggy jeans are wore by everyone buddy it's not a black thing lol.they got banned bc people hide their face and makes it easier to find sh*t like guns. So you don't have one example, just that whites outlaw things that black people like and do ?? I get more your going Im just not a believer. I have to see what your talking about

In my city one school has metal detectors and it's not the black one. It's the majority Mexican one. Those mofos get into a f!ght and someone's getting stabbed and everyone knows it. It makes it completely safer to figure and target searches to people that look gang related. That's pretty much a smaller version of the way the laws are mad. sh*t happens, government sits back till its a problem and figure out how to aviod it in the future.
 12-27-2012, 02:32 PM         #199
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This fu*king thread

I agree with her 100% and Spike was wrong for criticizing. I bet if the director was black he would be OK with it, which is wrong. That's racist IMO
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I don't know where the argument comes from that you can't make fun of Jews
or show them in a bad light. Jewish stereotypes are a cornerstone of comedy
and even Sarah Silverman makes fun of her Jewishness all the time.

Spike even had his own controversy about his portrayal of Jews in Mo Betta Blues.

You can even use Spikes argument about his movie for QT and Django.

"Don't hold me to a higher moral standard than the rest of my filmmaking colleagues. I think
it's reaching the point where I'm getting reviewed, not my films. I stand behind all my work,
including my characters, Moe and Josh Flatbush... if critics are telling me that to avoid charges
of anti-Semitism, all Jewish characters I write have to be model citizens, and not one can be
a villain, cheat or a crook, and that no Jewish people have ever exploited black artists in the
history of the entertainment industry, that's unrealistic and unfair."



If Spike feels he can write characters of any ethnicity anyway he wants, he should
give the same respect to other filmmakers, and not hold them to a higher standard
than he holds himself.
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