Nov 14 - Romney Blames Loss On Obama Promising Gifts To Minorities And Young Voters

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 5 years ago '11        #101
Kadillac87 225 heat pts225 OP
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 Lighto said:
You didn't really read it or are not capable of understanding what happened.







Maybe you should try to understand what you read before posting it.
You do realize you are posting the SECOND executive order Obama signed to close Gitmo after the first way failed


Notice the dates on the updates




From your own link


Plan to close Guantanamo faces opposition from Congress
Updated: Thursday, September 16th, 2010 | By Lukas Pleva


Talk about a rating roller coaster! When we first reviewed President Obama's campaign pledge to close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center in January 2009, we rated it In the Works. By May 2009, we moved it to Stalled, since the White House was facing significant opposition from Congress. In mid-October, it went back to In the Works, as Congress allowed some detainees to be temporarily moved to the United States for prosecution. That rating remained unchanged after our last update in January 2010.

We're well into the second year of Obama's administration, so we wanted to see whether things had changed since January.

First, however, a quick note. We've gotten a ton of e-mails from readers urging us to rate this Promise Broken. Obama promised to close the detention center within a year of taking office, the argument goes, and he has not done that. As we pointed out in our last update, however, he made that statement after taking office, not during the campaign. The Obameter only tracks promises that the President made on the campaign trail, when there was no such self-imposed deadline.

That said, let's look at how things have been unfolding.

In December 2009, the administration announced that it would ask Congress to appropriate money to purchase the Thomson Correctional Center in northwest Illinois to house Gitmo detainees. The plan took a blow, however, in May 2010, when the House Armed Services Committee inserted language into the 2011 defense bill which specifically prohibits the use of funds to purchase or modify any U.S. facility for Gitmo prisoners. The measure was adopted by the full House on May 28, 2010 in a 282-131 vote. The Senate Armed Services Committee adopted a similar proposal on May 28, 2010. The two proposals have yet to become law, however. In June, a.ssistant Attorney General Ronald Weich announced that the administration plans to go ahead with the purchase of the facility for regular domestic federal prisoners.

Even more telling, however, are statements that the House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md, made in July 2010. Talking about closing Guantanamo, Hoyer said that "that's not an issue being discussed very broadly. I think that you're not going to see it discussed very broadly in the near term."

Finally, in May 2010 the Guantanamo Review Task Force submitted a report to Congress, which includes recommendations on how to proceed with each of the detainees. But House Armed Services Chairman Ike Skelton, a Missouri Democrat, said that Guantanamo is not at the top of his priority list. "A war is going on. That"s my concern." Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chairman Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., said that moving prisoners from Gitmo to Illinois is "off the radar screen."

The White House maintains that President Obama is committed to closing Guantanamo, but several high-ranking lawmakers make it clear that this is unlikely to happen anytime soon. As always, we'll keep our eyes open, but for now, we are changing the rating to Stalled.

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Against obstacles, Obama still works toward closure
Updated: Wednesday, January 13th, 2010 | By Angie Drobnic Holan


After the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound jet on Christmas Day, conservatives renewed calls for Obama to abandon his plans to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

"Guantanamo remains the proper place for holding terrorists, especially those who may not be able to be detained as securely in a third country," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, the Republican Senate leader.

After the attack, Obama halted transfers of detainees to Yemen, the country where the alleged bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, may have received instructions on how to blow up the aircraft. But White House officials said Obama remains committed to closing the facility, and the plan to close the prison seem to keep moving forward, slowly.

The Obama administration has identified a prison in Thomson, Ill., that it hopes to acquire and renovate for detainees now at the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba, and officials are working out details for funding the plan. The Senate seems amenable to the idea; in November, the Senate rejected a measure to restrict funds for the facility.

Obama said after the inauguration that he hoped to close Guantanamo within one year, and administration officials admit they won't make that deadline. During the campaign, Obama gave himself no such deadline, and we're judging him here on his campaign promises. He said he would close Guantanamo Bay, and concrete steps are being taken to do so. The promise remains In the Works.

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Congress balks at Obama's plan
Updated: Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 | By Catharine Richert


President Barack Obama's plan to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has run into significant opposition, most notably from members of his own party who stripped millions of dollars to shutter the facility from a war funding bill.

Closing the prison has been one of Obama's signature issues since he was a candidate. On January 20, 2009, the day he was sworn in, he directed prosecutors to file a motion to suspend legal proceedings against the suspected terrorists held at the facility. Two days later, the administration issued an executive order to review the disposition of the prisoners and ordered that the facility be shut down within a year.

For weeks, Republicans have opposed Obama's plan, voicing concern that the administration has not said what will happen to the approximately 240 detainees housed at the center.

"The president, unwisely, in my view, announced an arbitrary timeline for closing Guantanamo of next January without a plan to deal with the terrorists who are incarcerated down there," said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell.

House Democrats have similar concerns; they refused to include the $80 million requested by the administration to close the facility in the war spending bill. Senate Democrats initially included the money in their $91.3 billion version of the measure, but then stripped it out by a 90-6 vote on May 20.

"This is neither the time nor the bill to deal with this," said Democratic leader Harry Reid. "Democrats under no circumstances will move forward without a comprehensive, responsible plan from the president," though Reid stressed that he still believes closing the facility is a good idea.

Just five months ago, Reid had softer words for Obama's executive order, saying that, at first blush, it appeared "to lay out a responsible and careful path that maintains every effective tool needed to defeat terrorists. In fact, I am convinced these changes will strengthen and enhance our counterterrorism efforts."

