Official Monday Night Football/Game of the Week Game Thread: Houston Texans @ New England Patriots

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Official Monday Night Football/Game of the Week Game Thread: Houston Texans @ New England Patriots
 

 
Im on my ipad so i cant get pictures for all the 10 year olds who need them instead of reading like a grown man, i apologize. Just google image tom brady shirtless and you'll be fine.

Been waiting a while for this one, possible preview of the AFC Title game. 11-1 Texans leaving the perfect dome weather, hopefully it will be a cold night here. Should be a great game




In the AFC, Matt Schaub and the Texans pose the biggest threat to the Patriots. (AP)
Remember when the regular-season showdown between the Patriots and Colts was simply the first act of a two-part miniseries that everyone thought was ultimately going to be settled down the road? CBS cranked up the hype machine, national writers fell back on the default “good vs. evil” storylines and the Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning matchup made everyone’s heart skip a beat.

Well, Brady vs. Matt Schaub doesn’t have the same ring, and for that matter, it’s going to be awful tough to come up with broadly-drawn storylines to suit a matchup between Bill Belichick and Gary Kubiak. (“One runs up the score! The other ... once backed up John Elway!”) But this week’s game between the Patriots and Texans deserves the same level of pregame buzz as those old showdowns, because when it comes to the AFC this year, it’s New England and Houston, and everyone else is f!ghting for third.

Sunday will be the first meeting of the season between the two, and they’ll meet again in the AFC championship game in January. While neither team is perfect, they are simply the least flawed of the conference, and this year, that’s good enough to get them over. The reality of the situation is that at this point, the rest of the AFC is doing too much hoping and praying and keeping their fingers crossed when it comes to health and home-field advantage. Consider the rest of the inhabitants of the AFC’s high-rent district:

•The Steelers are resting their hopes on the shoulder of Charlie Batch -- who might have made his first start while wearing a leather helmet -- while Ben Roethlisberger tries to rehab as fast as possible. (There’s also the possibility they get passed by the Bengals, who are tied with them for second place in the AFC North as they head into the final quarter of the season.) They still have a stout defense, but last Sunday’s season-saving win over the Ravens aside, the feeling remains that if you get them outside of Heinz Field, they can be had. (They can finish no better than .500 on the road.)

•Meanwhile, this isn’t the same Ravens team that barely beat the Patriots in September. They’re awfully banged up -- they’re doing everything but having Ray Lewis sleep in a hyperbaric chamber in hopes of getting him healed up by Christmas. And Joe Flacco certainly isn’t causing sleepness nights for opposing defensive coordinators, particularly after throwing an interception against the Steelers that looked like something straight out of the Mark Sanchez catalog. (He finished 16-for-34 for 188 yards, one touchdown and one interception, all while being sacked three tines.)

•Meanwhile, the only team out West who inspires fear and loathing are the Broncos, who are on a seven-game win streak , but in the midst of a schedule that’s so pillowy soft you could sleep on it. (You would feel good about your teams’ chances too if their four remaining opponents had a combined winning percentage of .375, with just one team above .500. I’m not sure how the NFL dictionary definition of “false bravado,” but this might be it.)

That leaves the Patriots and Texans. Certainly, there’s a lot to like about Houston: They are a multiple offense that has different options when it comes to running and passing the ball. When you start trying to match up the teams head-to-head, New England us going to have the edge, but Schaub has very good numbers, as he’s gone 266-for-413 for 3,062 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions on the year. They also have a stud running back in Arian Foster (1,102 yards on 283 carries and 13 touchdowns) and an elite receiver in Andre Johnson (74 catches, 1,114 yards and three touchdowns).

One thing about the Houston offense, and the running game in particular -- it’s coming off a sluggish outing against the Titans. In that one, Foster had 38 yards on 14 carries, an average of 2.7 per carry. Justin Forsett had 64 yards on 14 carries, while Ben Tate added with three for 18 yards. And in the second half, Johnson didn’t have a catch, Schaub threw for 40 yards over the last two quarters and the Texans were 2-for-9 on third down.

