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 5 years ago '06        #21
hood135 2 heat pts
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 Kastanova said:
Lets end this speculation right now:

Offensively

Bynum>>>Dwight

easily

Defensively

Dwight>>>Bynum

easily

IMPACT on the overall game?!

Dwight>>>Bynum

REAL EASILY!!!!!!!
^This....Don't know why this is so hard to gather.
 5 years ago '12        #22
Kastanova 91 heat pts91
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And to further go on with the point of my post

You take Dwight and put him on the worst defensive team in the league like the Wizards for example. They will become top 5 in the league just based off Dwight alone.

You can't say the same about Bynum.
 5 years ago '08        #23
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 hood135 said:
You're smoking crack. Pau and Andrew are more skilled offensively buts that's about it. More skilled doesn't necessarily mean better by the way. They all p!ss on opponents when they try to guard one on one regardless of how they get their buckets.

The truth is that Andrew and Pau couldn't co-exist anymore because both demanded the block. Sort of like what we're seeing with Pau and DWight. Not only that, Andrew was already a risk with the past injuries. At that size, it was only a matter of time before he started breaking down physically.

The Lakers did right. DWight at 100% is a 20 ppg, 15 rpg, and 4 bpg guy. I'm a big Andrew Bynum fan but he can fall back with that talking from the sideline sh*t. We need to see him healthy and carrying the Sixers first.



Bynum > Dwight

Yeah Dwight is a 20 ppg guy on Orlando. He's not a 20 pgg guy with Kobe "ball hog" Bryant on his team.
 5 years ago '07        #24
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dwight has inherited some of bynums traits. The lack of touches has made him disinterested in playing defense which is his strong point. I've never seen him give up so many points in the paint like he has this season.

What's funny is he'll never be the man of this team. After kobe retires they're just gonna find another 20+ppg scorer to take over the offense. Dwight can't play in a system that isn't built around him.
 5 years ago '06        #25
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he aint lying..

that overrated crying f*g, what would d12 be with out this dunk contest?
 5 years ago '12        #26
Kastanova 91 heat pts91
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 o7media said:


Bynum > Dwight

Yeah Dwight is a 20 ppg guy on Orlando. He's not a 20 pgg guy with Kobe "ball hog" Bryant on his team.
Kobe doesn't pass yet he's number 3 in a.ssists on the SG list this season, though he leads all SG's with a.ssists of 124 so far this season, with 5APG, while Harden comes in 2nd with 117 and 5.3APG



Dwight gets the second most touches on the team.

Kobe tries to get Dwight started early, but when Dwight gets the ball he doesn't know what to do.

You really don't believe Bynum over Dwight nor does Morey.

Why else do you think Morey was willing to give half the Rockets AND MAD PICKS just to get Dwight



Dwight>>>Bynum
 5 years ago '06        #27
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 o7media said:


Bynum > Dwight

Yeah Dwight is a 20 ppg guy on Orlando. He's not a 20 pgg guy with Kobe "ball hog" Bryant on his team.


Like I said, he's that when he's 100% healthy. And he touches it just as much as he did in Orlando. Their best years, he was surrounded by shooters which gave him room to operate. He doesn't have that now. Hell he doesn't even have a PG now.

That ain't Kobe, that's just basketball.
 5 years ago '08        #28
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 Kastanova said:
Kobe doesn't pass yet he's number 3 in a.ssists on the SG list this season, though he leads all SG's with a.ssists of 124 so far this season, with 5APG, while Harden comes in 2nd with 117 and 5.3APG



Dwight gets the second most touches on the team.

Kobe tries to get Dwight started early, but when Dwight gets the ball he doesn't know what to do.

You really don't believe Bynum over Dwight nor does Morey.

Why else do you think Morey was willing to give half the Rockets AND MAD PICKS just to get Dwight



Dwight>>>Bynum

So you're saying Kobe isn't a ball hog because he's #3 in a.ssists for SG's?


Laker fans are so delusional. So the fact that probably 90% of his a.ssists come from alley oops doesn't make a difference. But you're going to compare Kobe to Harden because he has no other all stars to get a.ssists from..... while Kobe has Dwight, Gasol, Artest, and Jamison. I won't count Nash since he's been injured for most of the season.


Yeah ok makes sense


And Morey is a dumb fu*k. No surprises there.

Only Laker fans in here are actually defending Dwight saying he's better than Bynum. Obviously biased.

At least wait til the Lakers get over .500 before making an argument
 5 years ago '11        #29
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Bynum is an idiot. The difference between Howard and Bynum is not just in the offensive side. Dwight is a real defensive prescence. Bynum didn't do sh*t in the playoffs and he is injury prone
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 JamcnPrettyboy said:
dwight has inherited some of bynums traits. The lack of touches has made him disinterested in playing defense which is his strong point. I've never seen him give up so many points in the paint like he has this season.

