Can we discuss Jay-Z subliminal disses?? *shots fired*

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 4 years ago '04        #41
Bedewe22 1 heat pts
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 Dat 1 Dude said:
Mase hadn't been rapping for years when that dropped though..

Edit: after reading through the whole thread, everyone has mentioned all of his obvious subliminals, so I'll put out one that wasn't quite as obvious.
Blueprint 2"

I've been real all my life, they confuse it with deceit
And since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There's a valuable lesson learned so it evens it up for me
When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
For saving me the hassle of speaking to half of these as*holes"

These bars were at Irv and murder Inc. This was towards the end of the battle him and Nas, when "The Pledge" dropped and all that speculation that Nas was getting ready to sign with murder Inc. This song dropped and murder Inc started clearing up rumors that Nas was signing. That whole lil scene went over a lot of folks' head for some reason.
I don't know, man.

"I've been real all my life, they confuse it with deceit
And since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat"

I always thought he was responding to the people declaring Nas the winner of the battle in the Hot 97 poll.


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Those last few bars could be directed at murder Inc and others though.
 07-07-2013, 11:06 AM         #42
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If Jay really meant these subliminals he's a bi*ch a.ss. If he didn't Y'all are some weirdos who should focus that energy on something else
 4 years ago '08        #43
cohs 6 heat pts
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 deLeet said:
You slow bruh?

The fu*k you think people are doing in this thread....
lol if you referring to my spelling .. maybe

if not, not so much.

that blanket statement dont work in all situations. i was mainly thinkin bout the irv and dmx situation. if its true he was being salty because someone liked a verse better than his and he wanna throw a shot. then man up and actually say something. if not take your L and your check and go home.
 4 years ago '11        #44
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 Lil Biz said:


wayne diss
Rap music is something ain't it? The way these pictures is painted
You swear these n*ggas is dangerous, the gangsta sh*t they be saying
Lock em up in the booth with a half ounce of that cannabis
Sit back, and watch the outlandish sh*t they portraying
But, soon as you see em they freeze up like in museums
Them statues, you like, "Is that the dude, that said he was gonna... (pmmm!)"
n*ggas get running before you finish ya sentence
And then they back to riffing, when they off at the safe distance
You like, you was just here, you disappear like magicians
In thin air, I'm like damn, n*gga at least keep it consistent
I hear you baiting me lately, I been doing my best just to stay hater free
Still watch what you say to me
Sooner or later I take you up on your offer
And put you all in ya place like I'm replacing ya father
You talking, to the author, the architect of The Blueprint
My DNA in ya music, muthafu*ka you stupid?
 4 years ago '04        #45
Raziel 4 heat pts
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he told us

do ya'll listen to music or do skim through it...
 4 years ago '11        #46
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 Carlton Black said:
he'll never go at n*ggas directly again....ether changed him....
thats kind of true...this along wit the "it doesnt go both ways" thing about how someone can say Jay's name, but Jay cant say their name because it helps them out too much..

he's out her silently putting these nigggas out of their misery.
 4 years ago '11        #47
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missing a TON of sublimes in here. I'll comeback later
 07-08-2013, 01:45 AM         #48
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 case sensitive said:
thats kind of true...this along wit the "it doesnt go both ways" thing about how someone can say Jay's name, but Jay cant say their name because it helps them out too much..

he's out her silently putting these nigggas out of their misery.
he aint putin nobody out of their misery you fu*king stan
 4 years ago '04        #49
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Him and Joe Budden been going at it subliminally since the whole "blackball" sh*t. I find it entertaining it's all in the spirit of competition and means the MC has to actually think and use his brain to craft a line that is a shot that you have to decipher, it shows actual talent imo. Plus it's chess, rappers know they got sh*t to lose but know the other rapper hears that sh*t... It's probably their way of battling without having to battle cos fans can't take this sh*t as a sport anymore

We applaud metaphors for being creative because we have to decipher them but want our disses spelled out in laymens... I like a good all out battle but not every war is fought in the trenches...


And I always thought Budden's reply to Jay's Reminder line "tell them ordinary Joes button up" was "They don't need a reminder if they never forgot" on one of those 2010 miscellaneous tracks he dropped I forgot what it's called
 4 years ago '04        #50
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"Ya'll respect the one that got shot, I respect the shooter" - An obvious 50 cent diss from kingdom come

"I know a lot people prolly thought I fall without ol buddy, but oh buddy what i do is make more money" An obvious Dame Dash Diss from "So Ambitious" from the Blueprint 3
 4 years ago '08        #51
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 ctown33 said:
"Ya'll respect the one that got shot, I respect the shooter" - An obvious 50 cent diss from kingdom come

"I know a lot people prolly thought I fall without ol buddy, but oh buddy what i do is make more money" An obvious Dame Dash Diss from "So Ambitious" from the Blueprint 3
how is he dissing dame? more like he talkin sh*t to 'a lot of people'
 4 years ago '04        #52
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 cohs said:
how is he dissing dame? more like he talkin sh*t to 'a lot of people'
Lol my dude its obvious he's speaking to an individual and who else would it be besides dame, as in who he rose to power with, i doubt he was talking about bigs
 4 years ago '04        #53
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 cohs said:
how is he dissing dame? more like he talkin sh*t to 'a lot of people'
Even rap genius speculates he was either talking bout dame or Jaz O
 4 years ago '11        #54
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 YI-Drizzy said:
he aint putin nobody out of their misery you fu*king stan
you're mad as hell right now like i said he k!lled your favorite rapper...im not saying he did this to every n*gga...but cats like Meano...Foxy...even Wayne to a degree...he sh*ts on them heavily and aint sh*t they can do about it.
 4 years ago '08        #55
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 ctown33 said:
Even rap genius speculates he was either talking bout dame or Jaz O
so.. im sayin how is it a diss to say i did it without you. that say somethin bad bout them, or good bout jay


guess you could see it either way, just dont seem as 'negative' as i think a diss would be


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 4 years ago '11        #56
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 4 years ago '10        #57
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The first thing I think of anytime somebody brings up Jay-Z & sub disses:


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 4 years ago '11        #58
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 CartelFamill said:
Jayz is the King of Subliminal Disses....n*gga has dissed damn near every rapper in existence....Its competive spirit....He's dissed n*ggas on the SAME SONG THEY WAS ON TOGETHER...He's Dissed bi*ches,Exec's lol

Him and Nas was throwing sub's at each other FOR YEARS before Takeover Ether came out


LL Cool J
Big Pun
Fat Joe
Joe Budden
The Game
Meeno
Mase
Camron
2pac
Mobb Deep
Raekwon
Lil Wayne
Beanie Sigel
Gillie Da Kid
The Lox
Dmx
Ja Rule
 4 years ago '13        #59
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Don't forget all the subs Jay throws at his POOR fans. Thats a list that would take up a entire thread. Jay throws subs at everybody. His fans, blue blood white power structure, other rappers etc.. The man gives no fu*ks. How his fans stomach the disrespect is beyond me.
 4 years ago '13        #60
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 pootytangsbelt said:
This entire thread is a waste of time (and therefore money) because jay was BODIED not once but twice.

Ether first then The One True God k!lla Cam with the true King Of New York Max B aka The Silver Surfer took jigga's lunch money.




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