Houston also has a steady and consistent defense -- the group has given up some big plays, but they’ve managed to do just enough to win games all year long. They also have defensive lineman J.J. Watt, who has swallowed opposing offenses whole over the course of the 2012 season. (Watt is the ultimate statistical anomaly -- he has 15.5 sacks and 15 passes defensed this season.) While there are some questions about the state of the Houston cornerbacks, more often than not the pass rush cancels out any problems they have had.


(In truth, there are some similarities between the Texans and the Patriots. For a team that’s 11-1, Houston really doesn't blow out a lot of their opponents. Like New England, the Texans have been accused of failing to build up the requisite style points against substandard opponents -- they’ve won overtime games against the Lions and Jags, and struggled to beat the Jets and Bills. But like Bill Belichick said on Sunday, “It’s not about stats, it’s about wins. That’s what we’re here for.”)

As for the 9-3 Patriots, they proved Sunday they don’t need a boatload of points -- or takeaways -- to beat you, coming away with a 23-16 win over the Dolphins that featured two touchdowns and one takeaway. After a slow start, New England has hit a nice stretch where its’ managed to put together six consecutive wins, thanks in large part to a world-class offense that is still at or near the top of the league in most major categories and a defense that continues to force takeaways at a tremendous clip. Quarterback Tom Brady (298-for-460, 3,537 yards, 25 TDs, 4 INTs) remains a difference maker, and even without Rob Gronkowski the last two weeks, he’s managed to nose his way into another MVP conversation. Stevan Ridley (225 carries, 1,010 yards, 9 TDs) has emerged as one of the best young backs in the AFC, and Wes Welker (92 catches, 1,064 yards, 4 TDs) is on his way to another 100-catch season.

The offensive balance that has helped the Patriots this year will almost certainly be tested, however, as the Texans are in the Top 5 in every major category when it comes to run defense. (Statistically, Houston will be the most complete defense New England will face during the 2012 regular-season, as they are also at or near the top of the list when it comes to pass defense and total defense numbers.) And the takeaways that the Patriots’ defense has feasted on over the course of the 2012 season (+24 right now, easily the best in the league) might not be there against a Houston team that does a good job taking care of the ball -- the Texans are +14, second-best in the AFC behind the Patriots.

In short, while Patriots-Texans doesn’t yet have the same familiar feeling of the blood feud that existed between New England and Indy almost a decade ago, it’s got enough pure football at its heart that the meeting should provide the best matchup of the season for both teams. And make sure you pay close attention Monday, because no matter who wins, you’re going to see them run it back again late next month.

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 5 years ago '07        #2
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97 OP
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Monday Night Football odds finally get interesting in Week 14, with a possible AFC title game preview. The Texans are tough as a road team and are rare underdogs at New England.

The New England Patriots and Houston Texans will both be looking for their seventh straight win when they meet at Gillette Stadium this Monday night.

New England was a 3.5-point home favorite, meaning Houston will be looking for a seventh straight ATS win as an underdog as well here.

New England won its sixth straight game and clinched the AFC East with its 23-16 win over the Miami Dolphins last Sunday. 23 points was a surprisingly low total for the Patriots, who had averaged 47.5 points per game over its previous four games, but it was enough to get the job done against the Dolphins.

Sunday's game marked the first time the total had gone UNDER in a Patriots game in 10 games. This week's game gives the Pats a chance to extend their awesome 19-1 SU mark at home in the month of December over the years.

Houston's incredible season kept chugging along last Sunday with a 24-10 win and cover over the Tennessee Titans. With the win, the Texans clinched a playoff spot and moved to 11-1 SU and 8-4 ATS on the year. They have won 10 of their past 12 road games SU, according to the Week 14 NFL trends report.

With a two-game lead over Denver, New England and Baltimore (all 9-3 SU), Houston is well on its way to clinching the AFC's top seed and home field throughout the playoffs with a strong finish to the regular season. The Texans are 4-2 ATS over their current six-game winning streak.

The OVER is 6-3-1 in Houston's last 10 games and 9-1 in New England's last 10. The total has gone OVER in all three lifetime meetings between these two teams. New England leads the all-time series 2-1 SU and ATS, though Houston won in their last meeting in 2010.