What's funny is he'll never be the man of this team. After kobe retires they're just gonna find another 20+ppg scorer to take over the offense. Dwight can't play in a system that isn't built around him.
He touches it damn near every time down. Its the way that teams are guarding him that is effecting his game (the sagging and the doubles). I agree that he needs a team built around him but that's usually what you do when you have a franchise guy.

I think his lack of aggression on D comes from him trying to stay healthy as well. DWight is not a fool. He won't risk it all until he's signed that "we made it" contract after the season.
 5 years ago '08        #31
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 hood135 said:


Like I said, he's that when he's 100% healthy. And he touches it just as much as he did in Orlando. Their best years, he was surrounded by shooters which gave him room to operate. He doesn't have that now. Hell he doesn't even have a PG now.

That ain't Kobe, that's just basketball.

But he won't touch it as much as he was in Orlando...that's the whole point. You simply can't have a team with this many stars and expect Dwight to get as many touches as he did when he was the #1 option. He's not anymore.


He never had a PG in Orlando either....
 5 years ago '08        #32
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 royman04 said:
Bynum is an idiot. The difference between Howard and Bynum is not just in the offensive side. Dwight is a real defensive prescence. Bynum didn't do sh*t in the playoffs and he is injury prone

Yes that is true. Bynum was a dumb a.ss. Last season he didn't give a fu*k. That was his problem.

But talent wise Bynum > Dwight
 5 years ago '12        #33
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 o7media said:
So you're saying Kobe isn't a ball hog because he's #3 in a.ssists for SG's?


Laker fans are so delusional. So the fact that probably 90% of his a.ssists come from alley oops doesn't make a difference. But you're going to compare Kobe to Harden because he has no other all stars to get a.ssists from..... while Kobe has Dwight, Gasol, Artest, and Jamison. I won't count Nash since he's been injured for most of the season.


Yeah ok makes sense


And Morey is a dumb fu*k. No surprises there.

Only Laker fans in here are actually defending Dwight saying he's better than Bynum. Obviously biased.

At least wait til the Lakers get over .500 before making an argument
Besides offense what does Bynum do better than Dwight?

Answer that question honestly.

Because if Bynum was a franchise star or first option on a team (Funny he was supposed to be with 76er's) he would never have got his team to the Finals let alone ECF.

Dwight's been to the ECF two years in a row.... Bynum could NEVER DO THAT.

How are Laker fans delusional (well I know most of them are) when we've WATCHED Bynum and he gives up after the first quarter.

Dwight touches the ball on almost every possession.

He passes it out a-lot and doesn't always look to score....aka nvm

not gonna explain it to a bias Kobe and Laker hater

 5 years ago '06        #34
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 o7media said:
But he won't touch it as much as he was in Orlando...that's the whole point. You simply can't have a team with this many stars and expect Dwight to get as many touches as he did when he was the #1 option. He's not anymore.


He never had a PG in Orlando either....
You're saying he won't when he does and he will so you have no point. Its the way that teams are guarding him that's changed.

We've only seen the Lakers with all they're "stars" on the floor together a couple times and he got plenty of touches. Pau is a willing passer, almost to a fault. Kobe is smart enough to get him involved early and often plus he dimes him whenever he gets the chance. Steve Nash, need I say more?

Basketball is played inside out and all of these 'pros' and 'experts' know that you feed your horse as often as possible. Nobody in LA, including Kobe, has a problem with that.
 5 years ago '08        #35
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 Kastanova said:
Besides offense what does Bynum do better than Dwight?

Answer that question honestly.

Because if Bynum was a franchise star or first option on a team (Funny he was supposed to be with 76er's) he would never have got his team to the Finals let alone ECF.

Dwight's been to the ECF two years in a row.... Bynum could NEVER DO THAT.

How are Laker fans delusional (well I know most of them are) when we've WATCHED Bynum and he gives up after the first quarter.

Dwight touches the ball on almost every possession.

He passes it out a-lot and doesn't always look to score....aka nvm

not gonna explain it to a bias Kobe and Laker hater


Besides offense? You're taking out the majority of the game there. Dwight is no where close to what Bynum can do on the offensive end.

Bynum is just as good as a defender as Dwight is. Maybe Dwight has a slight edge, but it's not like Bynum was a.ss at defense. Look at their career stats.

You don't have to explain anything. The Lakers are a.ss and that's a fact.

You can blame the coaches, you can blame injuries, you can put the blame on whatever you want...won't change the fact that Kobe is a ball hog. When Kobe scores less the Lakers have a positive winning %. That's a fact. Not an opinion.


 hood135 said:
You're saying he won't when he does and he will so you have no point. Its the way that teams are guarding him that's changed.

We've only seen the Lakers with all they're "stars" on the floor together a couple times and he got plenty of touches. Pau is a willing passer, almost to a fault. Kobe is smart enough to get him involved early and often plus he dimes him whenever he gets the chance. Steve Nash, need I say more?

Basketball is played inside out and all of these 'pros' and 'experts' know that you feed your horse as often as possible. Nobody in LA, including Kobe, has a problem with that.