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the administration still aims to follow the executive order and seal off the facility within a year. Meanwhile, Obama plans to offer more details on his strategy for dealing with the prisoners in speech on May 21.

Obama's efforts to close down Guantanamo Bay are not dead, but they have clearly reached a roadblock. Based on these latest actions, we're moving the Obameter to Stalled and will be watching how it develops over the next few months.

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Executive Order to close Gitmo
Updated: Thursday, January 22nd, 2009 | By Robert Farley


On his second full day in office, President Obama issued an executive order to review the disposition of prisoners being held at the naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and ordered that the detention facility be closed within a year.

According to the administration, closure of the facility is the ultimate goal. The order establishes a review process with the goal of disposing of the detainees before closing the facility.

According to the White House, "The Order sets up an immediate review to determine whether it is possible to transfer detainees to third countries, consistent with national security. If transfer is not approved, a second review will determine whether prosecution is possible and in what forum. The preference is for prosecution in Article III courts or under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), but military commissions, perhaps with revised authorities, would remain an option. If there are detainees who cannot be transferred or prosecuted, the review will examine the lawful options for dealing with them. The Attorney General will coordinate the review and the Secretaries of Defense, State, and Homeland Security as well as the DNI and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will participate."

The order also requires that conditions of confinement at Guantanamo, until its closure, comply with the Geneva Conventions.

"The message that we are sending the world is that the United States intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism and we are going to do so vigilantly and we are going to do so effectively and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals," Obama said after signing the order.

The executive order clearly comports with Obama's campaign pledge to close Gitmo, and now sets the timeline for one year. But there is still work to be done, and until the detention center actually closes, we'll keep the status at In the Works.

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Too easy


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 5 years ago '05        #102
Hydroman 16 heat pts16
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@ people actually believing that the majority of people voting for Obama are looking for govt handouts.

Maybe if repubs would've embraced "minorities" instead of trying to suppress their vote, they would've stood a chance. These folks actually thought they'd win by limiting voting hours in democratic counties and expanding voting hours in republican counties. That's just dirty.
 5 years ago '11        #103
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He let those Racists Gas him up




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 5 years ago '09        #104
messy marv stan 4530 heat pts4530
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obama and romney dont really believe the propaganda they say
when the tv cameras are off its like the wwf where the 2 are actually friends
 5 years ago '08        #105
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What we getting? Can't believe I didn't hear about presents, I would've voted for the n*gga.
 5 years ago '09        #106
Auron 2 heat pts
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 ill 800 said:
the average american will find one issue and vote on it...that damn paul ryan aint taking my ss...or that obama aint taking away my guns...

you know how this process works. he got a ton of votes by letting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS get their citizenship. he got tons of votes from legalizing gay marriage. you know it, stop fronting. all the moves made are heavily researched and calculated
Obama said he was going to let the STATES decide whether to legalize gay marriage or not Turn off the fu*king Hannity.
 5 years ago '07        #107
Damagegadget 492 heat pts492
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see Dave Chappelle episode "Minorities" in the News
 5 years ago '04        #108
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"There’s only one Republican that’s ever defeated a sitting Democratic incumbent president, one"
 11-15-2012, 03:25 PM         #109
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Republicans in denial. It's not me, it's you-attitude.

Let them continue to drown themselves. They'll be extinct within the next generation or so.
 5 years ago '06        #110
Convict 5 heat pts
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He's right, but the difference is we all get to foot the bill for Obama playing Santa
 5 years ago '07        #111
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 Convict said:
He's right, but the difference is we all get to foot the bill for Obama playing Santa
Turn off the Rush Limbaugh, your stupid showing
 5 years ago '11        #112
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 Convict said:
He's right, but the difference is we all get to foot the bill for Obama playing Santa
You say this as if the majority of Americans wasn't footing the bill for tax cuts on the wealthy
 5 years ago '11        #113
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I actually agree that a lot of did vote for Obama because they want free stuff and because they hate whitey. But Romney lost because of his religious cult following saying stupid sh*t....and because he's white. It's a double standard
 11-15-2012, 04:38 PM         #114
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 GetuOne said:
I actually agree that a lot of did vote for Obama because they want free stuff and because they hate whitey. But Romney lost because of his religious cult following saying stupid sh*t....and because he's white. It's a double standard
A majority of the Obama supporters are white..........dude just STFU......
 5 years ago '09        #115
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 Dos-effect said:
A majority of the Obama supporters are white..........dude just STFU......
Lol that douche is a classic race baiter, I have no idea why he is on a Hip-Hop website if he despises African Americans.
 5 years ago '04        #116
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I blame people like this for articles like this


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such ignorance
 5 years ago '09        #117
messy marv stan 4530 heat pts4530
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voting doesnt make a difference when all we got is this 2 party corporate sponsored system
 5 years ago '07        #118
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It's true Americans like handouts
 11-16-2012, 11:19 PM         #119
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 Billdotel said:
It's true Americans like handouts
No Americans hate racist, inconsiderate, rich as*holes who cant even manage to seem sincere enough to make people believe that they give 2/5ths of a sh*t about them.
 5 years ago '07        #120
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 Dos-effect said:
No Americans hate racist, inconsiderate, rich as*holes who cant even manage to seem sincere enough to make people believe that they give 2/5ths of a sh*t about them.
Mitt Romney was a racist? Is he the same rich inconsiderate as*hole who donated more than Obama to charity?


I didn't vote for the guy and didn't like him as a candidate but some of the stuff you people on here regurgitate is fu*king hilarious.
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