It is hard to go wrong when picking an elite team on a six-game winning streak, and you have that option twice in this game. We lean towards taking the points on Houston. New England is just 2-5 ATS in its last seven home games while Houston is 10-2 SU and 9-3 ATS in its last 12 games on the road.

The Texans also have the better defense and are getting the points, making them the choice in what should be an excellent game and a potential playoff preview. The picks computer at OddsShark.com predicts a 40-37 win for New England.

PICK: Houston +3.5 (courtesy of PickShark.com)
 5 years ago '07        #3
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97 OP
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If Houston is for real, they will win this game. They could lock up the 1 seed with a win.
 12-06-2012, 05:21 PM         #4
Tha Problum 
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At first I kinda "wanted" us to lose and not show our full stuff so when we meet up in the playoffs we could go in there with a bit of a revenge factor in the younger players minds, and since beating an elite team twice in one season would be pretty hard to do. But without gronk and company they won't really know our complete schemes when we play the 2nd time anyway so I'm content with us blowing em out on national television
 5 years ago '09        #5
ReggieA 196 heat pts196
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This is going to be a great game. I think Pats will win 24-21, JJ Watt is going to have a nice game, but Brady will prevail in the 4th. They will use every option they have, double teams, TE, FB, and RB chips to make sure Watt is slowed down as much as possible. I think he will have 2 Sacks, but Pats win.
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Mankins & Jones practicing.
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 Tha Problum said:
At first I kinda "wanted" us to lose and not show our full stuff so when we meet up in the playoffs we could go in there with a bit of a revenge factor in the younger players minds, and since beating an elite team twice in one season would be pretty hard to do. But without gronk and company they won't really know our complete schemes when we play the 2nd time anyway so I'm content with us blowing em out on national television
 5 years ago '07        #8
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97 OP
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Vivian Lake Brady born December 5 shes gonna be an absolute smoke soon enough
 5 years ago '05        #9
txhotboy 
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LET'S GO!!! big test for my Texans.... i can't wait
 12-07-2012, 05:27 PM         #10
Flacco Da Gawd 
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H-Town
 5 years ago '06        #11
down2earth 18 heat pts18
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Gonna be chillin this weekend like when I see all the salty looks on the faces of Pats fans out here in Boston.


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 5 years ago '11        #12
KING JAYY 535 heat pts535
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Patriots by 17
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 aclockworkred71 said:
Only the game is on monday and we will whoop the fu*k out of them.


1 I know it's on Monday. I just consider MNF as an extension of the weekend.
2 You know you dont really believe that last part you said. :bronlmao:


It's on mudafu*kas!


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 Megamind said:
H-Town


Finally decided to join the bandwagon, huh? It's ok... after that spanking we gave you earlier this season it's only right you get a boner every time you see them steel blue horns.
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 aclockworkred71 said:
New here? Never seen a Texan fan, get used to the fact that I don't see them as sh*t.

You will see on Monday though
Yep. Just moved up here a month ago.
 12-07-2012, 05:55 PM         #16
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 down2earth said:


Finally decided to join the bandwagon, huh? It's ok... after that spanking we gave you earlier this season it's only right you get a boner every time you see them steel blue horns.
Y'all are pretty much guaranteed the top seed unless y'all miraculously lose out somehow.. so I need y'all to go ahead and get NE off our heels so we can grab that 2 seed

I'm in SA Town right now so do it for your fellow... honorary Texas n*gga
 5 years ago '06        #17
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 Megamind said:
Y'all are pretty much guaranteed the top seed unless y'all miraculously lose out somehow.. so I need y'all to go ahead and get NE off our heels so we can grab that 2 seed

I'm in SA Town right now so do it for your fellow... honorary Texas n*gga
You already know
 5 years ago '07        #18
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97 OP
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Game day
 5 years ago '04        #19
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I've had an uncontrollable erection all morning
 12-10-2012, 03:24 PM         #20
Tha Problum 
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texans players saying this is the biggest game in franchise history, they might be coming with some heat tonight


but brady never ceases to amaze on national tv
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