Yes he has clearly proven that so far.
 5 years ago '11        #36
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 o7media said:


Bynum > Dwight

Yeah Dwight is a 20 ppg guy on Orlando. He's not a 20 pgg guy with Kobe "ball hog" Bryant on his team.
He's averaging 18.2 PPG this season with Kobe. The only thing stopping him from being at 20 is his FT shooting

 5 years ago '12        #37
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 o7media said:
Besides offense? You're taking out the majority of the game there. Dwight is no where close to what Bynum can do on the offensive end.

Bynum is just as good as a defender as Dwight is. Maybe Dwight has a slight edge, but it's not like Bynum was a.ss at defense. Look at their career stats.

You don't have to explain anything. The Lakers are a.ss and that's a fact.

You can blame the coaches, you can blame injuries, you can put the blame on whatever you want...won't change the fact that Kobe is a ball hog. When Kobe scores less the Lakers have a positive winning %. That's a fact. Not an opinion.





Yes he has clearly proven that so far.
Bynum is just as good as a defender as Dwight?!

GTFOH!

How come he's never been in the running for DPOY? Or better yet made any defensive teams in the league? Because Bynum is a.ss on the defensive end.

Bynum has the Steve Nash effect when it comes to Centers.

With how much points Bynum scores, his match up or speedy PG's will come to the paint at ease and score. Bynum doesn't care about defense really as much as he cares about scoring.

When he knew he was in the running for most blocks in a playoff game he tried to get nearly every block that he could at that point. He never played defense after Game 1 vs the Nuggets 2012.

Career stats don't always tell the tale of how good a defender someone is, actually watching the game does and not being a box-score warrior.

AI is praised on here but no one really talks about how much he chucks. But their quick to say how Kobe/Rose/Westbrook does and etc.

The Lakers are still trying to find a identity for themselves. The team has only played 1 1/2 game together but not fully healthy.

But going back to Bynum

he doesn't have the same effect as Dwight presents in a game.
 5 years ago '08        #38
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 Kastanova said:
Bynum is just as good as a defender as Dwight?!

GTFOH!

How come he's never been in the running for DPOY? Or better yet made any defensive teams in the league? Because Bynum is a.ss on the defensive end.

Bynum has the Steve Nash effect when it comes to Centers.

With how much points Bynum scores, his match up or speedy PG's will come to the paint at ease and score. Bynum doesn't care about defense really as much as he cares about scoring.

When he knew he was in the running for most blocks in a playoff game he tried to get nearly every block that he could at that point. He never played defense after Game 1 vs the Nuggets 2012.

Career stats don't always tell the tale of how good a defender someone is, actually watching the game does and not being a box-score warrior.

AI is praised on here but no one really talks about how much he chucks. But their quick to say how Kobe/Rose/Westbrook does and etc.

The Lakers are still trying to find a identity for themselves. The team has only played 1 1/2 game together but not fully healthy.

But going back to Bynum

he doesn't have the same effect as Dwight presents in a game.


Bynum is not bad at defense. I said Dwight has a edge, but Bynum was a good defender. Not the best, but he was solid.

And Bynum's offense is 100x better than Dwight's. When you look at them overall Bynum is much better than Dwight.

And smh at this excuse. The team has only played 1 1/2 games together. And? You do realize the Rockets have the most new players on the team right? The Rockets got Harden like 2 days before the season started and they have a better record than the Lakers with no all stars on the team.

First year Boston got their big 3 they won a ring. Miami went to the Finals first year with their big 3. But the Lakers are sitting here with one of the worst records in the west...

GTFOH with the bs excuses. NO excuse for having this much talent on a team and being below .500.
 5 years ago '06        #39
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 o7media said:
Bynum is not bad at defense. I said Dwight has a edge, but Bynum was a good defender. Not the best, but he was solid.

And Bynum's offense is 100x better than Dwight's. When you look at them overall Bynum is much better than Dwight.

And smh at this excuse. The team has only played 1 1/2 games together. And? You do realize the Rockets have the most new players on the team right? The Rockets got Harden like 2 days before the season started and they have a better record than the Lakers with no all stars on the team.

First year Boston got their big 3 they won a ring. Miami went to the Finals first year with their big 3. But the Lakers are sitting here with one of the worst records in the west...

GTFOH with the bs excuses. NO excuse for having this much talent on a team and being below .500.
Prove it or stop talking out of your a.ss. Same discussion BXSC had about Brooke as well. More skilled doesn't translate to better. And how the fu*k does anyone believe that Andrew is even in the same stratosphere as DWight defensively?
 5 years ago '08        #40
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 Dun Language said:
First page....


And he's right they downgraded


Even Pau is a better center than Dwight


people forget we had the best record 2 seasons in a row with pau playing center up until late in the season when bynum returned
Bruh Dwight Howard aint healthy still

Pau bi*ched out the first year he got to LA...then played like he was supposed to and won 2 rings...since then, been same ole bi*ch made Pau in the Post. Dwight pulled a bi*ch move to get outta Orlando by having the surgery...that was his play, but gimmie the Dwight b4 the Surgery all day everyday over Pau and Bynum
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